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War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« on: November 29, 2024, 06:31:56 AM »
- So there it was a discussion between former Admins, Tupac & Babyshark. War2 USA multiplayer server & website were deleted

- If this situation is not ever fixed up, the only Warcraft 2 communities left will be:
War2 Russian/International (Combat Edition),
GOG server being pretty much played by Trogallart + some of his viewers on weekends &
War2 Remaster server

So apparently the future is War2Combat.

 
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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2024, 10:02:12 PM »
That was apparent decades ago.  Welcome to reality.
Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

^---- Dellam doesnt hack!  See, even by his own admission, no hack!!  LMFAO.

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2024, 12:19:34 AM »
I have decided to make a statement since there have been a lot of questions.

First of all, all I have towards Tupac is gratitude for all he did for me and for Warcraft 2 players. Both of us put incredible amounts of time and energy into creating a place for W2 players to enjoy themselves playing the best game ever. We had 6 fantastic years of fun times and lost count of how many new players tried out Warcraft 2 over that time, although, as life goes, the majority moved on to other things. No one is perfect, not him or me, but I saw immense dedication and hard work, respectful discourse, concern for human beings, and a strong desire to protect his server's players and give them the best playing experience possible, paying for upgraded hardware for a very well-functioning and stable server. He was always available for tech support and helped many, many people with computer issues of all kinds. He spent lot of hard-earned money for the maintenance of War2USA across those 6 years.

That being said, Tupac has my full 100% support to close War2USA for any reason, as no one is entitled to a man's money and time, except maybe his own real life family. A man has a right to do what he wants with his time and money, and I thank Tupac times a million, for the incredible 6 years of good times we had because of his hard work and how selflessly he gave of himself to everyone who wanted to play W2.

With the Warcraft 2 Remastered adding a 4th Warcraft 2 server to the 3 previously in existence, the small player base the game had was spread too thin. It became harder to get games going since many or most of us, including Tupac and myself, purchased the W2 Remaster edition to experience it. Tupac wanted to shut down USA when news of a Remaster came out and wanted us all to go play at Remaster, but after realizing Remaster was sorely lacking, was willing to keep it going out of love for the community he'd created a private W2 playground for. Once the remaster was released and the population was split again, I realized he was right and that USA was no longer sustainable.

Neither I nor him wanted to fight the new tide (of darkness lol) of a significantly reduced player base because of the release of a new server.

We each may have other personal reasons on top of the obvious one, such as wanting to put more time into real life things than video games, and the truth is, running a server and leading a community and keeping it energized and vibrant and active takes a lot of effort and time.

I am so happy for having had the War2USA experience and for all the people I met and the great games that were had.

If there are hard feelings from anyone towards Tupac or myself over the closure of USA, it's very understandable. There have been some feelings of betrayal expressed, and I will say that I am very sorry to those who felt that, and that it was never in my heart to cause those kinds of feelings (ie. by me logging on to ru while pondering the future of Warcraft 2). Whether he perceives it or not, I am loyal to Tupac and will defend him based on my own experience with him. That's not to say I endorse his every word and action, ofc not, but the person I experienced is a caring, devoted, hard-working, friendly, fun-loving individual and employed family man. Those who have experienced another side of him have surely provoked him first. Healthy men also have a lot of fight in them and can be like mother bears when their cubs are threatened. If I'm alive 20 years from now I'll still remember Tupac as someone who made my life better and who helped a lot of people.

People are human and everyone is going through their own personal things that they usually keep to themselves.

A number of people who were real dicks to people on W2 wrote on forum later about how bad their life is, whether is was being homeless or jobless or having cancer or other hardships. We never know what people are going through, which is why I've been a proponent of kindness and grace, because humanity sure needs it.

For people who still want to play Warcraft 2, there are only less-than-ideal options, though.

GOG: broken garbage, missing basic features
RU: most people have had very negative, unenjoyable past experiences, although I heard from ru admin team that they are wanting to improve conditions (esp. for new players)
Remaster: great UC and gameplay sort of works, but missing basic features

(USA: population split with remaster, no longer an option)

I know there are some who are thinking "Why are you posting here, retard bitch, go f*@#ing die!"

I'm saving you the trouble of replying as I have your petitions on file. We'll give you a call if I choose to go with your application.  :))

As for me, my W2 heart is still a prisoner of the past. No W2 experience can top the memories and gaming quality in terms of enjoyability for me personally from USA server's peak. Which is why I'm inclined to go down with the ship.

Although I have been contacted by very respectful and kind ambassador of RU admin team telling me RU is better than it was and that they want to provide a user-friendly experience including for new players and I should come lead it.


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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2024, 02:09:53 PM »
Part of what makes RU fun for the player base is the toxic trash talking and trolling everyone does here. Thats part of the culture.
The USA player base will have to look for alternatives if they don’t like it.
war2 > war3

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2024, 05:08:28 PM »


You may be proud of your "culture", but there are many people who like Warcraft 2 that don't support this kind of vile talk.

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2024, 05:33:58 PM »
Part of what makes RU fun for the player base is the toxic trash talking and trolling everyone does here. Thats part of the culture.
The USA player base will have to look for alternatives if they don’t like it.

you would have a very toxic sense of humor, if not the same people that actually enjoy that type of behavior.

The very first response, like from this Lance person, which I know nothing about except that he posts around sometimes, was just a random negative comment from a random cretin.

The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

Its obviously going to get people away from the game, if the same cretins that surround the game are having that type of attitude over and over and over again, in completely random situations. It's just repelent for a ton of people.

When I firstly played first few games on War2 russian server, i already got either banned by this "Selenity" player in server or few others trashtalking me or calling me a hacker by using mage-invisibility.

For like 2-3 years I was absent to play War2 multiplayer on russia because these same type of dudes, like the u8 person that is well known around. Its very obvious to me that these people don't make any favor to grow war2 popularity aside from increasing their own egos.

At least, in War2USA I wasn't aware to face some big cretin that was just there to feed his ego.

Be that as it may, it happens in other games as well, even with high popularity. But for the most casuals, it's of course not making any favor to the game. Even more if its on a "New game" like War2 remaster.

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2024, 05:42:12 PM »
Part of what makes RU fun for the player base is the toxic trash talking and trolling everyone does here. Thats part of the culture.
The USA player base will have to look for alternatives if they don’t like it.

you would have a very toxic sense of humor, if not the same people that actually enjoy that type of behavior.

The very first response, like from this Lance person, which I know nothing about except that he posts around sometimes, was just a random negative comment from a random cretin.

The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

Its obviously going to get people away from the game, if the same cretins that surround the game are having that type of attitude over and over and over again, in completely random situations. It's just repelent for a ton of people.

When I firstly played first few games on War2 russian server, i already got either banned by this "Selenity" player in server or few others trashtalking me or calling me a hacker by using mage-invisibility.

For like 2-3 years I was absent to play War2 multiplayer on russia because these same type of dudes, like the u8 person that is well known around. Its very obvious to me that these people don't make any favor to grow war2 popularity aside from increasing their own egos.

At least, in War2USA I wasn't aware to face some big cretin that was just there to feed his ego.

Be that as it may, it happens in other games as well, even with high popularity. But for the most casuals, it's of course not making any favor to the game. Even more if its on a "New game" like War2 remaster.

Don’t play on RU if you don’t like it.
We aren’t changing the culture to accommodate the War2USA community.
war2 > war3

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2024, 05:49:23 PM »


You may be proud of your "culture", but there are many people who like Warcraft 2 that don't support this kind of vile talk.

We offered you a lot of things 6 years ago when Blid and Moustopher were still active to accommodate your concerns.
You and Tupac went and decided to start your own community which is your right to do.

You don't get to come back to RU after it didn't work out and make demands or anything of that sort.
You and your player base are welcome to log into the server and play but RU won't make any changes to the way things are run today.
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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2024, 07:12:34 PM »
Hahahaha.  Fuckin van,  always being an idiot.  It's easier to just kick him from games than it is to let him play.  It's your fault for being in the same game as that moron.
Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

^---- Dellam doesnt hack!  See, even by his own admission, no hack!!  LMFAO.

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2024, 07:21:29 PM »
Part of what makes RU fun for the player base is the toxic trash talking and trolling everyone does here. Thats part of the culture.
The USA player base will have to look for alternatives if they don’t like it.

you would have a very toxic sense of humor, if not the same people that actually enjoy that type of behavior.

The very first response, like from this Lance person, which I know nothing about except that he posts around sometimes, was just a random negative comment from a random cretin.

The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

Its obviously going to get people away from the game, if the same cretins that surround the game are having that type of attitude over and over and over again, in completely random situations. It's just repelent for a ton of people.

When I firstly played first few games on War2 russian server, i already got either banned by this "Selenity" player in server or few others trashtalking me or calling me a hacker by using mage-invisibility.

For like 2-3 years I was absent to play War2 multiplayer on russia because these same type of dudes, like the u8 person that is well known around. Its very obvious to me that these people don't make any favor to grow war2 popularity aside from increasing their own egos.

At least, in War2USA I wasn't aware to face some big cretin that was just there to feed his ego.

Be that as it may, it happens in other games as well, even with high popularity. But for the most casuals, it's of course not making any favor to the game. Even more if its on a "New game" like War2 remaster.


Well I find it fun to have some lighthearted toxicity at times , in my opinion the most memorable moments are those with toxic idiots who take MP too seriously , that is if too much toxicity is hurled around it becomes a negative that pushes away potential players of course I miss some of that game ranger toxicity trash talking in lobbies XD or making racist jokes with my friend from egypt  , thus we should try to balance things out too much moderation and it becomes BS where you fear saying anything will be a ban thats not a good environment , too much lack of moderation isn't good either , as long as insults are lighthearted and none have a problem I don't see an issue , if racism gets too much out of hand then yup time for mods to step In.

And oh yeah I hate the getting kicked out of lobbies for being new that must be erased from online play this is the sort of stuff that are harmful , its an interesting topic to discuss in how to ensure a healthy community with human interaction that doesn't feel too boring or generic while keeping the community in line would have to try out the war2 online experience to finalize my judgment all im saying here is built on my past experiences with game ranger , voobly , counter strike and more.
Today warcraft is not the warcraft it used to be , lets stick to what made warcraft warcraft! ORCS AND HUMANS

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2024, 08:08:53 PM »
i welcome all users to the server! there is a /squelch and lobby boot and observer in game and boot observer in game feature.

if you dont want to engage with certain people, there are ways to do it.

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2024, 04:13:46 AM »
The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

I only attack people who attack me, you are one of them, not my problem you wanted steal views, in every other stream promote your own you will get banned I gave you few warnings, you still decided to do it

go steal more someone job without writing anything that its not your


you spam your link web almost every 1 week and about support your channels at discord
« Last Edit: December 02, 2024, 04:19:34 AM by Szwagier »
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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2024, 06:36:38 AM »
The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

I only attack people who attack me, you are one of them, not my problem you wanted steal views, in every other stream promote your own you will get banned I gave you few warnings, you still decided to do it

go steal more someone job without writing anything that its not your


you spam your link web almost every 1 week and about support your channels at discord

why do you care where i post ?

do you feel humillated that i'm not feeding your ego ?


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last time visited your stream was like 3 or 4 months ago, few sentences and prior to that I was like 2 years ago last time.

You are clearly traumatized with me. And you are always an asshole that makes me stay away from multiplayer. Stop talking to me. I'm not here to feed your ego like these guys that surround your stuff.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2024, 06:42:35 AM by dannyldd »

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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2024, 07:39:15 AM »
cause you talk about me

you just insult other people, arent you they same? toxic? or you can write but other people cant?

you did nothing for community FYI
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Re: War2 USA server got Shutdown at November 28th late night
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2024, 03:03:10 PM »
Part of what makes RU fun for the player base is the toxic trash talking and trolling everyone does here. Thats part of the culture.
The USA player base will have to look for alternatives if they don’t like it.

you would have a very toxic sense of humor, if not the same people that actually enjoy that type of behavior.

The very first response, like from this Lance person, which I know nothing about except that he posts around sometimes, was just a random negative comment from a random cretin.

The same has happened to me with this character known as u8, that a lot of people feed his ego across this community and his stream.

Its obviously going to get people away from the game, if the same cretins that surround the game are having that type of attitude over and over and over again, in completely random situations. It's just repelent for a ton of people.

When I firstly played first few games on War2 russian server, i already got either banned by this "Selenity" player in server or few others trashtalking me or calling me a hacker by using mage-invisibility.

For like 2-3 years I was absent to play War2 multiplayer on russia because these same type of dudes, like the u8 person that is well known around. Its very obvious to me that these people don't make any favor to grow war2 popularity aside from increasing their own egos.

At least, in War2USA I wasn't aware to face some big cretin that was just there to feed his ego.

Be that as it may, it happens in other games as well, even with high popularity. But for the most casuals, it's of course not making any favor to the game. Even more if its on a "New game" like War2 remaster.

Don’t play on RU if you don’t like it.
We aren’t changing the culture to accommodate the War2USA community.

You dont speak at all for the community, you speak for a small part of this community that have power and decide for everyone else..

No one cares about RU, peoples hang where the community is, thats all, we are not here to please RU and your suppose culture.

If remastered was a bit decent, no one will be here anymore, i know it, you know it, everyone know it.
Mr.120apm aka U8! Best player of the world losing 4v3 against Phillip5256.