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Perfect.

Avoid reasoned discussion and go straight for a sensationalized meme.

You should work for Fox. ;)



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Also everything you posted is just American exceptionalist platitudes there's not really anything to discuss.
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A 1-Year-Old Boy Had a Court Appearance Before an Immigration Judge in Phoenix

http://time.com/5332740/immigration-judge-boy/



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a news story regarding a woman who can't afford an ambulance (something that is a regular occurrence in cancer usa) is a "sensationalized meme".


You really think that an unsubstantiated tweet that mentions no names, dates or sources is a "news story"?

It claims "a woman" "in Boston" said this and comes from "that.anticap.ml" conveniantly on July 4th.

You love to talk about American propoganda, but when it's telling the story you want to hear you lap it up like a kitten under a jersey cow.

The US health system sucks. I'm sure many people refuse treatment because they can't afford the bill. This is terrible and needs to be fixed, but yes - that is absolutely nothing but a sensationalized meme.

Perhaps it's cherry-picked from real events, perhaps it's 100% fabricated. With that little information who could tell?

I would like to agree with you on some of these issues, but bullshit from "anticap" smells no different to bullshit from the US media.


A 1-Year-Old Boy Had a Court Appearance Before an Immigration Judge in Phoenix


Yes the recent changes in immigration policy are terrible, and even people working in the immigration courts agree that the system is in crisis. John Oliver did a good piece on it a month or two ago.

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Sadly, for all its flaws, I think the horrible corrupt murderous US system is still one of the best that humanity has ever come up with

The guys who wrote the US constitution were having a REAL go at being decent human beings, and arguably did a better job than anyone else in history.

"reasoned discussion"


LOL, no those quotes are opinion. A discussion requires two or more parties reasonably exchanging ideas about an issue.

Any other terms you are unsure about?
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Also everything you posted is just American exceptionalist platitudes there's not really anything to discuss.

Platitudes, perhaps - they are more likely to be heeded than rampant mud-slinging, but "exceptionalist"?

I believe listing American atrocities along with those from other nations all over the world and stating that they are all unacceptable is in no way "exceptionalist". Attempting to infer that these crimes are somehow exceptional because they have been committed by Americans is.

The people who are in the best position to make a difference about these things are Americans. If you want to be ignored, just keep hurling insults.

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Also everything you posted is just American exceptionalist platitudes there's not really anything to discuss.

Platitudes, perhaps - they are more likely to be heeded than rampant mud-slinging, but "exceptionalist"?

I believe listing American atrocities along with those from other nations all over the world and stating that they are all unacceptable is in no way "exceptionalist". Attempting to infer that these crimes are somehow exceptional because they have been committed by Americans is.

The people who are in the best position to make a difference about these things are Americans. If you want to be ignored, just keep hurling insults.



It's all the bullshit about how sure, America might objectively and demonstrably be a bloodthirsty empire that has wrought more carnage and suffering on the world than any state before it, but, heck, those Founding Fathers sure were trying their best and sure were great guys (ignore the slavery and native genocide lol), and we are just such a plucky country, well heck, everyone makes mistakes sometimes right guys? 1 million dead Iraqis...just a little mistake, oops! The actual country that did this is fine though. Oh Libya has gone from being a stable country and the wealthiest in Africa to having open air slave markets after the American invasion, haha oops! Oh no all these orphaned children at the border, haha oops, we tried our best though haha. Oops another person dead from lack of insurance, ah heck come on guys haha we're really trying hard!!! That last one is probably fake news because it's not from CNN btw lol!

You wouldn't talk about a country like Russia or China the same way
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a news story regarding a woman who can't afford an ambulance (something that is a regular occurrence in cancer usa) is a "sensationalized meme".

You really think that an unsubstantiated tweet that mentions no names, dates or sources is a "news story"?

It claims "a woman" "in Boston" said this and comes from "that.anticap.ml" conveniantly on July 4th.

You love to talk about American propoganda, but when it's telling the story you want to hear you lap it up like a kitten under a jersey cow.

The US health system sucks. I'm sure many people refuse treatment because they can't afford the bill. This is terrible and needs to be fixed, but yes - that is absolutely nothing but a sensationalized meme.

Perhaps it's cherry-picked from real events, perhaps it's 100% fabricated. With that little information who could tell?

I would like to agree with you on some of these issues, but bullshit from "anticap" smells no different to bullshit from the US media.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/injured-woman-no-ambulance-too-expensive_us_5b3bda49e4b09e4a8b283583

it's legit news story . it's easy to believe because it's america where this happens all the time. meanwhile your retarded ass believes north koreans worship unicorns and some other dumbass shit  fabricated by foxnews.

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Huffington post is liberal propaganda.
war2 > war3

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Sadly, for all its flaws, I think the horrible corrupt murderous US system is still one of the best that humanity has ever come up with

The guys who wrote the US constitution were having a REAL go at being decent human beings, and arguably did a better job than anyone else in history.

"reasoned discussion"


LOL, no those quotes are opinion. A discussion requires two or more parties reasonably exchanging ideas about an issue.

Any other terms you are unsure about?


it's you trying to inject your retard opinions in an attempt to involve yourself in a "reasonable discussion". it's an atrocious attempt at trying to defend your aids riddled bullshit borderline third world country.

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Also everything you posted is just American exceptionalist platitudes there's not really anything to discuss.

Platitudes, perhaps - they are more likely to be heeded than rampant mud-slinging, but "exceptionalist"?

I believe listing American atrocities along with those from other nations all over the world and stating that they are all unacceptable is in no way "exceptionalist". Attempting to infer that these crimes are somehow exceptional because they have been committed by Americans is.

The people who are in the best position to make a difference about these things are Americans. If you want to be ignored, just keep hurling insults.



It's all the bullshit about how sure, America might objectively and demonstrably be a bloodthirsty empire that has wrought more carnage and suffering on the world than any state before it, but, heck, those Founding Fathers sure were trying their best and sure were great guys (ignore the slavery and native genocide lol),

Wasn't slavery abolished? Isn't that the point? The native genocide was committed but the european settlers who originally invaded north america? The question marks are genuine. I'm definitely not an expert on American history so I may have some thing wrong idk.

I thought the US was founded after the civil war, and the anti-slavery side won it. When they founded their new nation the "founding fathers" wrote a constitution for it that was based on freedom and equality for all. This is a good base for the laws of a nation.

and we are just such a plucky country, well heck, everyone makes mistakes sometimes right guys? 1 million dead Iraqis...just a little mistake, oops!


Indeed the US activities in Iraq is one of the many issues that I would like Americans to think about and consider what their founding fathers would make of this type of behavior.

The oil fuelled crimes are appalling. Do you know why the recent US invasion of Iraq took place? The western oil-money power mongers were angry that their puppet leader Saddam Hussein had stopped following orders. Hussein was put into power in 1979 by the west, mainly to counteract the radical religious leader in Iran, the Ayatollah Khomeini. The next year the Iran-Iraq war started in which Iraq was heavily backed by the US.

Saddam was their boy, make no mistake, and when he stopped playing ball they were so absolutely furious that they invaded Iraq. Yes, that was genocide organised by oil money in the US and UK. IMHO the whole business is a series of disgusting and appalling war crimes.

If you ar interested in the real story of oil in the middle east Lawrence of Arabia is an interesting place to start. Then look into how British Petroleum (BP) was founded.... they pretty much traded the arabs beads and blankets for oil rights. That is what its all about.

But George Washington was not involved in any of these crimes, and IMHO the US constitution remains one of the best documents of it's type in the world.

The actual country that did this is fine though. Oh Libya has gone from being a stable country and the wealthiest in Africa to having open air slave markets after the American invasion, haha oops! Oh no all these orphaned children at the border, haha oops, we tried our best though haha. Oops another person dead from lack of insurance, ah heck come on guys haha we're really trying hard!!! That last one is probably fake news because it's not from CNN btw lol!

Yeah that stuff is terrible. Someone should do something about it. Someone should make people think about what is being done in the name of their nation. How would you suggest doing that?

You wouldn't talk about a country like Russia or China the same way

This thread isn't about Russia or China, but if I was talking about them then you're absolutely right, I would say different things because they are different countries, but I would still have the same intent, which is to get people to think about and be interested in the actions that their country undertakes.

I believe very few people actually commit terrible acts in that knowledge, mostly they think they are doing the right thing. Raise your children better.

Making people aware and challenging them to think is the only way forward.


https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/injured-woman-no-ambulance-too-expensive_us_5b3bda49e4b09e4a8b283583

it's legit news story . it's easy to believe because it's america where this happens all the time. meanwhile your retarded ass believes north koreans worship unicorns and some other dumbass shit  fabricated by foxnews.

Congrats on providing a better source for your story that the sensationalized meme. I'm still not sure how it relates to anything I posted. The US health care system is bad and needs fixing - no argument there.

it's you trying to inject your retard opinions in an attempt to involve yourself in a "reasonable discussion". it's an atrocious attempt at trying to defend your aids riddled bullshit borderline third world country.

Huh? Does Australia have high HIV rates? If that's the case I wasn't aware. Is that also a result of capitalism? Please share some more of your wisdom....  :blank:

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>Congrats on providing a better source for your story that the sensationalized meme. I'm still not sure how it relates to anything I posted. The US health care system is bad and needs fixing - no argument there.

it relates because you tried calling it fake news and i owned you, stfu retard.


>Huh? Does Australia have high HIV rates? If that's the case I wasn't aware. Is that also a result of capitalism? Please share some more of your wisdom....

oh suddenly you're australian now after paragraphs of liberal poop defending amerikkka and getting owned about it.

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>Congrats on providing a better source for your story that the sensationalized meme. I'm still not sure how it relates to anything I posted. The US health care system is bad and needs fixing - no argument there.

it relates because you tried calling it fake news and i owned you, stfu retard.

LMAO now you have invented a fake victory for yourself? Dude that is so sad

You have never heard me say "Fake News" because I don't use sensationalized media catch-phrases. Here is what I said:

Perhaps it's cherry-picked from real events, perhaps it's 100% fabricated. With that little information who could tell?

My first suggestion was totally correct - it's cherry-picked from real events. I'm pretty sure the real story was about the poor woman having her leg injured, not about people making sensationalized memes out of what she said when she was in shock.


>Huh? Does Australia have high HIV rates? If that's the case I wasn't aware. Is that also a result of capitalism? Please share some more of your wisdom....

oh suddenly you're australian now after paragraphs of liberal poop defending amerikkka and getting owned about it.

Haha well that explains a lot. You're calling my opinions "retarded" without even reading them.

I don't actually know where you're from, but have you actually read your country's constitution?

I can tell you that Australia's constitution is an absolute joke. It's a document written by lawyers for lawyers and is almost entirely concerned with who owns what and how much they can charge people for it. There are absolutely NO RIGHTS AT ALL in the Australian constitution for our citizens. The only thing in the entire document that in any way approximates a human right is a clause stating that a man can not be charged a higher price for something just because he comes from a different state. I kid you not. From your socialist standpoint it is a possibly one of the most evil documents on earth.

Australians have no rights. It is illegal to murder someone, but nobody actually has the right to live. I'm not an expert but I think you will find that in most places, when you look into it, things are fairly similar.


This is why you can't take part in a rational discussion. Congrats on demonstrating how irrellivent your opinion is.

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your ownage is full on display there's nothing "fake" about my victory. bitch. you lost when you start regurgitating shit you learned in high school history class, jajaja ;D

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The guys who wrote the US constitution were having a REAL go at being decent human beings, and arguably did a better job than anyone else in history.
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reminder of this dumbfucks idea of "reasoned discussion" LOOOOOL
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