vote to follow blizzard balance by default

[Pandaprewmaster325]

What the heck? An entire saga started during my sleep hey people wait for me XD , and yes I think making the experience more casual is better , take a look at arena shooters and you will see that extreme hardcore crap doesn't help the game in the long run ,

Also , think about it this way humans put in more effort they full upgrade they micro their mages to cast slow on ogre mages they do all. That it takes yet still gets stomped by orcs , human player puts in more effort and more output than orc who can just cast bloodlust and will win how the heck is this fair? Also isn't BL bugged? Lol very "fair" , this isn't positive for the game and I said before its for the good of the game.

Open your minds for change not every Change is positive , and not always sticking to the same place is positive by refusing change others make better products , also pros? Dude you know what pros are? A minority , listening to pros should be the last thing devs do they don't represent us the majority the "normies" the "casuals" , things at high level differ from low or mid level understand this.

[Oragorn]

Who know if u8 dont use footman level 6 and he dint acces mpq picture to still make it appear level 5 on his game, or even ballista level3, or maybe a canon tower with 800 defense that never broke and stay at 1 HP even after a blizzard who know??!...It dont matter what he can or cant do, we dont know, and we should not have to ask ourself the question.

Facts, please. Otherwise, this is just empty chatter from a windbag.

Changing the color of your units because you wanna see better than your opponnent is clearly affecting the game, putting name on your units and being able to remember wich units has getting damage because of those names is clearly affecting the game..

Nonsense. Any idiot can change the color and names. If you suddenly can't for some mental reasons, you can always ask knowledgeable people about it (about 95% of people on the server). It's very easy to do.
All programs and utilities for this, by the way, are widely available on our website in the "download" tab.

And yes, the "benefits" of this are so ridiculous that it's surprising that you use this as an argument. Other than replacing text, pictures, sounds, and the like, it's impossible to achieve more.

[RagneR]

No, Equinox is not talking nonsense, but quite reasonable things.

[RagneR]

All these listed things that he named really give almost nothing. Only from the degree of genius, or rather, the ability to find a habit of a micro advantage through memory, can you get an advantage. But you can. There is no doubt that u8 is not a stupid player. But you can't blame him, because he never said anything about it, and probably didn't even think of it. Although who knows. The point is that if it weren't for Equinox's honor, Eq could have already done all this with his mind, because in my understanding, he is a genius in the game, because he understands how it all works. Not as much as Enshein, but close.

[RagneR]

It is not allowed that people who are not part of the administration have the right to interfere with a file that could theoretically bring an advantage.

U8 has proven the community's trust in him.
And he is an admin. I don't know if he is now, but he was.
I remember that period.
I do not judge him out loud. But I have suspicions about him. I had them then, but now I have nothing.

Since he is an admin, he has trust, and at that time these changes really did not give a big advantage. And you can't judge him for this without evidence.
But it may happen that I am a brilliant stream sniper and cheater, an admin, no one will ever know who I am until I say so myself.

[Szwagier]

I am not admin, never was and I dont want to fight people like equinox, waste of time, I enjoy playing game

you cant have diffrent game cause game will crash
EXAMPLE:
IF I edit my songs, will be game diffrent for you? NO
IF I edit AI, how it works, will be game for you diffrent? YES and what will game do? I will split game, to people who have same AI, and people who got diffrent,
that mean is cheat? No cause my AI want make barrack, your AI want make lumber mill

w2 got random dmg, sc got it perfect there is info 6 dmg will be 6 dmg - armor
just luck

[Pandaprewmaster325]

So how do you prove one is editing mpq to gain advantage? You do know you can't mess with unit stats cuz that will cause crash (happened to me in wc3) but since both 3 and 2 use mpq can replace models and will probably not cause crash , I heard somewhere you can do a fog of war bug or cheat using mpq but thats for wc3 not for 2.

And what would motivate one to cheat?? In this junk of a game?? That's freaking sad man...

[RagneR]

I have a feeling that there is a cheat in this game that can control enemy units. Why did I think that this is possible? There are 2 reasons for this. My peons, given my vast experience in games and professional form, at the time when I made this conclusion, I can confidently trust myself in the past and say that my peons during a tower rush retreat back, or to the side, in any direction, but not in the direction where I click. That is, as a pro, I know where my peons need to go. I click in this direction. But my no less professional opponent knows where they should not go. Therefore, this opponent with a cheat, having the ability to control my units, manually or automatically, takes my units away from there.
Once again.
Situation: I attack the opponent's base with towers and peons. At the moment where I need to either attack a peon, or repair my tower, or attack an enemy, my peons don't just move on their own, they move on the exact opposite order.
I press attack, and they retreat. You can't cancel the move button in any way. They can't go back if you pressed forward.
I saw a cross on the screen, that is, my click was counted, but they just retreat back, although there was no click back. I reviewed my game with u8 and it was like that there.

Second example. A peon can fight back only when he is without a task. That is, he does not run. And does not attack. He must only stand. But when playing with u8, my peon always responds to his attack. My peon cannot fight back WHILE HE IS RUNNING. HE CANNOT. UNTIL HE STOPS. But he does it. This is a cheat. And it exists. This is 100%.

The second reason why I can think that it is possible from the technical part is because there is an ogre mod that allows all this for two or more players. That is, more than two players can control the same "player".

[RagneR]

All I had to do was remember the game with u8 and I found irrefutable proof that it exists. He can turn it off and go into hiding. But if I wanted, I could find any video of him and capture his cheating trick where the enemy peon responds to his action while he is in the middle of a move or an enemy tower attack.

[RagneR]

Unfortunately. What a pity. U8, I know your secret.

[RagneR]

I get really annoyed when my units are controlled by another opponent. He's not the only one.

[pianolarva]

I'll join the unnecessary debate.

Rag: good point, but any game evolves and grows, even if a group doesn't like it. You can play classic as a game variant.

Even if the remaster got super popular and people came over here saying "What are you doing playing this ancient version?", I'd reply with "What are you doing playing a custom mod?". As for the people that are saying yes because it's "official", you could have done the same changes some months ago but you didn't, and now that Blizz does it you all agree it's good? The same thing, but if Blizz says it, then it's a good idea. These are the people in charge over here?

[Pandaprewmaster325]

Man are you sure you are remembering right.

Can't take human memory for 100% proof especially if said incident happened years ago.

You will need to replicate this yourself and show us that its possible.

I think U8 gets too much flak for nothing , if there is proof and actual video , data etc evidence bring it.

If anything it sounds like to me (an outsider)that you guys have some sort of animosity between each other leading you to make such accusations but hey I may not have the full picture.

[Oragorn]

Equinoks! Log out and get out of Ragner's account!

[RagneR]

That's why I want the anti-cheat to work. Because all this time there is a player who has been using a real cheat for a long time, which is not detected by newbies and average players. Only an idiot will not notice it. He can notice that something is wrong, but he will not understand what exactly. I know what exactly. And there is no excuse for this. It is a cheat that is impossible to prove at the moment. But I can. It only works with him and some other players.