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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Teron-Gorefiend on April 08, 2015, 07:49:15 AM
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Vote. This is so stupid to let someone flaunt his dumb hacks while advertising a shitty map which only brain dead retards give half a fuck.
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voted!
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And what do you mean by "no"? Ban whoever does that after warning?
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I assume that's what No means.
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I really dont think we should have a pool for this question, but since pool can resolve probleme, let's do it!
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??????????????? ? ? ?
is this a serious poll or wtf
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it is, because then Archer will be forced to take his hacks down from the website (or just stop promoting it, having it in desc/username) or bannnn
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oh wasnt aware of cuz i disabled signatures from showing
in which case this thread is specifically related to archer and action must be taken on the subject
can't force him to remove hack from his website but he shouldnt be allowed to put his website on any post or signature :P
either in game or forum
as long as that hack is downloadable from there
dont really need a poll for this subject. admins have never encouraged hack posting and have deleted hack posts in the past. (like that retardryu some weeks ago) so...
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hence the poll, bro.
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He already said 3 times he will remove hacks from his website if admin ask him.
Burnt ask him last day and he still dont cares, this question dint deserve a pool, this guy should just have his account locked up untill he stop promoting hacks.
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Yeps. Hence the poll. Just stop advertising garbage websites with hacks. Take down the hack. Admins can edit his siggy if he does not comply then.
Or mute or temp ban or whatever.
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Yeps. Hence the poll. Just stop advertising garbage websites with hacks. Take down the hack. Admins can edit his siggy if he does not comply then.
Or mute or temp ban or whatever.
Mute, ban or whatever not gonna work since peoples know how to keep playing.
The only solution here is to locked up the accounts.
He still gonna be able to play, but we gonna stop the propaganda untill he realise what he do and give him his account back.
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meh, whatever, ill vote NO
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Sure keep them, some use them in single player for fun. There already is a disclaimer, should be enough. If a person wanted to hack they will lol, doesn't take much to find a hack apart from a simple google search.
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whats up with the constant single player argument, jesus retards, thats what cheat codes are for. on screen
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whats up with the constant single player argument, jesus retards, thats what cheat codes are for. on screen
They can play single without Ru, if they join Ru it's not anymore single.
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whats up with the constant single player argument, jesus retards, thats what cheat codes are for. on screen
Who wants to keep typing all of that, just a few clicks here and there with program.
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you are literally retarded, your voting power should be halved
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yeah like serious
there should be an IQ exam prior to registering to this forum
and depending on the results is your amount of posts allowed per day ..
prolly ryu would be allowed to post once or twice a day that way
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yeah like serious
there should be an IQ exam prior to registering to this forum
and depending on the results is your amount of posts allowed per day ..
prolly ryu would be allowed to post once or twice a day that way
you are literally retarded, your voting power should be halved
UMadBroS?
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Ryu have the right to said what he think without getting bash.
Even if you like it or not.
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so do I
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what purpose would having a maphack for single player when you can use on screen? its obviously meant for multiplayer
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whats up with the constant single player argument, jesus retards, thats what cheat codes are for. on screen
Beat me to it...
hatchet
it is a good day to die
unite the clans
deck me out
etc
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whats up with the constant single player argument, jesus retards, thats what cheat codes are for. on screen
Beat me to it...
hatchet
it is a good day to die
unite the clans
deck me out
etc
Is there a cheat code for build hacks? I.e making a roost with a town hall?
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what purpose would having a maphack for single player when you can use on screen?
You can't set a free for all setting on single player mode against comps where as multiplayer comp settings you can set it to a free for all, other then that don't see much 'purpose' and I think it should be removed
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Looks like some people are listening to what I have to say. ;)
I envisioned something a bit more formal though. I think that if we are to run with this idea of community voting, we should consider guidelines and a set format for bringing forward a case like this. For example, specifying who is being accused and the proposed punishment. In this case, I think a warning would be suitable: If USA~Archer doesn't remove the link on his website by a certain deadline, the admins will remove all links to his website on the forum (including the one in his profile). Advertising it on the the forum or server after the deadline while the hack link is still there should result in a ban of x amount of days and so on per repeated offense. I think there should also be a set amount of days for a poll like this to avoid waiting a month for a resolution. I think we can rework the system as we go along to ensure that fair judgments and punishments are made.
I'm still not sure how the admins feel about this or how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think it's a better way. I trust the admins with their judgments, but I also consider that there's a multitude of wisdom among us and we're only using a small portion of it. As the current ruling system has become widely recognized as Hitlerism 2.0, I think the ruling system I've proposed will be seen in a more positive light.
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Looks like some people are listening to what I have to say. ;)
I envisioned something a bit more formal though. I think that if we are to run with this idea of community voting, we should consider guidelines and a set format for bringing forward a case like this. For example, specifying who is being accused and the proposed punishment. In this case, I think a warning would be suitable: If USA~Archer doesn't remove the link on his website by a certain deadline, the admins will remove all links to his website on the forum (including the one in his profile). Advertising it on the the forum or server after the deadline while the hack link is still there should result in a ban of x amount of days and so on per repeated offense. I think there should also be a set amount of days for a poll like this to avoid waiting a month for a resolution. I think we can rework the system as we go along to ensure that fair judgments and punishments are made.
I'm still not sure how the admins feel about this or how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think it's a better way. I trust the admins with their judgments, but I also consider that there's a multitude of wisdom among us and we're only using a small portion of it. As the current ruling system has become widely recognized as Hitlerism 2.0, I think the ruling system I've proposed will be seen in a more positive light.
Oh nice!, you cocksuckers gonna bully a guy off the server. DAM, someone give Rit a medal for promoting such behavior. [emoji35] [emoji107]
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Let them host downloads for what they want soon it won't even matter. He put rules around the hack anyway. Having them hosted on your site is not a good idea or a way to gain trust in a war2 community.
PS I know there is alot of you hackers out there. You all have used and still use my old programs. I was getting 300+ download on my programs years ago. With an active community of 100. 300+ downloads is insane for the size of the community.
Soon enough we will be monitoring your warcraft 2 and programs running while playing. We will have a black list of all type of hacks, known memory values. Then after this goes into effect they should make account 1 per ip and email. Hopefully one account will be forums, game, website, etc... BAN That would take care of the little tech brains possibly bypassing the cheat system because non are 100%.
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Then after this goes into effect they should make account 1 per ip and email
i'm sorry, but one account per ip sounds retarded. It's prone to the same things as ip ban - proxy, mcdonalds and stuff. One ip per email doesn't sound much better either with smurf emails, 10 minute emails etc.
Soon enough we will be monitoring your warcraft 2 and programs running while playing. We will have a black list of all type of hacks, known memory values.
and this sounds efficient obviously :p again - starcraft style
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One ip by mail is great for one reason, it make peoples who get ban tired pretty fast of creating new account over and over by this way.
But from the other side, it's bad because he dint allow anymore peoples to smurf, and smurf is still an important part of this game...
I mean i dont like smurf in any official decision or any official tournament/league etc.
But smurf is great for different reason from exhibition POV.
When you stop playing for couples month and getting back, so you want to pratice yourself a bit before to get on your real account.
Smurf is also great when you want to pratice on different map your not really good.
Smurf is also great when you want to see how far you can go in win victory before lose...
I mean smurf is a important part of this game from a side, from other side i dont think they deserve to get in important decision league or tournament... But Smurf is a part of war2.
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Just a though I could go hardware serials And slow them down alot faster. We can evaluate what the hacker is doing if he is running our client If he is not he cant connect. We can see the values he was changing and determine what type of hack. Add to black list, next. I bet the community will see a huge difference and grow. Look at all the people who don't even play because of cheating....
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yes, hardware serial is the way to go if you ask me.
also yes, anti-hack should definitely be one of the priorities, but it's a lot of work too so obviously everyone's patient
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Looks like some people are listening to what I have to say. ;)
I envisioned something a bit more formal though. I think that if we are to run with this idea of community voting, we should consider guidelines and a set format for bringing forward a case like this. For example, specifying who is being accused and the proposed punishment. In this case, I think a warning would be suitable: If USA~Archer doesn't remove the link on his website by a certain deadline, the admins will remove all links to his website on the forum (including the one in his profile). Advertising it on the the forum or server after the deadline while the hack link is still there should result in a ban of x amount of days and so on per repeated offense. I think there should also be a set amount of days for a poll like this to avoid waiting a month for a resolution. I think we can rework the system as we go along to ensure that fair judgments and punishments are made.
I'm still not sure how the admins feel about this or how the rest of the community feels about it, but I think it's a better way. I trust the admins with their judgments, but I also consider that there's a multitude of wisdom among us and we're only using a small portion of it. As the current ruling system has become widely recognized as Hitlerism 2.0, I think the ruling system I've proposed will be seen in a more positive light.
Oh nice!, you cocksuckers gonna bully a guy off the server. DAM, someone give Rit a medal for promoting such behavior. [emoji35] [emoji107]
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You call it bullying. I call it respecting the wishes of the majority of the community. If the community wants no association with a website that promotes a hack, then I think they have the right to be rid of links that lead to that website on their server and forum. I also think it's better than the initial intention to just ban him. Is it not reasonable for us to ask for this link to be removed from our community when the majority of the community agrees it should?
You have the option to present a counterargument for the case and sway voting. A little reasoning can go a long way.
By the way, do we have the option to change our votes as long as the poll is open? It would be nice if we could either disable voting for a certain amount of time so that when a case is presented it can be discussed first or if voters could just change their votes based on a counterargument that resonated with them.
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My intention is not to ban users. Everybody is welcome here but don't just promote hacks.
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admins have spotted hacking links in the past. (and removed them)
and they will do so now. (take action)
i have no reason to think otherwise
stop with the "deomacacy" (poll is not needed)
admins have common sense
but
guess what
they also have a life
this will get resolved
once someone puts attention to it
its not the same as the people here hitting f5 and expecting a result the next 5 mins.
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no need to get a 6page thread, really.
when u see il around posting
Pm iL with a reminder to look at the thread, that'll suffice.
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admins have spotted hacking links in the past. (and removed them)
and they will do so now. (take action)
i have no reason to think otherwise
stop with the "deomacacy" (poll is not needed)
admins have common sense
but
guess what
they also have a life
this will get resolved
once someone puts attention to it
its not the same as the people here hitting f5 and expecting a result the next 5 mins.
Lol you really love being a sheep huh? Pedoking.
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Lmao, might be good to change your avatar to that. Even homer simpson is no sheep.
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As i posted in different thread:
I think hackers should go to get banned. So, you advertise the hacks, some people can try that and then they should go to ban (bad for community) or probably find the way to avoid ban and keep playing with hacks (even worse for community).
So what a good resaon to advertise hacks here?
If one decides to hack, he will find hack without our help, then he have to be banned, so don't attract people for that.
So i think we should not provoke people to hack, to give any links to hacks to links to pages with links to hacks, to publish names of hacking tools, etc.
I don't see any positive reasons to share hacks between the community.
So my offer is to explain that to people and to ask them to remove their links to hacks. I don't like to be in war with our people, to delete someone's signatures, to ban someone's accounts or w/e.
I think that such poll is a good example of democracy: some of you are right that our admins are far from community wishes, so why not to ask players?
I think i missed this obvious question while posting the Rules poll, but here's a good addition to the Rules as soon as we have such problem.
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I also think it's better than the initial intention to just ban him.
My intention is not to ban users. Everybody is welcome here but don't just promote hacks.
Indeed. My mistake.
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ok time to delete his link in his signature
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ok time to delete his link in his signature
same could be said for you :o
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This poll is obviously going to be a landslide.
If we follow the results of this poll, it means we'll inform him that unless he removes the hacks, we'll have to turn off his signature, etc.
If he continues to spread the link and the link has hacks, we'll have to ban him.
Is that really what people want? Just want to make double sure.
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well everyone has put their stances
whats yours blid ?
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This poll is obviously going to be a landslide.
If we follow the results of this poll, it means we'll inform him that unless he removes the hacks, we'll have to turn off his signature, etc.
If he continues to spread the link and the link has hacks, we'll have to ban him.
Is that really what people want? Just want to make double sure.
Dont need to ban him, Lock and suspend all his account from forum and client where he do propaganda.
Every account wich talk about that website where the hacks are.
When hes gonna remove the hacks, give it back.
Please: If you do something to him, add it to the calendar, what the punishment and how much time for wich reason, ty.
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he said ban IF he doesnt remove.
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lol tk voted yes..
that bitter noob
go away !! lol
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This poll is obviously going to be a landslide.
If we follow the results of this poll, it means we'll inform him that unless he removes the hacks, we'll have to turn off his signature, etc.
If he continues to spread the link and the link has hacks, we'll have to ban him.
Is that really what people want? Just want to make double sure.
hell tea
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This poll is obviously going to be a landslide.
If we follow the results of this poll, it means we'll inform him that unless he removes the hacks, we'll have to turn off his signature, etc.
If he continues to spread the link and the link has hacks, we'll have to ban him.
Is that really what people want? Just want to make double sure.
Congrats mr.admin gonna ban a person on the theory that people well use his link for hacks other than the actual intended purpose of a tourney.
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This is a great example of why democracy fails, when the majority are idiots and vote themselves into communism
This isnt about "hax" or "hax0rz" this about giving a war2 community power to vote on ANYTHING and control any aspect of your life that is external to your gameplay on the server itself.
Next week we could have a poll and decide that the majority of people think that a player on the server should remove a picture from his facebook, and if we all vote and agree, he will be banned if he doesnt comply. It could be absolutely anything, since apparently following the server rules doesnt matter, what matters is doing anything a forum poll says.
I have not broken any server rules and yet I am being threatened to be banned because Teron has an intolerance for custom maps and custom map players
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I have not broken any server rules and yet I am being threatened to be banned because Teron has an intolerance for custom maps and custom map players
I have an issue with you hosting hacks. The custom maps/custom map players is just a trivial non issue. I have also clearly stated I do not want you to be banned but to only remove the hacks from your website which, to be honest, is nice. I am even willing to participate if hacks are not advertised (if my free time permits).
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I agree that democracy fails, but that's what we have here. And with the introduction of hitlerism 1.0 and later hitlerism 2.0, we have to be aware of possible content moderation on war2.ru.
Facebook picture is not related to war2 as long as it's not posted/linked to here or on the server.
I have not broken any server rules
that is accurate, you haven't. But then rules have changed (or, as one might say, a certain missed aspect has been covered) and now it's against the rules. Nobody is going to punish you for the past, only the present.
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time to delete...
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Already deleted as far as I can see...
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I have not broken any server rules nor am I currently, if you are referring to #7, I have not incited anyone to break any rules, if anything I have directly encouraged against breaking server rules
I realize english is not your first language but learn me this
Incite: urge or persuade
I have neither urged or persuaded anyone to use hacks, in fact I have done the exact opposite, persuading against using them on server.
Also Claw misquotes me on democracy: Democracy fails WHEN the majority are idiots.
If iL does not step in and you guys go through with this, it will set a precedent, allowing future polls that control any aspect of any players life outside of his gameplay
This an overreach of forum members voting power
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Democracy is a powerful force and has my support when... when you agree with its verdict, huh? rotfl
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I have not broken any server rules nor am I currently, if you are referring to #7, I have not incited anyone to break any rules, if anything I have directly encouraged against breaking server rules
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If iL does not step in and you guys go through with this, it will set a precedent, allowing future polls that control any aspect of any players life outside of his gameplay
This an overreach of forum members voting power
The thing is, the current set of rules is determined by a community vote. My original suggestion some days ago was to add a new entry to the rules poll for this case -- are you saying that this restriction ("no hacks on 3rd party websites") would be acceptable to you in that context, even though it attempts to control an outside aspect of your life?
The incredible thing here isn't that people made a poll trying to force someone to take hacks off a website, it's that a seemingly reasonable, intelligent person who's going to such lengths to positively contribute to the community is making such a big deal out of removing hacks from his website in the first place. That's the whole reason admins are simply asking and not making threats to try and force your hand -- we respect what you're doing enough to not instantly censor your website because of 1% of the content, and in turn hope you will respect our community enough to not use your website as a platform for distributing hacks. (By comparison, if some spiteful troll were to spam a dropbox link to hacks on the forum/site/whatever it would be instantly deleted without question.)
This is an obvious decision on your part, and yet you refuse to be reasonable about it. But why? Pettiness? Spitefulness? Defiance of authority? What exactly does this accomplish?
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I think this dude has some alternative agenda, asking all this stuff about PVPGN and soirce code for host bot. I think he is planning on making a private server for custom players and was just trying to start a fight with the community to justify it. There is literally no other reason I can see for him to be so stubbern about removing the hacks,
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Also, check his profile in game, he probably has it linked in there too.
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I think this dude has some alternative agenda, asking all this stuff about PVPGN and soirce code for host bot. I think he is planning on making a private server for custom players and was just trying to start a fight with the community to justify it. There is literally no other reason I can see for him to be so stubbern about removing the hacks,
Hes a network engineer....this is wut they do on their off times for fun....some people jerk off while others setup servers. [emoji14]
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im sure he does both
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im sure he does both
Who doesn't? [emoji57] [emoji106]
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I have not broken any server rules nor am I currently, if you are referring to #7, I have not incited anyone to break any rules, if anything I have directly encouraged against breaking server rules
I realize english is not your first language but learn me this
Incite: urge or persuade
I have neither urged or persuaded anyone to use hacks, in fact I have done the exact opposite, persuading against using them on server.
Also Claw misquotes me on democracy: Democracy fails WHEN the majority are idiots.
If iL does not step in and you guys go through with this, it will set a precedent, allowing future polls that control any aspect of any players life outside of his gameplay
This an overreach of forum members voting power
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Any form of political system has it's flaws and democracy itself, in my opinion, is just the people becoming their own form of tyrant. 51% get their way while 49% are now subjected to something they do not want. It's not perfect but it's better than leaving the decisions to one person or a small group of people. Communism really isn't a good way to describe the system here considering that it's a socio-economic system made up of various components, most of which are completely irrelevant in this community. One of these components is Totalitarianism (rather Totalitarian Democracy in our case), which is what I believe you're referring to, and I don't agree that it's the current state we're in. We have a Direct Democracy here where everyone is given the equal right to vote on community decisions and it's exactly what iL has been promoting for a while now.
We are not forcing you to remove it from your own website. It's your website and you may do whatever you want with it. I could understand if we were having a poll to demand that it be taken down from your website as it's not anyone's say but yours. However, just as you have your right to do whatever you want with your website, we have the right to do what we want with ours which includes the removal of a website that a hack can be downloaded from. Most of us would like to see you continue advertising your tournament on the forum, calendar, and the server. I personally would have removed it as soon as I received the feedback on it from the rest of the community to avoid further conflict and continue promoting my tournament without any setbacks.
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Well sounds like you and claw should watch my desktop. I'll show you current process of the macro less bot. Right now I think IL fucked something with version check because my bot is only connecting us west and auto dis on another other server.... very werid.... i was so close...
Well put it this way this new problem is stopping me from getting on war2ru now.... should be an easy fix... if someone has a working warwinner that connect to ru send it to me now So i can rip the files...
Anways I'm at the part with the bot where it creates a game with different random port. Just finshed that code compiled and war2 won't connect to ru Only uswest.battle.net..... so i guess I'll go on west and see if I can join if success I am 90% done With bot.
Edit: and claw I won't have to parse from a bot because the program is a bot LOL I can send and receive msgs even add a game lobby Chat from the bot gui!!! I've seen that for starcraft not war2 ;) Imagination of my commands... !vote start, if we find some documents in game lobby packets we could make cool command from banning, to open slots, best part of all ping kick hahahha bye bye lag lol I'm sure it will be buggy as hell though lol....
If the new rule has been voted that any player mentioning a hack by name or link to hack will be banned, regardless of whether the hack was used for a legitimate purpose, and regardless of whether the player himself does not use the hack unfairly (against players on server) and does not incite others to hack,
Then this rule either needs to be enforced on Tupac to stop his production of using warwinner, and all references / links to it must be removed with punishment being banning tupac from server, or else this absurd voted rule needs to be overturned
iL should vetoe this vote
Also if shits going to get this petty and political, we need an unchanging constitution, and there should not be voting to change the constitution rules.
What if the community all voted to allow server attack attempts to be allowed? Then would the rules be changed? No.
The rules should not be changed by vote in this case either. Im not breaking any rules. Deal with it. You cant vote in new rules because you dont like my custom maps.
Its not a problem of hacks. How many reports of hacking on server have we had since all this controversy? Zero? No ones even downloaded it according to my analytics, nobody really cares except GoW worshipping, newb s9 banning assholes like teron.
This is a problem of how much control do we want the community to have in voting power
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just an fyi
promotion of hacks has been forbidden before you even joined this server
you are encouraged to either
a) remove hack from your site
b) dont mention your site to anyone in the game.
or face the consequences
plain and simple.
and dont give me that crap that it will be downloaded for legitimate purposes, that's not something you can assure anyone of.
its a free download link on the site
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You didnt address anything that I said
Let me dumb it down for you homer simpson,
Tupac is in violation of the same "new rule" by referencing warwinner which is an old winbot being rebuilt to be a hosting bot. Tupac asked if someone can post a copy of the original warwinner so he can work on it.
Under this new rule, he should be banned for referencing hacks (it doesnt matter that he is using them for legit reason, and not encouraging others to use them)
And if anyone posts a link to the warwinner code, he will have to be banned also
This is an absurd overreach of voting power with the intent to create a rule to ban a player (me) who has not violated any rules.
iL needs to vetoe this, and take away the ability for community to ban players by vote directly or indirectly (by creating new rules) simply bc the other player doesnt like custom maps
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You didnt address anything that I said
Let me dumb it down for you homer simpson,
Tupac is in violation of the same "new rule" by referencing warwinner which is an old winbot being rebuilt to be a hosting bot. Tupac asked if someone can post a copy of the original warwinner so he can work on it.
Under this new rule, he should be banned for referencing hacks (it doesnt matter that he is using them for legit reason, and not encouraging others to use them)
And if anyone posts a link to the warwinner code, he will have to be banned also
This is an absurd overreach of voting power with the intent to create a rule to ban a player (me) who has not violated any rules.
iL needs to vetoe this, and take away the ability for community to ban players by vote directly or indirectly (by creating new rules) simply bc the other player doesnt like custom maps
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Just let it be clear that Homer Simpson is actually suing him for defamation of character. :P
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They are not banning users I think. Just removing infringing links? You are still posting here as far as I can see. So why go around saying that we should ban tupac or someone posting those links?
Only you have posted downloadable hacks so far as much as I can see...
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USA~Archer, you said you would take it down if iL directly asked you to. Are you backing off from it now?
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If the new rule has been voted that any player mentioning a hack by name or link to hack will be banned, regardless of whether the hack was used for a legitimate purpose, and regardless of whether the player himself does not use the hack unfairly (against players on server) and does not incite others to hack,
Then this rule either needs to be enforced on Tupac to stop his production of using warwinner, and all references / links to it must be removed with punishment being banning tupac from server, or else this absurd voted rule needs to be overturned
iL should vetoe this vote
Also if shits going to get this petty and political, we need an unchanging constitution, and there should not be voting to change the constitution rules.
What if the community all voted to allow server attack attempts to be allowed? Then would the rules be changed? No.
The rules should not be changed by vote in this case either. Im not breaking any rules. Deal with it. You cant vote in new rules because you dont like my custom maps.
Its not a problem of hacks. How many reports of hacking on server have we had since all this controversy? Zero? No ones even downloaded it according to my analytics, nobody really cares except GoW worshipping, newb s9 banning assholes like teron.
This is a problem of how much control do we want the community to have in voting power
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iL has stated on multiple occasions that he does not feel it's his role to impose his views on the entire community, and tries to follow the will of the community as much as possible. He also acknowledges the authority of other admins to take the moderative actions they deem necessary. So name-dropping won't really help your cause in this case, and even if he does weigh in, in all likelihood he won't be taking the stance you're hoping for.
Considering all the time and energy that goes into detecting hackers, banning hackers and preventing hacking in general, the solution should be a no-brainer. Just don't promote hacks. Yes, they have a legitimate use in SP, but what percentage of overall users if that going to benefit? Yes, no one has apparently downloaded them & started hacking on the server, but conversely no one has apparently downloaded them for use in SP either. The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit; I don't see the point in extrapolating beyond that fact into a debate of universal ethics.
This entire situation is confusing and pointless. I really, really don't want to have to set up a filtering rule to censor references to your website. I don't want to alienate you, and I don't want to potentially interfere with your tourney.
But, the majority agrees with that course of action, so that's probably what's going to happen if you choose not to remove the link to the hack on your website, and I'll advise server admins to enforce the same policy on the server (if they aren't already).
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He has been told many times nicely to take it down and he has refused and continues to indirectly link to his site on the forums. I think its time to set up the filtering. Lightbringer has to waste his time editing the links and I have to waste my time reporting them to him.
The maphack has no use in single player when you can simply type on screen, its meant for multiplayer. Also, I am sure he has it linked in game and people have downloaded it.
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He has been told many times nicely to take it down and he has refused and continues to indirectly link to his site on the forums. I think its time to set up the filtering. Lightbringer has to waste his time editing the links and I have to waste my time reporting them to him.
The maphack has no use in single player when you can simply type on screen, its meant for multiplayer. Also, I am sure he has it linked in game and people have downloaded it.
Mappack has buildhacks, so it can be pretty useful in single player. Don't believe there are cheat codes for that.
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He has been told many times nicely to take it down and he has refused and continues to indirectly link to his site on the forums. I think its time to set up the filtering. Lightbringer has to waste his time editing the links and I have to waste my time reporting them to him.
The maphack has no use in single player when you can simply type on screen, its meant for multiplayer. Also, I am sure he has it linked in game and people have downloaded it.
Mappack has buildhacks, so it can be pretty useful in single player. Don't believe there are cheat codes for that.
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if someone needs a buildhack to play against computers, I don't know what to tell you. Either way as mousetopher said in her awesome post,
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit"
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At this point, I'm just exercising my right to do whatever the fuck I want, while obeying server rules.
1. WarCrap has legitimate uses in offline, LAN, and other play
2. I am not encouraging anyone to hack and its clearly stated
3. Hackers are going to hack, and theyre going to get banned if they do so who cares, its such a small community, no one wants to get banned and besides why would you hack these days? No ones worried about their stats how stupid they are if they care about winning still
If iL says "remove WarCrap or we ban you from RU server and forums" then I will remove immediately. But so far its just "we dont like it"
You are overreaching trying to control everyone and everything. How many people are hacking now because I have WarCrap on my site? ZERO. Who cares. what a waste of time. If they hack, they get caught, they get banned. Why would anyone want to risk it.
If iL says "remove WarCrap or we ban you from RU server and forums" then I will remove immediately. But so far its just "we dont like it"
this is what makes me feel good about all this - a realization that
- Archer is not a man of his word
- he's only doing that to piss off as many people as possible while playing victim
Motives? unknown.
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At this point, I'm just exercising my right to do whatever the fuck I want, while obeying server rules.
1. WarCrap has legitimate uses in offline, LAN, and other play
2. I am not encouraging anyone to hack and its clearly stated
3. Hackers are going to hack, and theyre going to get banned if they do so who cares, its such a small community, no one wants to get banned and besides why would you hack these days? No ones worried about their stats how stupid they are if they care about winning still
If iL says "remove WarCrap or we ban you from RU server and forums" then I will remove immediately. But so far its just "we dont like it"
You are overreaching trying to control everyone and everything. How many people are hacking now because I have WarCrap on my site? ZERO. Who cares. what a waste of time. If they hack, they get caught, they get banned. Why would anyone want to risk it.
If iL says "remove WarCrap or we ban you from RU server and forums" then I will remove immediately. But so far its just "we dont like it"
this is what makes me feel good about all this - a realization that
- Archer is not a man of his word
- he's only doing that to piss off as many people as possible while playing victim
Motives? unknown.
Your chickens probably wonder the same thing about you as you rape em every night.
You hear urself? All the guy is doing is trying host a tourney, you people are being such assholes.
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hes being the asshole, he can take his hacks and shove them up his ass. If you ever played gow on USEast you would know how much of a problem hackers were especially in public games.
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit;"
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He has been told many times nicely to take it down and he has refused and continues to indirectly link to his site on the forums. I think its time to set up the filtering. Lightbringer has to waste his time editing the links and I have to waste my time reporting them to him.
The maphack has no use in single player when you can simply type on screen, its meant for multiplayer. Also, I am sure he has it linked in game and people have downloaded it.
Mappack has buildhacks, so it can be pretty useful in single player. Don't believe there are cheat codes for that.
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if someone needs a buildhack to play against computers, I don't know what to tell you. Either way as mousetopher said in her awesome post,
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit"
How is there a change in the level of harm? If a guy wants to hack they will....through a simple google search. Its clearly written that if use this program online you will be banned.
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hes being the asshole, he can take his hacks and shove them up his ass. If you ever played gow on USEast you would know how much of a problem hackers were especially in public games.
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit;"
Seems like you people are the ones that are being assholes to him. Ganging up on one guy, ohh congratz team assholes you prevented a guy from hosting a tourney.
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hes being the asshole, he can take his hacks and shove them up his ass. If you ever played gow on USEast you would know how much of a problem hackers were especially in public games.
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit;"
Seems like you people are the ones that are being assholes to him. Ganging up on one guy, ohh congratz team assholes you prevented a guy from hosting a tourney.
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How? Everyone welcomed his tourney with open arms and gladly support it as long as he removes the hacks.
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hes being the asshole, he can take his hacks and shove them up his ass. If you ever played gow on USEast you would know how much of a problem hackers were especially in public games.
"The bottom line is that the potential for harm by far outweighs the potential benefit;"
Seems like you people are the ones that are being assholes to him. Ganging up on one guy, ohh congratz team assholes you prevented a guy from hosting a tourney.
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How? Everyone welcomed his tourney with open arms and gladly support it as long as he removes the hacks.
Becuase you guys are overreacting over freakin something he has clearly stated NOT to use. As does the website when you go to download the client. You are smiting his whole tourney on something that he hasn't even been advertising.
Go back to LOL and leave the issues to people who actually play the game.
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so what if he puts not to use them, people will use them. nobody gives a shit about single player and the only thing it has that you cant do in single player is build hack
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so what if he puts not to use them, people will use them. nobody gives a shit about single player and the only thing it has that you cant do in single player is build hack
We label dont use them on the main site and noobs still do. So i really don't see the point of smiting his whole tourney over this.
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His tourney is most welcome. Everybody is happy about it. His website is great. Nobody has complained or smited his tourney. Our biggest problem is the hacks posted there. Nothing personal about him or customs.
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His tourney is most welcome. Everybody is happy about it. His website is great. Nobody has complained or smited his tourney. Our biggest problem is the hacks posted there. Nothing personal about him or customs.
You are smiting his tourney by deleting his bracket link where people can sign up.
If people want hacks they will just go to google and download it...people who know better won't even download it or just use it for single player. Just because it is on the site not like people will use it.
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You don't need to build hack in single player because you can just type Make it so
There is zero reason to host hacks on that website
He is being stubborn because he doesn't like being told what to do, but he's hosting a hack that harms the server and everyone playing on it. He should take it down not only because we're telling him but also because it's the clear right thing to do.
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You don't need to build hack in single player because you can just type Make it so
There is zero reason to host hacks on that website
He is being stubborn because he doesn't like being told what to do, but he's hosting a hack that harms the server and everyone playing on it. He should take it down not only because we're telling him but also because it's the clear right thing to do.
Uh no build hack is completely different than make it so code.
Its got a notice on it, which is adequate.
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Evil you have an opinion about what is "adequate" but nearly everybody here aka "community" thinks otherwise. I will again state I'm all for him doing his stuffs and even participating, but he has to at least make an effort and realise people (community) do not want hacks to be linked anywhere.
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Evil you have an opinion about what is "adequate" but nearly everybody here aka "community" thinks otherwise. I will again state I'm all for him doing his stuffs and even participating, but he has to at least make an effort and realise people (community) do not want hacks to be linked anywhere.
Well you have to realize that if people want to hack they will, doesn't matter if it is posted on a site or they go to google and download one. The site has a disclaimer not to use it online, enough said. Ban the use of search engines then if you don't want hacks linked anywhere.
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Well you have to realize that if people want to hack they will
Well you have to realize that if we want to punish people for linking it on their website, we will :]
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Well you have to realize that if people want to hack they will
Well you have to realize that if we want to punish people for linking it on their website, we will :]
Thought u didn't read my posts? You chicken molestor.
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I like that reason where Archers said he promote hacks because he like to play vision with his friend?? Since when they can't legitly vis??? Did i need hacks to vis someone? Lol
If everyone agreed on vis, why not just give vis??
Archers is totaly the biggest joke of war2.
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I like that reason where Archers said he promote hacks because he like to play vision with his friend?? Since when they can't legitly vis??? Did i need hacks to vis someone? Lol
If everyone agreed on vis, why not just give vis??
Archers is totaly the biggest joke of war2.
lol good point, just give vision. owned by EQ.
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I like that reason where Archers said he promote hacks because he like to play vision with his friend?? Since when they can't legitly vis??? Did i need hacks to vis someone? Lol
If everyone agreed on vis, why not just give vis??
Archers is totaly the biggest joke of war2.
Can someone translate what this guy just wrote? His english horrible or he can't type worth a Dam.
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I like that reason where Archers said he promote hacks because he like to play vision with his friend?? Since when they can't legitly vis??? Did i need hacks to vis someone? Lol
If everyone agreed on vis, why not just give vis??
Archers is totaly the biggest joke of war2.
lol good point, just give vision. owned by EQ.
But they're playing against comps, duh!
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I like that reason where Archers said he promote hacks because he like to play vision with his friend?? Since when they can't legitly vis??? Did i need hacks to vis someone? Lol
If everyone agreed on vis, why not just give vis??
Archers is totaly the biggest joke of war2.
lol good point, just give vision. owned by EQ.
But they're playing against comps, duh!
hm?
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this thread is ridiculous and spammy.
I say if archer doesn't want to follow up n take the hacks down (which is against the rules and his own word), a definite action should be taken AFTER his tournament (why sabotage it, people already signed up). Which will result in his website filter @ the forum & lock of his bot accounts (having link to the hack page in both nickname and description...)
I mean - that should be done. Im not a fan of death law, if it exists, it should be followed
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this thread is ridiculous and spammy.
I say if archer doesn't want to follow up n take the hacks down (which is against the rules and his own word), a definite action should be taken AFTER his tournament (why sabotage it, people already signed up). Which will result in his website filter @ the forum & lock of his bot accounts (having link to the hack page in both nickname and description...)
I mean - that should be done. Im not a fan of death law, if it exists, it should be followed
He musta stole your lunch money as a kid huh? Lmfao, you act as if he is Marti18.
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you are the most worthless poster of war2.ru
go away.
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check his in game profile as well, probably in there
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you are the most worthless poster of war2.ru
go away.
Alot of space in that post, that must the same void in your head where your brain is suppose to be [emoji54]
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