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« Reply #270 on: March 18, 2022, 01:09:37 AM »
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« Reply #271 on: March 18, 2022, 06:17:06 AM »

Yeah that’s the thing with communism you get lazy free loading people like Jon here that wants to eat the fruits hard working peoples labor without contributing.
There is a reason the transition from socialism to communism has never exisited.
Most people aren’t lazy and don’t like taking care of free loaders.
what's this diaper shitter talking about and why is he spewing boomer rhetoric?  🤣🤣

plus isn't this kid just some trundfund baby? wtf does this dork know about working?  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Don’t assume you know me personally I do work. Where do you work?
Why should hard working people take care of people who don’t want to work?
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« Reply #272 on: March 18, 2022, 12:11:32 PM »
You are truly demented thinking that a poll taken by a corrupt agency over 30 yrs ago has any relevance to anything at all in today's world.  Given the date,  even if that data were true (which I know it's not),  it's COMPLETELY irrelevant since it's human nature to disapprove of CHANGE to begin with.  You cant poll someone BEFORE a change and then expect their answer to be relevant AFTER they have gone through the change you fucking retard.

Face it,  you're not going to be able to defeat humans that actually posses the ability to think for themselves and have common sense.  That's why communists always lose and it's citizens are so easy to control.  They possess neither.

Cry about that.  LMFAO.
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Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

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« Reply #273 on: March 18, 2022, 12:16:36 PM »
Move to North Korea or China and find out what true communism in all it's glory actually feels like.  Everything is provided to you by the state (especially if you're an elite in power),  no one owns anything at all (except for the elites in power) so there's no whining about property, the food supply is the same for everyone (except for the elites in power), everyone gets the same amount of cash (except for the elites in power), oh ya,  it's an absolute paradise and perfect example of what Communism provides.
china is succeeding wildly, as america continues to create its own collapse
    

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« Reply #274 on: March 18, 2022, 12:18:46 PM »
china is succeeding wildly, as america continues to create its own collapse

Well duuuuuuuuh,  when you actively participate in stealing IP and have Slave labor camps to produce things,  of course you're going to be able to be successful compared to a capitalist state that has to PAY its labor force and doesnt steal IP.  And if you want to call the Uyghur Genocide "succeeding wildly" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide),  well,  then I guess you support human genocide.  Where in the US is there an equivalent to that currently.  AFAIK it only existed pre-1865 and has since been outlawed because it's not right.  Even in today's US prisons,  prisoners are paid for work.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext.

You are correct about the US however.  It's destroying itself from the inside out because it's allowing communists in it's government which indeed ARE destroying it from the inside out (AOC and all her coherts, Biden, Harris, Sanders and just about every dem in the senate are all self proclaimed "democratic socialists" which is just another fancy name for communist).  Communist party activities/gatherings/participation, etc are actually supposed to be illegal in the US but they are now masquerading around as "Socialist Democrats".   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
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Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

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« Reply #275 on: March 18, 2022, 01:47:58 PM »
Face it,  you're not going to be able to defeat humans that actually posses the ability to think for themselves and have common sense. 

those people barely exist anymore, capitalism ruined all critical thought. only consume, consume products but also western media propaganda.

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« Reply #276 on: March 18, 2022, 01:49:19 PM »
china is succeeding wildly, as america continues to create its own collapse

Well duuuuuuuuh,  when you actively participate in stealing IP and have Slave labor camps to produce things,  of course you're going to be able to be successful compared to a capitalist state that has to PAY its labor force and doesnt steal IP.  And if you want to call the Uyghur Genocide "succeeding wildly" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide),  well,  then I guess you support human genocide.  Where in the US is there an equivalent to that.

Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext.

You are correct about the US however.  It's destroying itself from the inside out because it's allowing communists in it's government which indeed ARE destroying it from the inside out (AOC and all her coherts, Biden, Harris, Sanders and just about every dem in the senate are all self proclaimed "democratic socialists" which is just another fancy name for communist).  Communist party activities/gatherings/participation, etc are actually supposed to be illegal in the US but they are now masquerading around as "Socialist Democrats".   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954


China isn't stealing anything (typical whining yanks who get out-competed start crying cheating, stealing, etc) and there is no Uighur genocide.

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« Reply #277 on: March 18, 2022, 01:59:20 PM »
Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

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« Reply #278 on: March 18, 2022, 02:01:19 PM »
yea that's what a prison looks like lol.


you'll find worse things at Guantanamo and cia black sites

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« Reply #279 on: March 18, 2022, 10:10:04 PM »
Politics is akin to a religion at this point.
Attacking someone’s political beliefs is akin to attacking their religion in this day and age.
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« Reply #280 on: March 20, 2022, 05:27:53 PM »
You are correct about the US however.  It's destroying itself from the inside out because it's allowing communists in it's government which indeed ARE destroying it from the inside out (AOC and all her coherts, Biden, Harris, Sanders and just about every dem in the senate are all self proclaimed "democratic socialists" which is just another fancy name for communist).  Communist party activities/gatherings/participation, etc are actually supposed to be illegal in the US but they are now masquerading around as "Socialist Democrats".   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
I'm sorry, but this is pure brain damage.  The United States is extremely dedicated to capitalism. 

* Bernie, AOC, etc are not communist at all (they do not support a dictatorship of the workers, they do not support state ownership of enterprise).
* Bernie, AOC etc are completely powerless and are unable to achieve any of their objectives even with Biden in the presidency and Dems controlling both houses.  For example, no Medicare for All, free college, student loan forgiveness, ambitious climate action plan.  Nothing of the sort, as the insurance companies, banks and loan companies, energy companies etc will never allow any of that and remain in complete control even with a Democratic government.
* Obama himself intervened to stop Bernie from winning the Dem primary, calling Pete Buttigieg and others and encouraging them to drop out and endorse Biden to circumvent Bernie winning.
* The country as a whole is further away from having a strong assertive government than it ever has been
* If that anti-communist law was actually constitutional and being enforced, that enforcement alone would prove that the United States is not a ""free"" country since certain political opinions would be outlawed.

Like, you are seeing a movement that was completely defeated and stymied, and not only do you fear it, you believe it's actually somehow in control despite the movement accomplishing absolutely nothing.  What does this say about... everything?  The US is so right wing that people on the right are charged up and scared about absolute nothings, while they get win after win (and the right will easily win the next House and the Presidency in the next elections, and the left probably won't even be on the ballot).
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« Reply #281 on: March 20, 2022, 05:30:15 PM »

Opposition Platform has 43 seats in parliament and publicly opposes the Russian invasion. Utterly indefensible and undemocratic move regardless of whether the party can be adequately defined as "leftist."

Ukraine is now officially fascist and anti-democratic.
    

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« Reply #282 on: March 20, 2022, 07:50:04 PM »
* Bernie, AOC, etc are not communist at all (they do not support a dictatorship of the workers, they do not support state ownership of enterprise).
Incorrect,  they have all come out and publicly stated that they are "Democratic Socialists" which is not the same as a Socialist.  A democratic socialist's goals are more akin to communism to the point where it's basically just an alias for communism. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism  "With the association of social democracy as policy regime[111] and the development of the Third Way,[25] social democracy became almost exclusively associated with capitalist welfare states,[112] while democratic socialism came to include communist and revolutionary tendencies.[113]"

You are mixing up Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism.  They are similar but have different philosophies of achieving the same goals.  For example,  AOC more than once has stated she wants the govt to own ALL the property in the US so that she could "level the playing field" as far as who gets to live where.  She has also stated that large corporations such as Walmart, Amazon, Google, etc should be Govt controlled so that the Executive Officers incomes could be regulated and that revenue used elsewhere or even eliminated completely and replaced by government officials.  Those are all communistic ideas.  Therefore it's pretty obvious that anyone who's a Democratic Socialist is also a communist at heart.

Bernie, AOC etc are completely powerless and are unable to achieve any of their objectives
Biden continues to refuse to revert energy policy because of the "Democratic Socialists" blocking it so that he cannot set it back to what Trump had which gave the US it's first taste of actual true energy independence for the first time in it's history.  They have accomplished MORE than they should have which is why the US is currently going parabolic to the downside where as Trump had it going parabolic to the upside.  Under Trump the border was being secured,  countries werent invading each other, and the US didnt depend on anyone else for it's energy.  That was all destroyed on the first day of Biden's presidency and it's been getting worse ever since,  to the point where countries are invading each other because Biden is viewed as weak (because he's being controlled by the Democratic Socialists and has no brain to make decisions of his own), the US depends on energy from outside it's own borders, and it's southern border is being invaded by soon to be voting fraud criminals as they will all vote illegally and for the party that let them in (the communists).  The best way to get someones vote is for them to enable you to do things you otherwise would not have been able to do (such as rob stores in San Fran with little to no repercussions, cross over the southern border illegally with no repercussions,  etc).

Obama himself intervened to stop Bernie from winning the Dem primary, calling Pete Buttigieg and others and encouraging them to drop out and endorse Biden to circumvent Bernie winning.
Thats actually a sign of how a communist behaves.  Communists fear competition since they cant control the outcome,  Sanders is not as easily controlled as Biden,  thats just a fact thats been proven over and over ever since he came to office.

* The country as a whole is further away from having a strong assertive government than it ever has been
This couldnt be further from the truth.  If it were,  there wouldnt be so many 2A and 1A arguments going on right now.  The govt is becoming to controlling and has been eroding both 2A and 1A ever since Clinton came to office,  it's been getting worse ever since.

* If that anti-communist law was actually constitutional and being enforced, that enforcement alone would prove that the United States is not a ""free"" country since certain political opinions would be outlawed.
I agree with you on this one.  However,  it's a law and it should be enforced until it's repealed.  That's how Rule of Law works.  I would be for repealing it.
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Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

^---- Dellam doesnt hack!  See, even by his own admission, no hack!!  LMFAO.

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« Reply #283 on: March 21, 2022, 07:56:52 AM »
* Bernie, AOC, etc are not communist at all (they do not support a dictatorship of the workers, they do not support state ownership of enterprise).
Incorrect,  they have all come out and publicly stated that they are "Democratic Socialists" which is not the same as a Socialist.  A democratic socialist's goals are more akin to communism to the point where it's basically just an alias for communism. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism  "With the association of social democracy as policy regime[111] and the development of the Third Way,[25] social democracy became almost exclusively associated with capitalist welfare states,[112] while democratic socialism came to include communist and revolutionary tendencies.[113]"

You are mixing up Social Democracy with Democratic Socialism.  They are similar but have different philosophies of achieving the same goals.  For example,  AOC more than once has stated she wants the govt to own ALL the property in the US so that she could "level the playing field" as far as who gets to live where.  She has also stated that large corporations such as Walmart, Amazon, Google, etc should be Govt controlled so that the Executive Officers incomes could be regulated and that revenue used elsewhere or even eliminated completely and replaced by government officials.  Those are all communistic ideas.  Therefore it's pretty obvious that anyone who's a Democratic Socialist is also a communist at heart.
lol you think im gonna confuse these terms?  ive been a communist for like 15 years i know what all this stuff is.  truth is this, they call themselves democratic socialists, not communists.  just like i said, communists support a dictatorship of the workers.  democratic socialists dont.  they just want to vote in socialism.  but on top of that, regardless of what any of them call themselves, theyre not democratic socialists either.  theyre social democrats.  look at bernies policies, it's just capitalism with strong social programs, and he constantly cites the nordic states, which of course would be a big improvement, but none of those are socialist or democratic socialist.  those are social democracies.  in conclusion, the proper understanding of these terms shows us that this one powerless movement on the left in the US is multiple steps away from communism, if they even could do anything.  not only can they not, even joe-ass biden cant pass his boring tired old liberal shit because they dont want to/manchin & sinema dont agree to...

so to recap, not only is bernie not a communist, not only is democratic socialism not communism, not only is bernie not actually a democratic socialist (instead being a social democrat), not only does bernie & co not have any power to pass any social democratic policies, but also old ass dem biden cant pass his basic shit.  and you think communism is ruining america
    

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« Reply #284 on: March 21, 2022, 10:13:18 AM »
and you think communism is ruining america
It's not a thought.  It's a historical fact.  Anything socialist/communist has failed miserably (Social Security, Welfare system, Obamacare, Urban criminal policies etc). 

ive been a communist for like 15 years
It is curious though that you have hidden the fact that you're a communist for so long,  this is the first I've seen you admit such anyway.  At least you're out of the closet now I suppose.  Do you also live in a communist country?  If not why not move to one?  I hear Cuba has great beaches and North Korea has excellent mountains for skiing,  Venezuela has some nice weather,  China has every kind of terrain feature one could want, and Russia is doing awesome things these days.  There are some great communist states to give yourself to so that someone else can wrap a leash around you like a dog if that's your thing.  I hear communists are often also into the Sub/Dom BDSM thing and like leashes, whips, and chains lol.

Explain why someone would want a dictatorship of workers let alone a dictatorship of anything when it comes to government.  The only dictatorships I have ever approved of are parental,  and MAYBE within a private company (I couldnt work for a place like that,  I have as a young kid and would never again),  the company I have worked in for the past 20+yrs votes on things publicly within the company (not public to the world) that would affect all or most of its employees,  unions do the same thing but I disapprove of unions fundamentally for other reasons.  Previous to that I was self employed.  Previous to self employment I worked at Ames Dept store (similar to Walmart) as a HS student and would never work at a place like that ever again,  the dictatorship was far to obvious.

Excerpt from a Communist Workers Party site (https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-8/cwp-d-of-p.htm):

In addition to suppressing the exploiters, the dictatorship of the proletariat must also suppress all sorts of bad elements who try to wreck our young socialist society. As Lenin said,

... these elements of disintegration cannot ’reveal themselves’ otherwise than in the increase of crime, hooliganism, corruption, profiteering and outrages of every kind. To put these down requires time and requires an iron hand . . . The misfortune of previous revolutions was that the revolutionary enthusiasm of the people, which sustained them in their state of tension and gave them the strength to suppress ruthlessly the elements of disintegration did not last long. (Lenin. “The Immediate Tasks of the Soviet Government,” Collected Works, Vol. 27)


Translation:  We must partake in human Genocide with an Iron Fist (as evidenced by Russia's current absurdity,  China's current  Genocide against the Uighurs as well as ALL past and current communist states).  In otherwords,  Communism BREEDS GENOCIDE as it's basic to it's core because of it's need to dictate what you should and shouldnt be doing for ruling elite's own personal gain.  For those that dont understand what a proletariat is,  it's just a fancy term for Workers.  So  Dictatorship of Proletariat is the same as Dictatorship of Workers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proletariat).  Not sure why Blid didnt use the correct term since they are one in the same.

That whole entire Communist Workers Party page is utterly disgusting.  It's full of enemy this, destroy that, crush those, suppress them,  suppress that,  etc etc  VERY violent.  I dont understand how a modern human could read that and not see that it's just an excuse for the ruling elite to take power over everything you own for their own benefit.  It literally tries to justify human genocide MULTIPLE times.  There just simply is no form of communism/socialism that works without partaking in human genocide, violence, or suppression/oppression.  None.  So it doesnt surprise me that it's outlawed in the US via the anti-communist act of 1954,  Socialism/Communism are very cruel and violent methods of governing.

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Dk At hall is cause I started with temple at start and didn't need the castle . Not a hack .  I wouldn't bother editing a ss btw

^---- Dellam doesnt hack!  See, even by his own admission, no hack!!  LMFAO.