@cracky. You said:
Well you falsely assume that if you are not religious you don't have a conscience. I can fathom being more than an evolved animal..
I assumend you have no conscience because you said you were a monkey (an animal). I never said that because you "are not religious" you have no conscience. I was going by what you stated. And you bluntly stated that you believe you are a monkey (an animal). Human beings have a conscience, animals do not, and this is what seperates us from animals. If you identify as an animal, how can you have human characteristics?
I asked, what story is "religion" telling? You didn't give an answer, you gave an opinion.
The valid foundation of Islam is the Qur'aan and Sunnah. Now, it is your turn, what valid foundation does your outlook have? You say "proof" and "facts", like what?
The worlds population may be religious, but I am not making a case for religion (as a whole and vague term), I am explicitly talking from the Islamic perspective, in which case, every other "religion" is totally invalid, and is disbelief. As explicitly stated in the Qur'aan.
Atheism and agnosticism are reactionary oppositions to traumatic experiences with religion. If you were raised "religious" (Whatever that means), and you later abandon such beliefs, it is usually due to some trauma. The trauma is blamed on religion and 'science' is adopted as a complete revolt, with alleged "proofs" and "facts" (in regards to the metaphysical, not the physical, because I know people in this disposition like to play games).
Nevermind the fact that I was discussing secularist movements (which are about obscuring knowledge by seperating it from public perception), not full-blown atheism and I never mentioned agnosticism.
Regardless, the reason I didn't explicitly discuss atheism is because, from the Islamic perspective, atheism, agnosticism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Mormonism, Scientology, Secularism and so on fall under one category: Kufr (disbelief).
So no, only "1.6 billion" people of this world are religious, and they are known as Muslims. As for the heresy and secterianism, and deviation within Islam, then as per the authentic hadeeth, that within Islam itself, there will be 73 sects, all of which are in the fire of Hell except for 1 and that one is what the Prophet and his Companions were upon.
How is my final statement untrue? YOU said it, I am just going by the end result. It's a principle we apply to everything. You have adopted an empty belief, and this empty belief is the foundation of your life (unless Allah has Mercy on you and guides you to Islam) as of today. If your foundation is empty, wherein you consider yourself a monkey (or just at the level of animal), then what value is there to you life really? You believe you are merely on a some floating rock in space. That is all you are a monkey on a floating rock in space. What value is there to you or your existence that transcends your chosen animalistic state? What is the purpose?
How is my line of questioning illogical and your assertion that you are a monkey logical? How can you be a monkey (an animal) and then believe you have humanity (which is reserved for man, a conscious being). Perhaps you should really sit down and re-consider your beliefs about yourself and about your enviornment. I mean, unless you were raised like Mowgli, and you took Rudyard Kipling as your creator...even then, Mowgli becomes a man (and this shows how the Freemasons believe they can play the role of Allah, with literature).
You don't have time to "respond to the 6 pages of material"?
Why did you respond to it in the first place? I mean, even your response in this thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread itself.