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Title: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 09, 2024, 04:10:15 PM
Beating KnitterHemd in 2020

4-1 + 5-4

Someone build in the games, so it miss a game between my third victory and his second vitory.

(https://i.imgur.com/ivW50gb.png)

KnitterHemd own me a master tag, but he still refuse to admit and keep lying about me.

Please watch the script and found the game that miss.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Knitter on December 09, 2024, 04:19:42 PM
Hi Nox,

As you can see, I beat you 4-3 back then.
Master Tag is Bo7, you lost.

I still wish you all the best.
I have realised that talking to you is useless.

Get help, as soon as you feel better we can play together again.
Until then, like many others, I won't respond to your provocations and will ignore you.

All the best.

( oh yes this was 4 years ago... ;-) )

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 09, 2024, 04:28:05 PM
Here the complete story.

In 2020 knitter and i decide to do a challenge for the master tag, at that time, knitter got the master tag, so im the challenger.

We do a series and i beat him 4-1, feeling bad for him i tell him i let him another chance and we can keep playing..

untill we find a winner, so we keep playing and he win 3 straight in a row that bring us 4-4, while i win the last game for 5-4.

After that win i tell to him, you know what bro, its all good you can keep the master tag. Dont worry.

He tell me thanks bro your a nice guy i will not forgot.

After some month 00steve tell me that knitterhemd stole money peoples in lan tournament.

I ask knitter if its true and he start to insult me and tell me its not my buisness.

I tell him to not speak at me like this and remember what i did for him and i leave.

He desapear for some weeks and reappear a while later in my games saying ( Hi bitchs )

I straight ban him and came to forum asking for my master tag, but no one took me seriously.

Sadly after 5 years he keep lying about it, and even call me the liar, so i want my master tag.

I know you guys have scripts of the entire games, even the ones cancel by bugs are peoples that build in it.

Please found that game and tell truth to everyone, this guy is a liar and deserve to be expose for what he is.

Be honnest and just do your job.

Thanks alot.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 09, 2024, 04:31:15 PM
One story is more awesome than the other :)
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Shotgun on December 09, 2024, 04:47:26 PM
3-0d what a newb
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 09, 2024, 05:00:19 PM
Knitterhemd keep lying to peoples that i stole money from my father from a debt with the hell angels after they broke my legs.

While in fact it was a prank that i organize with GanzTheLegend.

I was saying to Ganz the legend that peoples in here could believe everything we told them, ( exemple that stupid debt story ) so i was not surprise when they believe peoples dont hacks or smurf.

To make sure peoples will realize it was a prank, i said my debt collector was '' Marc Bergevin ''it was kinda an easter eggs, but Marc Bergevin at that time was the General Manager of our hockey team in quebec '' The Montreal Canadiens ''

But he keep lying about it it while in fact hes the only one who still money peoples in here.

Here the tread: https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=593.0

Here some comments with GanzTheLegend in private

GanzTheLegend: ok I am ready to laugh lol.
GanzTheLegend: blid has fallen for itlol
GanzTheLegend: Hmmm, I think most of them are too stupid to ever figure it out unless we make it even more obvious.
GanzTheLegend: lol I PM'ed mousetopher trying to convince her to aplogize to you, lets see if she does.

Me getting warned on the forum after they realize how they fell in the prank.

Equinox,

You have received a warning for excessive flaming in regards to this thread, requiring posts to be split from the main server.war2.ru board:
EQ & Win flame war.

If you want to flame another player, please start a new thread in the Flame Wars board or do it via PM.

Regards,
The Warcraft II Forum Team.

Here the trainer in question Marc Bergevin lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Bergevin

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Knitter on December 09, 2024, 05:40:13 PM
here's a tip, see a doctor.
you are mentally ill and i am very serious.
Go to a clinic and get healed.

I mean no offence, but I can't have a conversation with someone who is ill.
Seek help, I'm not angry with you, but just stop.

Maybe an admin can just ban him so he can come to his senses.
Someone has to help him.

I'm out, I'm not going to say anything else about this.
Again I'm not mad at you, get a doctor to help you, I'll see you again sometime. !
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 09, 2024, 05:48:40 PM
You may not realize but if this server is so bad it's because of peoples like you and admins that have always protect peoples like you.

Youre a liar, you have lie your entire life on this server, you have lie about stoling peoples of this community 2 times, you lie about my victory over you, you lie about me stoling my father, you lie every times you can. But i dont blame you, because youre the one who must seek a doctor for being a mythomaniac. No in reality i blame admins for letting this things happening while they have the power to stop it by saying the truth.

They never said the truth, they dont cares, they prefere to let peoples hacks, lie, swap and share account, they just prefere to let peoples fight themself instead of just saying the truth.

For god sake, Someone find the games script and stop letting this coward lies everywheres.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 09, 2024, 06:58:05 PM
I leave to play a bit of final fantasy 8 and come back here to see the warcraft 2 RU lore expanding , this all needs a YT video about the immense lore this server has its too good to be left obscure and unheard of like this.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 10, 2024, 02:11:39 AM
(https://media1.tenor.com/m/zlpMJup_KgUAAAAd/this-gonna-be-good-seat.gif)

1 2 3 5

awesome math!
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Shotgun on December 10, 2024, 07:25:41 AM
Theres an easy way to settle this, set a date for a bo7 series in a weeks time. Tyats how real men would deal with this  8) 8)
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 08:52:42 AM
If we want it to be as manly as possible send both to ukraine in an open empty field hand both snipers and let a sniper duel happen.

Or if we want to be as accurate to the game as possible dress one in plate armor and a sword , the other gets steroids and a workout plan to resemble an orc then paint him green give him some half assed armor a horned Mongolian helmet and an axe and settle it again in Ukraine.

Or just take the least expensive way and listen to shotgun why would you name yourself shotgun tho? Don't you fear being taken away by government for being a illegal weapon?
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 10, 2024, 09:46:40 AM
and listen to shotgun why would you name yourself shotgun tho? Don't you fear being taken away by government for being a illegal weapon?
Because of such nonsense you start to spew some kind of heresy :) And you also say something about "Russians", like, they are toxic. Funny, funny.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 10:33:51 AM
and listen to shotgun why would you name yourself shotgun tho? Don't you fear being taken away by government for being a illegal weapon?
Because of such nonsense you start to spew some kind of heresy :) And you also say something about "Russians", like, they are toxic. Funny, funny.


What heresy? Where? , oh and yeah its proven worldwide russians aren't very welcoming to new players is every russian acts like that?  Of course not.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Shotgun on December 10, 2024, 11:41:37 AM
If we want it to be as manly as possible send both to ukraine in an open empty field hand both snipers and let a sniper duel happen.

Or if we want to be as accurate to the game as possible dress one in plate armor and a sword , the other gets steroids and a workout plan to resemble an orc then paint him green give him some half assed armor a horned Mongolian helmet and an axe and settle it again in Ukraine.

Or just take the least expensive way and listen to shotgun why would you name yourself shotgun tho? Don't you fear being taken away by government for being a illegal weapon?
Down Syndrome Alert
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 12:00:06 PM
If we want it to be as manly as possible send both to ukraine in an open empty field hand both snipers and let a sniper duel happen.

Or if we want to be as accurate to the game as possible dress one in plate armor and a sword , the other gets steroids and a workout plan to resemble an orc then paint him green give him some half assed armor a horned Mongolian helmet and an axe and settle it again in Ukraine.

Or just take the least expensive way and listen to shotgun why would you name yourself shotgun tho? Don't you fear being taken away by government for being a illegal weapon?
Down Syndrome Alert

I don't think people with down syndrome can login an account and type like I do.

What sort of down syndrome people you met in your life to come to such conclusions?
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: ARMilitar on December 10, 2024, 12:37:56 PM
Well, we understood what you wanted to say with your comment. Another thing is that the mention of Ukraine seems to me personally inappropriate and in some sense even offensive.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 12:47:54 PM
Well, we understood what you wanted to say with your comment. Another thing is that the mention of Ukraine seems to me personally inappropriate and in some sense even offensive.

Yeah I considered not mentioning Ukraine I know it can be a heavy topic for some people but I went with it anyway.

Its a funny answer from shotgun like I seen autistic , schizophrenic , "take your pills" used as insults but down syndrome? Nah that's new
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 10, 2024, 01:32:58 PM
Theres an easy way to settle this, set a date for a bo7 series in a weeks time. Tyats how real men would deal with this  8) 8)

I will not play this bad human ever again, i already beat him, i dont have to beat him twice, period.

If Admins dont want to do their job its ok, i dont cares, im use to it anyway, he can keep something he have never deserve in first place.

But they could at least tell the truth and say everyone hes the liar.

I know they have the data base of the games.

In the past, it was call status report if im not wrong, we were able to verify bugged games or who did build in our games, this data base had 10 years of data at least, it was on the official website, but for some reason iL remove it.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 10, 2024, 01:53:52 PM
oh and yeah its proven worldwide russians aren't very welcoming to new players
Who proved it? Who proved it "all over the world"? Was there some certified research on this topic? Which was then recognized all over the world? What are you talking about?

Please, don't be like Equinox and other guys who try to slander someone without any evidence.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 02:10:08 PM
oh and yeah its proven worldwide russians aren't very welcoming to new players
Who proved it? Who proved it "all over the world"? Was there some certified research on this topic? Which was then recognized all over the world? What are you talking about?

Please, don't be like Equinox and other guys who try to slander someone without any evidence.


I meant "worldwide" is a decent chunk of gamers have past experiences with russian players and its not positive.

Ok I'm gonna be fair and give the benefit of the doubt that not all russians are like this which is true not all of them.

However judging from my experience and my friends experience russians tend to be closed off to non-russians which can come off a bit toxic at times.

I tried to get into DOTA wanting to experience the legendary map by myself each time I would join a DOTA game I would get kicked for one reason or another

This is how convos would go "u have map?" I get asked I answer "no" instead of handing me a link its instant kick.

Case 2: " u know how to play?" Im honest so I answer "no" (keep in mind I want to genuinely play and not troll) answer? KICK.

Heck sometimes I would get kicked for no reason at all.

But how do you know they are russian panda? You may ask , and the answer is they speak russian when im in lobby , and I usually check where are the players from DOTA players are mostly russians or Mongols.

So with such bad attitude towards a new player how would I learn how to play if every freaking lobby kicks me? But you can say "but panda toxicity isn't exclusive for russians" and yeah that's true I played with russians who weren't hostile or close minded to noobs which is why I stated not all are like this.

I know generalizing is a sign of ignorance but you can't help it sometimes because it can be an agitating or frustrating experience.

Oh and I tried to play Counter strike in a russian server , they kept voice chatting and their voices are more loud than the weapons themselves (if you played counter strike you would know nothing is more loud than the ak47  sound).

So yes there is a toxic attitude coming from russian players , I found serbians to be more nice infact my best times are with serbian friends  why are some serbs so nice? Scandinavians for example are always open minded and very wholesome people , Americans can be shakey but overall ok , latinos well I better reserve my thoughts on them because im so fed up with them , south east Asians are also ok.

Its a trait that has been associated with russian players it doesn't apply to all but from my experience a majority wasn't very nice people to play with.

I know you are russian and so far I seen no negative attitude coming from you , my prescriptive isn't stuck in its place and it can change based on experience.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 10, 2024, 02:25:03 PM
oh and yeah its proven worldwide russians aren't very welcoming to new players
Who proved it? Who proved it "all over the world"? Was there some certified research on this topic? Which was then recognized all over the world? What are you talking about?

Please, don't be like Equinox and other guys who try to slander someone without any evidence.

There one thing we can clearly agree, me and this guy are clearly not the same.

Now tell me one thing i have said where i have no evidence, when i said peoples were using different client to hacks the game, everyone was calling me crazy, then what did happen next, iL confirm it was true, when i said ragner was hacking sniper me, everyone was calling me crazy, then what did happen next? Ragner confirm himself it was true, when i said u8 is hacking, everyone call me crazy, but for this one i dont need any evidence because he is the evidence himself.

Here the definition of an hacker.

'' Game hacking refers to the unauthorized modification or manipulation of a video game's code, data, or runtime behavior to gain an unfair advantage or alter the gaming experience. This can include activities like cheating, exploiting vulnerabilities, using third-party software, or modifying game files. Game hacking is generally against the terms of service of most games and can lead to penalties such as account suspension or banning. It undermines fair play and the integrity of multiplayer games.''

Not my fault if you guys want to protect hackers, cheaters, account swapper, liars at all cost, you guys have always did it as far as i can remember.

But i understand why you guys do it, because you have let grow this culture that tora talk about, and if we had to ban all the hackers liars cheaters and peoples who swapp and share account, we will had to ban almost 90% of this server.

But dont forgot it's administration fault if we are now at this point, because like i said, you never did anything to try to show the exemple and stop this behavior, and instead to adminiting your faults you prefere to act like everything was a conspiracy and if i was crazy.

You guys want to make me believe the only hacker we caught on this server in 20 years is that poor newbee dellam that nobody cares, yeah right lol.

Good job, very creative!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 10, 2024, 02:55:32 PM
However judging from my experience and my friends experience russians tend to be closed off to non-russians which can come off a bit toxic at times.
Usually it's because many Russians don't know English, which is considered the world language. So it's much harder to build communication with people from other countries. And this is in no way a sign of "toxicity". Imagine if the world language was... say, Chinese. I suppose many English-speaking guys would also find it much harder to communicate with the world that "all speaks Chinese". I can also assume that in this case they would unite around the same English-speaking groups. And that's normal.

I meant "worldwide" is a decent chunk of gamers have past experiences with russian players and its not positive.
I know generalizing is a sign of ignorance but you can't help it sometimes because it can be an agitating or frustrating experience.
You do understand that this game can be played by two people, right?..

For example, the English are "considered" to be rather prim and arrogant people. However, I have met Choppy in games. This old guy has always been kind to other players, was always positive and I have never seen him arrogant. I have never seen him put himself above anyone else.

The Spanish are considered to be very religious people. But I know several atheists.
The French are very loving, they love wine.
The Germans are precise, calculating and have a military bearing, they love beer.
The Russians are lazy and love vodka. I may be lazy, but I am an absolute teetotaler.
The Jews love money...
Etc.

You can approach it from another angle:
Well, in some circles, Americans are considered stupid people. But is that true? I don't think so. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, at least that they are still the leading power in the world. The stupid wouldn't be able to do that.

China was recently considered a country that sells outright low-quality crap. And now, literally before our eyes, Chinese technology is literally soaring in quality, ahead of some traditionally technological countries.

. . .

You project your personal experience and raise it to an almost absolute value. Thus, you are terribly slandering. And if Equinox, at least, accuses specific people - then you are starting to accuse (based on your personal experience) an entire nation! In my opinion, this is much worse and this is what constitutes toxicity. I will give a very crude example: Equinox kills several specific people, and you kill an entire nation. Think about it.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 10, 2024, 03:02:06 PM
In my personal opinion, the community of the game "dota" is itself quite disgusting and toxic. In my opinion, it is a gathering of inadequates. Not to mention that I really don't like the game itself.

Therefore, I consider your conversation about dota irrelevant. "You can rarely find gold in shit" (с)
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Knitter on December 10, 2024, 03:19:12 PM
oh and yeah its proven worldwide russians aren't very welcoming to new players
Who proved it? Who proved it "all over the world"? Was there some certified research on this topic? Which was then recognized all over the world? What are you talking about?

Please, don't be like Equinox and other guys who try to slander someone without any evidence.

There one thing we can clearly agree, me and this guy are clearly not the same.

Now tell me one thing i have said where i have no evidence, when i said peoples were using different client to hacks the game, everyone was calling me crazy, then what did happen next, iL confirm it was true, when i said ragner was hacking sniper me, everyone was calling me crazy, then what did happen next? Ragner confirm himself it was true, when i said u8 is hacking, everyone call me crazy, but for this one i dont need any evidence because he is the evidence himself.

Here the definition of an hacker.

'' Game hacking refers to the unauthorized modification or manipulation of a video game's code, data, or runtime behavior to gain an unfair advantage or alter the gaming experience. This can include activities like cheating, exploiting vulnerabilities, using third-party software, or modifying game files. Game hacking is generally against the terms of service of most games and can lead to penalties such as account suspension or banning. It undermines fair play and the integrity of multiplayer games.''

Not my fault if you guys want to protect hackers, cheaters, account swapper, liars at all cost, you guys have always did it as far as i can remember.

But i understand why you guys do it, because you have let grow this culture that tora talk about, and if we had to ban all the hackers liars cheaters and peoples who swapp and share account, we will had to ban almost 90% of this server.

But dont forgot it's administration fault if we are now at this point, because like i said, you never did anything to try to show the exemple and stop this behavior, and instead to adminiting your faults you prefere to act like everything was a conspiracy and if i was crazy.

You guys want to make me believe the only hacker we caught on this server in 20 years is that poor newbee dellam that nobody cares, yeah right lol.

Good job, very creative!  :thumbsup:



wow that's interesting to read from a hacker.
Equinox you have been convicted several times of hacking.

And now you're complaining about others again.
Again, look for the fault in yourself.
YOU are sick... everyone knows it.
you are possibly the biggest hacker on the entire server.
U8t3io3p streams every day, is a clean player, just fine.
But you've been using warcrap for years.

Get help, you still believe what you're writing.

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 10, 2024, 03:22:45 PM
Im sure equniox never used black2pink replays, warvideo or warlatency before players moved to Ru



Oh wait.....
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Knitter on December 10, 2024, 03:25:21 PM
Im sure equniox never used black2pink or warlatency before players moved to Ru



Oh wait.....


he used warcrap for many years. back on europe he was known as a huge hacker.
Dont listen to him like you said before, lets just ignore him.
He needs medical help.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 03:31:35 PM
However judging from my experience and my friends experience russians tend to be closed off to non-russians which can come off a bit toxic at times.
Usually it's because many Russians don't know English, which is considered the world language. So it's much harder to build communication with people from other countries. And this is in no way a sign of "toxicity". Imagine if the world language was... say, Chinese. I suppose many English-speaking guys would also find it much harder to communicate with the world that "all speaks Chinese". I can also assume that in this case they would unite around the same English-speaking groups. And that's normal.

I meant "worldwide" is a decent chunk of gamers have past experiences with russian players and its not positive.
I know generalizing is a sign of ignorance but you can't help it sometimes because it can be an agitating or frustrating experience.
You do understand that this game can be played by two people, right?..

For example, the English are "considered" to be rather prim and arrogant people. However, I have met Choppy in games. This old guy has always been kind to other players, was always positive and I have never seen him arrogant. I have never seen him put himself above anyone else.

The Spanish are considered to be very religious people. But I know several atheists.
The French are very loving, they love wine.
The Germans are precise, calculating and have a military bearing, they love beer.
The Russians are lazy and love vodka. I may be lazy, but I am an absolute teetotaler.
The Jews love money...
Etc.

You can approach it from another angle:
Well, in some circles, Americans are considered stupid people. But is that true? I don't think so. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, at least that they are still the leading power in the world. The stupid wouldn't be able to do that.

China was recently considered a country that sells outright low-quality crap. And now, literally before our eyes, Chinese technology is literally soaring in quality, ahead of some traditionally technological countries.

. . .

You project your personal experience and raise it to an almost absolute value. Thus, you are terribly slandering. And if Equinox, at least, accuses specific people - then you are starting to accuse (based on your personal experience) an entire nation! In my opinion, this is much worse and this is what constitutes toxicity. I will give a very crude example: Equinox kills several specific people, and you kill an entire nation. Think about it.



Ok I think you are misunderstanding something I said "not all russians are like this" and yes of course I will make conclusions based on my experiences thats what we humans usually do.

Of course my conclusions aren't the most correct I can be quite biased due to previous bad times I had.

And no im not "stereotyping" I said generally I met people from around the world some toxic some aren't.

AND YES that's what I was gonna say that most russians lack English speaking skills but I forgot to mention it.

I think I came off a bit as a racist towards russians? Well in that I didn't mean to be that way  , I know what. Russians are going through these days on the net getting usually called "orcs" and slandered due to unfortunate events near their western borders.

So yes you can say my experience with russians isn't very good does that mean am I right that russians are annoying as heck and can't shut up when playing counter strike? Not necessarily I might have to reconsider my stance on russian players online , I will also have to play on this server to judge if its any good.

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 10, 2024, 03:48:42 PM
Ok I think you are misunderstanding something I said "not all russians are like this" and yes of course I will make conclusions based on my experiences thats what we humans usually do.
Ok, one more example.
For example, I will say something stupid, that "Indians eat other people because of the lack of food in India." But I will also add the phrase: "but not all Indians are like that."
What happens? That the "general coloring", the characteristic of the people becomes such that they are almost all cannibals. Thus, by spreading this phrase, I will be telling the world exactly that they are cannibals. Will this be considered fair to them?

You see, when you say that "not all of them are like that" - you automatically imply that most of them are like that. Do you finally understand?

I think I came off a bit as a racist towards russians?
You can't be racist towards Russians, because "Russians" are not a race, but you could say they are a nation (although this would not be entirely correct in translation).
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 03:59:54 PM
Ok I think you are misunderstanding something I said "not all russians are like this" and yes of course I will make conclusions based on my experiences thats what we humans usually do.
Ok, one more example.
For example, I will say something stupid, that "Indians eat other people because of the lack of food in India." But I will also add the phrase: "but not all Indians are like that."
What happens? That the "general coloring", the characteristic of the people becomes such that they are almost all cannibals. Thus, by spreading this phrase, I will be telling the world exactly that they are cannibals. Will this be considered fair to them?

You see, when you say that "not all of them are like that" - you automatically imply that most of them are like that. Do you finally understand?

I think I came off a bit as a racist towards russians?
You can't be racist towards Russians, because "Russians" are not a race, but you could say they are a nation (although this would not be entirely correct in translation).


Well that's why I said "not all of them"  , thus based on my "experience"  the majority of russians  I met were like that does this make sense now? Some people may agree cuz they also didn't have very good time around russians other will disagree and say "you just were around few bad apples" which is a fine statement since you can't possibly run into every russian gamer out there , maybe you are right about the nature of the game effecting the player base this was on my mind the other day about cultures effecting how people behave online and how their environment effects their actions online.

Well does it really matter in this context if russians are a nation or not since I meant the russian gamers.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 10, 2024, 04:12:29 PM
Im sure equniox never used black2pink replays, warvideo or warlatency before players moved to Ru



Oh wait.....

Ive never used any softwares that it was not release by admnisatration no.

When i started used black to pink everyone knew what it was, everyone could dl the plug in on forum, it was not an hiding software against the community, it was very popular and very use by almost the entire community.

There was some peoples who has always claim it was an hack the same way they claim HD its an hack today, do i say HD is a hack? No.. Not at all, it's only them, because they dont understand the difference between an hack and an update, they think the game most stay the same as it original form and if you change something it's an hack, but its not if admins release it as an official updates for everyone. In your case, you have use of personal modifications that have never been release as an official update from administration.

Also i have never used warvideo in my life, ive always use war2 insight, and war2 insight have always been push by admnistration on official website and forum, it was also create by a tons of different admins.

Also war2 latency have always been in the official folder of warcraft 2 ru edition.

The only thing is war2 latency (the old one) have never work as intended, it always have been a scam, a scam for other hackers to keep using different client so they cant get caught of hacking, confirm by il, untill they bring anti-hack and you have been get caught and il claim it was a false report and remove the anti-hack, but it was not a false report at all, we all know it, for my part, ive never use these different clients anyway, i have always use the official client of war2ru and the anti-hack while it was there, so here again, it dont concern me.

While in your case, you clearly did, here the proof again.

(https://i.imgur.com/uHALuEi.png)

Not only you used rigged hacking client, but you also use rigged hacking value report aka source codes data files.

You can say whatever you want, but pink has never been consider as an hiding update in the game... But in the other side, blue sky color has never been out as an official plug in... So way before they integrate blue sky into the installtion options, you where using it before everyone can have it..

I remember around 2012 you already had the bluesky color, probably even before, but no one else on the server had acces to it.

Same for hotkeys, how much years you have been using custom hotkeys before everyone, if we got hotkeys today its exactly because of you, because no one could have hotkeys other than you and i have make sure everyone could have it, if it was not of me, you will probably be the only one who has custom hotkeys today and maybe some secret peoples of your personal group.

Same with the names on your units, you have been the first to have this plug in..

Everything you did, it was for your personal purpose since the beggining, never i have use anything for my personal purpose, everything i used or use to this day was release to the entire community as the opposite of you.

And something you must understand, its not only about what you use, its about the fact of confidence, when your allow to do whatever the hell you want, what else can you do that we dont know.. By allowing you or peoples like you to modify the game data, it broke the confidence to everyone else in the community, there things we CAN see, and there things we CAN'T see. What else can you do that we dont see?? You want to tell me nothing?? But how can i know?? How can i have confidence when your allow to do whatever you want anyway? Thats the point, right here! You had the opportunitys for years to fix all of this by telling everyone that you did mystakes by editing the game for your personal purpose and tell everyone that we should not do that and your sorry for these mystakes and you would not do it again. You had the opportunity to tell everyone that we must ask administration if we want something added to the game and respect their work. You had opportunitys to take the right decisions for you and for everyone else in that community.. But for years you have act like a child and want to be the special one with special treatment. You are the only one to blame today.

It's not too late to do the right thing, like i said, i dont hate you, but i will never act like something your not, you are not a legit player, you are an hacker by pure definition that show the bad exemple and encourage that behavior to other, old scool players and also new players.. You have edited and modify code source and data files of this game for your personal purpose even if some peoples think its not a big deal, its not about how big the deal is, but about what it mean at the end, and untill you will admit your mystake, i will consider you what your truely are, an hacker.

But you will not, because you dont want to be wrong and prefere to act like if i am the crazy one and im too stoopid to edit the data files myself, but guess what, what you do here, it will clearly be consider hacking in any other games of the world in 2024, but here, your a special one, oh, what we would not do for our special u8.

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 10, 2024, 07:04:23 PM
Tl dr for everyone:

U8 hack cause he open mpq

Equniox is clear cause he only hacked when he was 13 years old, we can forgive him


Everyone belive you eq  :poo:
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 10, 2024, 07:08:23 PM
However judging from my experience and my friends experience russians tend to be closed off to non-russians which can come off a bit toxic at times.
Usually it's because many Russians don't know English, which is considered the world language. So it's much harder to build communication with people from other countries. And this is in no way a sign of "toxicity". Imagine if the world language was... say, Chinese. I suppose many English-speaking guys would also find it much harder to communicate with the world that "all speaks Chinese". I can also assume that in this case they would unite around the same English-speaking groups. And that's normal.

So this is what you think about me? You think im racist and i hate russian? Because i already said these kind of stuff too.. I also think that russian on this server have tendancy to be close inside their own circle, you said its because they dont speak english, but its not true at all, some of them talk pretty good english or maybe bad, but they still can speak it, but sometime, they just start to speak russian like no else in the game or the channel was there.. I also dont understand why this server has been call War2 *RU* like if war2 belong to russian... You know why i have never join war2 USA, because i dont think it belong to american either and i dint want to particpate in a server where it look like its russia vs usa, i was here since the biginning, i stayed here period, not because it was russia or usa.. War2 belong to the world... War 2 belong to everyone... And naming this server war2ru just close door to every other nations of the world because they can taught its exclusive to russian peoples.. Do you really think i hate russia or russian peoples?? I actually love russia and russians peoples, and if im mad at russian on this server sometime, its exactly because i feel excluded.

I dont cares about this guy because he became out of no where and speak alot while no one know who he is, but i think hes actully right on something, and i dont say RUSSIA or russian peoples are like this, but clearly russian from this server have tendacy to make me feel excluded since alot of years.

The only russian with who i can have decent discussion sometime are Ragner, Extasey, ArMilitar and Hurt i would say, maybe spb, even if he dont speak at all, but in general the others, they dont speak to me at all if its not to insult me.

And before im done, i want to add something, it's not because i dont agree with the name of this server and i think some russians live in their own circle, that i am not gratefull, if it was not of the russians, there will probably be no war2 community at all anymore, i will always appreciate what the russians did for warcraft II, we may desagree on alot of things, but not on this one, i will never desagree, take my words as the honnest person i am and always have been.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 10, 2024, 07:11:12 PM
Man I gotta stop reading your comments nox they remind of those conspiracy theorists I used to hang out with in discord huuh how times changed....anyway what sort of hacking is this? Yeah I know you can replace models my friend said he used it in MP once in wc3 to make readability very easy like changing grunts to question marks or something silly so you instantly recognize it.

But for data? Well what data? If you ever modded MPQ you would know game crashes if unit data is messed with like stats say I made footmen have 520 health compared to original 420 yeah game crashes otherwise you would see people running around with blademasters with 400 agility XD.

But for warcraft 2 since it uses MPQ same must be applied to it yes you can edit visuals , maybe colors (haven't tried this personally so im taking nox claim as true) and if I'm not mistaken even audio (be funny if somebody replace death sounds with moans).

For hotkeys I dunno man I mean looking at other games hotkeys can be edited from inside the game or outside depending on game , games like age of mythology can be edited to have players construct certain chunks of walls this chunk is regularly not available normally , others use some UI plugins that allow you to see certain stats UI usually doesn't have.

Now it depends where hotkeys are in warcraft 2 are they accessible to the general public? How accessible it is? At this point if everybody can edit hotkeys is it hacking anymore?  I don't think so

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Harrywangs on December 10, 2024, 08:14:00 PM
Need a TLDR for this entire thread. Also, no take backs. You won but gave icon back to him. It is his now. Not yours to take back. It's like if you give me $100 and then ask for it back in a future time, after I upset you. The world does not work like that.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Shotgun on December 10, 2024, 09:16:58 PM
Lots of hackers here
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 10, 2024, 10:53:38 PM
Need a TLDR for this entire thread. Also, no take backs. You won but gave icon back to him. It is his now. Not yours to take back. It's like if you give me $100 and then ask for it back in a future time, after I upset you. The world does not work like that.

Im sorry but i dont necessairly agree with that, when i let him keep my master tag it was for 2 reason.

First, it's because at the time i was the one hosting the master tag challenge, so i dint want to have peoples saying i abbuse of my position to have one.

The second reason is link to the first one, because i just want to be nice with him and act like if that series never happen, so i let him keep it.

At the end, these master tag have a main purpose and it's to be deserve, and since he lose, he dont deserve it at all.

Plus, hes a liar, even worst, he call me the liar, and even worst you guys refuse to tell truth and let him keep the lies going on.

He should definitly be strip of it.

PS: Dont forgot why im not leading the master challenge anymore, because you guys want to force me to give back a master tag to lone when he lose 7-1 vs baraman because he said he was drunk, even worst you guys have accuse me of giving the master tag to baraman because we were both in the TD clan and accuse me of favoritism while in fact he just lose 7-1 and i refuse to fall into some stoopid argument, if it was a valid argument everyone should just say they are drunk everytime they lose or say wathever they want at this point, the fact that you are drunk or not should not be the fault of the player who win, the moment you accept a challenge and lose its your entire fault, drunk or not, but here again you guys force me to do things i dint want and i just left because i dint want to be part of sush bad decisions.

So your good faith is not something that make sens for me.

And while im on it, your exemple of 100$ is not good, because the 100$ is between me and you, but the master tag is something that belong to the community, so when someone dont deserve a master tag, its not about me and about my own feeling, but about the respect of the entire community, he dont deserve it, period.

My main issue is not about the fact that i dont have a master tag, is about the fact that he got one while he dont deserve it, the same way Ragner offert me numerous time a free master tag and i refuse it because i dint beat no one for it and i also dont deserve it.

I just want him to be strip of it, because he dont deserve it, and thats the truth, thats all.

But for you, it's just fun to see me unhappy, thats why your covering him and keep the lies goin on, plus, these master tag dont mean anything at all for you, your just giving them to whoever you want, but giving a master tag at someone who stole money from peoples of our community? Thats a good one. 
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Shotgun on December 10, 2024, 11:49:52 PM
Any GMs on?
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Dudakurten on December 11, 2024, 01:10:08 AM
Any GMs on?

Can be a half-way GM?
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 11, 2024, 03:47:27 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/HdCtwBR/1b9bqc.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KwD24bB)



 :hug:
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 04:50:15 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/HdCtwBR/1b9bqc.jpg) (https://ibb.co/KwD24bB)



 :hug:

Thats why i cant take you as an honnest person, you act like these medias who take a short part of a story and cut only the part they need to make someone look bad.

You should also explain the entire history of this account and this post instead of just trying to make it look like the way you want to make it look.

This account and this post is clearly coming from a time where i was fighting with the admnistration for these old hacking clients from 2000 era, these hacking clients from 25 years ago full of vunerability to our server here, these hacking clients that have never been fix by the way and are still use today by peoples like you! Peoples who act like they have reason to use these client, while in fact the only reason that they truly have is hacking the game easier without being caught.

This is clearly coming from a time where admins was literally banning me everyday, for saying what i think in a time where i was fighting to make these old hacking clients close for our server.

So what did i do, i said that i will hack into games because anyway this is what they let peoples do, so why hiding about it??! Lets just all hacks??! Its not like if i was hacking, its like if i want to show them that i am mad at this point and i just will hack openly because anyway everyone hacks here, so lets just hack at this point. If the point was hacking, i will not write a shit at all and i would just hack period, it was not like if i want to hack, it was like if i want to make a point.

You see u8, its gonna be a week we argue each other, i have explain you in full details with no lies at all and being honnest as much i can do with you, not from hating point, just from a legit perception, and what did you do the entire week as defense? Always lie and trying to put me back as your level... Instead of explaining why you use different clients that allow hacking, instead of explaning why you edit the mpq, the data files and whatever you do, instead of explaining why there an unknow code source in the anti hack that you have provoke yourself, instead of explaining whatever you can explain like a grown man person, you always get back to your lies and your insults and try to act like if i was worst than you.

But im not, its not true, i hacked when i was something like 13 years old, i hacked when i was a kid dude, i hacked for somes months, someting like 6 months, i hacked when i was probably not even realising the impact of it... I hacked because i download a maphack on google like everyone would do at this time and age. I admit what i did, i said sorry for it, and there been a long long time normal peoples have forgive me, because they are not like you.

You?? You hacked while you was a grown adult, you hacked for years, at least 10 years, you probably still hack to these days, who know?? And you never download hacks on google as a kid like me, you literally created them, never in your life i have eard you said that hacking was bad, the only thing i did eard, is, your an hacker too, you have hacked at 13 years old.

But it's inside you, you know you are guilty and you just cant say nothing at all other than ''you are the hacker''!

It was working before, because before, my english was so bad that i cant explain myself properly, and since everything had bad explanation in what i wanted to say, i was just raging and saying mean thing.

But im better now, i can explain myself properly and make all the points i need to make without raging like the mongoloid i was.

You cant compare me as you, because there nothing to compare, the only grand master title you deserve is the one for hacking.


Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 11, 2024, 04:51:13 AM
I meant the russian gamers.
Then it would be more correct to say (and we use this term) "Russian-speaking players". For example, Ragner is from Ukraine, but speaks Russian perfectly (which is not surprising, since it is a former part of the USSR).

here the proof again.
Stop posting this photo, it doesn't prove anything. Antihack is not perfect and it has errors. Player U8 was tested for cheats at one time. The results showed that U8 did not use cheats.

You have edited and modify code source and data files of this game for your personal purpose
The source code of the game does not exist. Only Blizzard has it. Stop talking complete nonsense. MPQ-files are not source code.

So this is what you think about me? You think im racist and i hate russian? Because i already said these kind of stuff too.. I also think that russian on this server have tendancy to be close inside their own circle, you said its because they dont speak english, but its not true at all, some of them talk pretty good english or maybe bad, but they still can speak it, but sometime, they just start to speak russian like no else in the game or the channel was there.. I also dont understand why this server has been call War2 *RU* like if war2 belong to russian... You know why i have never join war2 USA, because i dont think it belong to american either and i dint want to particpate in a server where it look like its russia vs usa, i was here since the biginning, i stayed here period, not because it was russia or usa.. War2 belong to the world... War 2 belong to everyone... And naming this server war2ru just close door to every other nations of the world because they can taught its exclusive to russian peoples.. Do you really think i hate russia or russian peoples?? I actually love russia and russians peoples, and if im mad at russian on this server sometime, its exactly because i feel excluded.

I dont cares about this guy because he became out of no where and speak alot while no one know who he is, but i think hes actully right on something, and i dont say RUSSIA or russian peoples are like this, but clearly russian from this server have tendacy to make me feel excluded since alot of years.

The only russian with who i can have decent discussion sometime are Ragner, Extasey, ArMilitar and Hurt i would say, maybe spb, even if he dont speak at all, but in general the others, they dont speak to me at all if its not to insult me.

And before im done, i want to add something, it's not because i dont agree with the name of this server and i think some russians live in their own circle, that i am not gratefull, if it was not of the russians, there will probably be no war2 community at all anymore, i will always appreciate what the russians did for warcraft II, we may desagree on alot of things, but not on this one, i will never desagree, take my words as the honnest person i am and always have been.
Thank God there are no problems with racism in Russia. That's why it's quite unusual for me to see that almost the biggest accusation against a person is that he is a racist.

Of course, we have those who know English well. And many players play with the rest of the world quite normally. I myself, not knowing English well, used to play quite a lot among English speakers.

And why don't people have the right to speak their own language on the server? I've seen U8 communicate in Polish many times, like the Spanish in Spanish. I once communicated with Cel in French... Why do you think that everyone on the server HAS to write in English? I don't think so. This is a world server. You can even write in Japanese.

The server was renamed to warcraft2.online a few years ago. Your claims are groundless. The old name is still preserved. But I'm sorry - it happened historically. I'm not complaining to you that English has become the world language, am I? And don't complain that you play on a RU server. I think there's no point in discussing these things at all.

The name doesn't affect "open or closed doors" for other countries.

You can always register in our social networks and communicate with us if you need to. As some English speakers have already done.
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It's not very noticeable that you value this server and community.



Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 05:05:06 AM
I meant the russian gamers.
Then it would be more correct to say (and we use this term) "Russian-speaking players". For example, Ragner is from Ukraine, but speaks Russian perfectly (which is not surprising, since it is a former part of the USSR).

here the proof again.
Stop posting this photo, it doesn't prove anything. Antihack is not perfect and it has errors. Player U8 was tested for cheats at one time. The results showed that U8 did not use cheats.

You have edited and modify code source and data files of this game for your personal purpose
The source code of the game does not exist. Only Blizzard has it. Stop talking complete nonsense. MPQ-files are not source code.



So this is what you think about me? You think im racist and i hate russian? Because i already said these kind of stuff too.. I also think that russian on this server have tendancy to be close inside their own circle, you said its because they dont speak english, but its not true at all, some of them talk pretty good english or maybe bad, but they still can speak it, but sometime, they just start to speak russian like no else in the game or the channel was there.. I also dont understand why this server has been call War2 *RU* like if war2 belong to russian... You know why i have never join war2 USA, because i dont think it belong to american either and i dint want to particpate in a server where it look like its russia vs usa, i was here since the biginning, i stayed here period, not because it was russia or usa.. War2 belong to the world... War 2 belong to everyone... And naming this server war2ru just close door to every other nations of the world because they can taught its exclusive to russian peoples.. Do you really think i hate russia or russian peoples?? I actually love russia and russians peoples, and if im mad at russian on this server sometime, its exactly because i feel excluded.

I dont cares about this guy because he became out of no where and speak alot while no one know who he is, but i think hes actully right on something, and i dont say RUSSIA or russian peoples are like this, but clearly russian from this server have tendacy to make me feel excluded since alot of years.

The only russian with who i can have decent discussion sometime are Ragner, Extasey, ArMilitar and Hurt i would say, maybe spb, even if he dont speak at all, but in general the others, they dont speak to me at all if its not to insult me.

And before im done, i want to add something, it's not because i dont agree with the name of this server and i think some russians live in their own circle, that i am not gratefull, if it was not of the russians, there will probably be no war2 community at all anymore, i will always appreciate what the russians did for warcraft II, we may desagree on alot of things, but not on this one, i will never desagree, take my words as the honnest person i am and always have been.
Thank God there are no problems with racism in Russia. That's why it's quite unusual for me to see that almost the biggest accusation against a person is that he is a racist.

Of course, we have those who know English well. And many players play with the rest of the world quite normally. I myself, not knowing English well, used to play quite a lot among English speakers.

And why don't people have the right to speak their own language on the server? I've seen U8 communicate in Polish many times, like the Spanish in Spanish. I once communicated with Cel in French... Why do you think that everyone on the server HAS to write in English? I don't think so. This is a world server. You can even write in Japanese.

The server was renamed to warcraft2.online a few years ago. Your claims are groundless. The old name is still preserved. But I'm sorry - it happened historically. I'm not complaining to you that English has become the world language, am I? And don't complain that you play on a RU server. I think there's no point in discussing these things at all.

The name doesn't affect "open or closed doors" for other countries.

You can always register in our social networks and communicate with us if you need to. As some English speakers have already done.
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It's not very noticeable that you value this server and community.






Then thats on me I should have said "russian gamers" from the start , well I know russians are hospitable people.

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 11, 2024, 05:13:57 AM
And why don't people have the right to speak their own language on the server? I've seen U8 communicate in Polish many times, like the Spanish in Spanish. I once communicated with Cel in French... Why do you think that everyone on the server HAS to write in English? I don't think so. This is a world server. You can even write in Japanese.

speak language what you want, but west people will not understand russian language, special when we see random symbols, so if you got 8 players in game and everyone is from diffrent country, people will use english, noone expect perfect english, just basic

The source code of the game does not exist. Only Blizzard has it. Stop talking complete nonsense. MPQ-files are not source code.

he doesnt understand, he is just... to dumb, he showed it many times, he sit whole time at home and he could read something to read what is what, one time I gave him definiton, he didnt understand it and it was about IP how it works cause he was sure I logged as alf and played with him

Stop posting this photo, it doesn't prove anything. Antihack is not perfect and it has errors. Player U8 was tested for cheats at one time. The results showed that U8 did not use cheats.
I remember I had problem to run warcraft 2 on windows 8, cause it was asking me for cd, so had use second? exe there was loader, after few tries it worked

Only you probably read his post
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 05:36:51 AM
here the proof again.
Stop posting this photo, it doesn't prove anything. Antihack is not perfect and it has errors. Player U8 was tested for cheats at one time. The results showed that U8 did not use cheats.[/quote]

I dont think so bro, as someone who has wait for anti hack for years, i was always watching it, and i have never see any false report the time it was there, because actually, everyone who was using anti hack had the anti hack tag, the peoples who could use hacks, where basicly using the old client and was flag as NONE, and the peoples who was caught with unknow report value was flag was unknow, tell me now, what is an unknow report value?!

You have edited and modify code source and data files of this game for your personal purpose
The source code of the game does not exist. Only Blizzard has it. Stop talking complete nonsense. MPQ-files are not source code.[/quote]

So how did you guys made the 2 ogers mode? How did you guys made the rebalance mode? If you guys did these change, you guys clearly have the source code or a way to play with it.
MPQ file may not be directly the source code it self, but its still important data that should not be edited by peoples without autorization, people who work for the server themself.

So this is what you think about me? You think im racist and i hate russian? Because i already said these kind of stuff too.. I also think that russian on this server have tendancy to be close inside their own circle, you said its because they dont speak english, but its not true at all, some of them talk pretty good english or maybe bad, but they still can speak it, but sometime, they just start to speak russian like no else in the game or the channel was there.. I also dont understand why this server has been call War2 *RU* like if war2 belong to russian... You know why i have never join war2 USA, because i dont think it belong to american either and i dint want to particpate in a server where it look like its russia vs usa, i was here since the biginning, i stayed here period, not because it was russia or usa.. War2 belong to the world... War 2 belong to everyone... And naming this server war2ru just close door to every other nations of the world because they can taught its exclusive to russian peoples.. Do you really think i hate russia or russian peoples?? I actually love russia and russians peoples, and if im mad at russian on this server sometime, its exactly because i feel excluded.

I dont cares about this guy because he became out of no where and speak alot while no one know who he is, but i think hes actully right on something, and i dont say RUSSIA or russian peoples are like this, but clearly russian from this server have tendacy to make me feel excluded since alot of years.

The only russian with who i can have decent discussion sometime are Ragner, Extasey, ArMilitar and Hurt i would say, maybe spb, even if he dont speak at all, but in general the others, they dont speak to me at all if its not to insult me.

And before im done, i want to add something, it's not because i dont agree with the name of this server and i think some russians live in their own circle, that i am not gratefull, if it was not of the russians, there will probably be no war2 community at all anymore, i will always appreciate what the russians did for warcraft II, we may desagree on alot of things, but not on this one, i will never desagree, take my words as the honnest person i am and always have been.
Thank God there are no problems with racism in Russia. That's why it's quite unusual for me to see that almost the biggest accusation against a person is that he is a racist.

Of course, we have those who know English well. And many players play with the rest of the world quite normally. I myself, not knowing English well, used to play quite a lot among English speakers.

And why don't people have the right to speak their own language on the server? I've seen U8 communicate in Polish many times, like the Spanish in Spanish. I once communicated with Cel in French... Why do you think that everyone on the server HAS to write in English? I don't think so. This is a world server. You can even write in Japanese.

The server was renamed to warcraft2.online a few years ago. Your claims are groundless. The old name is still preserved. But I'm sorry - it happened historically. I'm not complaining to you that English has become the world language, am I? And don't complain that you play on a RU server. I think there's no point in discussing these things at all.

The name doesn't affect "open or closed doors" for other countries.

You can always register in our social networks and communicate with us if you need to. As some English speakers have already done.
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It's not very noticeable that you value this server and community.
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As honnest peoples right now we can agree that its not what happening, we can make the difference between someone who dont speak english at all and someone who speak it but want to speak his own language. You see, im french, tyrus is french, kanuks is french, and rarely, very rarely we talk in french togheter, we always speak english because we want peoples to be include in our conversation and not feel excluded. The only time while we speak between us in french, its when we tell to each to go fuck ourself, because yes we mad at each other sometime. But in general, we never speak in french, and we like french language, but somewhere where the world meet and we know 90% can speak in english, then we speak in english. I dont say russian cant speak russian at all, but its true that russian or polaks have tendancy to do it pretty often at a point where i think peoples can start to feel exclude. Does you have to stop speaking russian because i feel exclude, not at all, you can keep doing it as much as you want, but dont be surprise if peoples can feel that way. And you are right, its not only russian who does it, polaks do this alot too. Now you are also right, some part of the website have been rename warcraft II online, and i will not lie about the fact that from my point of view, i really appreciate it, i feel like its way much more welcoming for everyone and i respect what you guys did there.

Now you can say whatever you want about my appreciation on the server and the community, but i garantee you, your all wrong!

You may be new here, even if your russian, but i was here since 2006, i was here since 2006 and hosting tournaments as jack94, before tora and duda was here, i was probably the biggest tournaments hoster of the server after burnt, i also host leagues.. I was making my tournament with flyers and posters that i was making myself in photoshop paint, i was putting all the love i can for it, for basicly 20 years, i have been here every day every night, 6 hours to 18 hours per day!!! I was hosting games for everyone in public, no password, ive been taking all the new players in my teams every games i was hosting, i have create clan with more then 100 players at least, you got the data of this game, go watch ALL the '' LPz '' players this server had in the last 20 years, i have always try to speak in english, even if everyone was mocking me because i was bad, it never stop me! Ive been streaming since 2013 for this server, ive been hosting tournament with my own money even if im poor, because i want to show the love i had for this community. Ive always been loyal to this community, always try to make sure peoples can play in a safe enviroment and fight for it! Ive never really played no where else, i could go on usa, i could go on gog, i could go on blizzard, but ive always been here. You can say whatever you want about my appreciation about this community, but when you say your not sure about it, its because your new here, or you lie, because everyone who know me since 2006, know that i have always do whatever i can for this community! The fact that you think its not case, it's probably because we dont agree in alot of things, but the fact that we dont agree on alot of things dont mean i dont appreciate the community or even what the russians did for warcraft II. Yes i think the administration did alot of mystake, and not because they are russians, but just because of the mystakes period, but i still appreciate the fact that we still have a place to play because russian take cares of it, our desagreement has nothing to do with the fact that they are russians. And im gonna tell you something else, for now, i have always been loyal to the server, even in the hard times, but dont missunderstood something, the community, is not the server, the community is everyone, and if one day everyone decide to go on remastered, i will follow them, and if it happen, make sure it will not change anything about my appreciation for the russians who have take cares of this game for the last 20 years. War2RU, and yes, right now i say War2RU, because it almost always has been War2RU for 20 years, war2ru and the russian and whoever has take cares of warcraft II will always be in my heart, and i will always appreciate it even in our total desagreement.

And now before we end this, have you ever think that maybe its the server that dont appreciatie my value!

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 11, 2024, 06:53:07 AM
Now it depends where hotkeys are in warcraft 2 are they accessible to the general public? How accessible it is? At this point if everybody can edit hotkeys is it hacking anymore?  I don't think so
A program for editing hotkeys in the game has been available for a long time now. It was made by a lesnik.
Here is the link: https://en.war2.ru/downloads/?file=War2HotKeys.zip

speak language what you want, but west people will not understand russian language, special when we see random symbols, so if you got 8 players in game and everyone is from diffrent country, people will use english, noone expect perfect english, just basic
If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

Only you probably read his post
:D :D :D Sometimes I can be overly patient :)

I dont think so bro, as someone who has wait for anti hack for years, i was always watching it, and i have never see any false report the time it was there, because actually, everyone who was using anti hack had the anti hack tag, the peoples who could use hacks, where basicly using the old client and was flag as NONE, and the peoples who was caught with unknow report value was flag was unknow, tell me now, what is an unknow report value?!
I don't know what you think or don't think. I know first-hand - from Il himself. That the antihack is still not perfect and errors can happen with it, Il told me about it. I also know that Il is trying to finish it.
What is an unknown report - ask Il better. Just ask politely and without attacking, otherwise he won't even read you.

So how did you guys made the 2 ogers mode? How did you guys made the rebalance mode? If you guys did these change, you guys clearly have the source code or a way to play with it.
MPQ file may not be directly the source code it self, but its still important data that should not be edited by peoples without autorization, people who work for the server themself.
Now this, comrade Equinox, is a closely guarded secret. Only our most senior developers know this. And I won't answer you about it, because I don't have permission to do so. Frankly, I don't really want to tell you about it. Because it's your style to invent such fairy tales that it would be better to keep it a secret than for us to tell you how our mods work.
But I can assure you: MPQ-files are not used. And also that there is no source code.

I dont say russian cant speak russian at all, but its true that russian or polaks have tendancy to do it pretty often at a point where i think peoples can start to feel exclude. Does you have to stop speaking russian because i feel exclude, not at all, you can keep doing it as much as you want, but dont be surprise if peoples can feel that way. And you are right, its not only russian who does it, polaks do this alot too.
We understand the problem. But there's nothing we can do about it. Our people won't learn to speak English better. And I won't make any effort to learn to speak English better. I've voiced the reasons, and I have enough problems in life without English :) At the most basic level, I'll write something on occasion, of course, but nothing more.

We've always been more closed in general. I think that this is in some way a legacy of the "Iron Curtain". It's pretty hard to do anything about it.

War2RU, and yes, right now i say War2RU, because it almost always has been War2RU for 20 years, war2ru and the russian and whoever has take cares of warcraft II will always be in my heart, and i will always appreciate it even in our total desagreement.
It's good to hear, but you won't lull my vigilance :)

And now before we end this, have you ever think that maybe its the server that dont appreciatie my value!
Maybe it's because you write some nonsense quite often? It's good that you're creating activity on the forum. But sometimes, you write really bad things about our server and the admins. And you also said that you respect Russian, that our server is Ru...
I talked to you about this about 4 years ago, during a big argument with Cel. You called us then, I quote: "the server and forum were captured by Russian communist criminal cybercriminals." Does this speak of your loyalty to the server? Does this speak of your commitment to our community? Does this speak of your respect for us, not just as Russians, but also as admins? Although I was more offended by your disrespect for Il and Edo, whom I know personally.

It was after these words of yours that my patience ran out and I simply recognized you as inadequate. Have you changed? Big question.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: ARMilitar on December 11, 2024, 06:58:26 AM
Honestly, I would never have thought that communicating in Russian with my compatriots in the lobby with players from other countries would cause such a feeling of alienation. Thanks Equinox for bringing this up, I never thought about it. You see, yes, I must admit, the Russian-speaking community lives detached from the rest of the community. I agree, it is bad for the whole server, since our part of the community does not take any decisive part in the life of the whole server. However, we have been living like this for many years and we have managed to create our own developing internal community, which is gradually being replenished with new players. Since the beginning of the war, we have renamed ourselves to war2online, but the old domain war2ru still exists. We do not want to emphasize in any way that this is a Russian server or that this server is run by Russians. But I suspect that everyone has already gotten used to the fact that this is a Russian server. And even if the name changes, this "ru" prefix will still haunt this server. We are immensely grateful to each of the server veterans who still come in every day, host games and participate in the life of the server.
As for your situation with Knitterhemd, I think this is not a situation in which admins should interfere. It looks like your personal showdown and, as it seems to me, only you can solve this problem with each other. The intervention of admins will only ruin everything.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 07:59:28 AM
Now it depends where hotkeys are in warcraft 2 are they accessible to the general public? How accessible it is? At this point if everybody can edit hotkeys is it hacking anymore?  I don't think so
A program for editing hotkeys in the game has been available for a long time now. It was made by a lesnik.
Here is the link: https://en.war2.ru/downloads/?file=War2HotKeys.zip

speak language what you want, but west people will not understand russian language, special when we see random symbols, so if you got 8 players in game and everyone is from diffrent country, people will use english, noone expect perfect english, just basic
If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

Only you probably read his post
:D :D :D Sometimes I can be overly patient :)

I dont think so bro, as someone who has wait for anti hack for years, i was always watching it, and i have never see any false report the time it was there, because actually, everyone who was using anti hack had the anti hack tag, the peoples who could use hacks, where basicly using the old client and was flag as NONE, and the peoples who was caught with unknow report value was flag was unknow, tell me now, what is an unknow report value?!
I don't know what you think or don't think. I know first-hand - from Il himself. That the antihack is still not perfect and errors can happen with it, Il told me about it. I also know that Il is trying to finish it.
What is an unknown report - ask Il better. Just ask politely and without attacking, otherwise he won't even read you.

So how did you guys made the 2 ogers mode? How did you guys made the rebalance mode? If you guys did these change, you guys clearly have the source code or a way to play with it.
MPQ file may not be directly the source code it self, but its still important data that should not be edited by peoples without autorization, people who work for the server themself.
Now this, comrade Equinox, is a closely guarded secret. Only our most senior developers know this. And I won't answer you about it, because I don't have permission to do so. Frankly, I don't really want to tell you about it. Because it's your style to invent such fairy tales that it would be better to keep it a secret than for us to tell you how our mods work.
But I can assure you: MPQ-files are not used. And also that there is no source code.

I dont say russian cant speak russian at all, but its true that russian or polaks have tendancy to do it pretty often at a point where i think peoples can start to feel exclude. Does you have to stop speaking russian because i feel exclude, not at all, you can keep doing it as much as you want, but dont be surprise if peoples can feel that way. And you are right, its not only russian who does it, polaks do this alot too.
We understand the problem. But there's nothing we can do about it. Our people won't learn to speak English better. And I won't make any effort to learn to speak English better. I've voiced the reasons, and I have enough problems in life without English :) At the most basic level, I'll write something on occasion, of course, but nothing more.

We've always been more closed in general. I think that this is in some way a legacy of the "Iron Curtain". It's pretty hard to do anything about it.

War2RU, and yes, right now i say War2RU, because it almost always has been War2RU for 20 years, war2ru and the russian and whoever has take cares of warcraft II will always be in my heart, and i will always appreciate it even in our total desagreement.
It's good to hear, but you won't lull my vigilance :)

And now before we end this, have you ever think that maybe its the server that dont appreciatie my value!
Maybe it's because you write some nonsense quite often? It's good that you're creating activity on the forum. But sometimes, you write really bad things about our server and the admins. And you also said that you respect Russian, that our server is Ru...
I talked to you about this about 4 years ago, during a big argument with Cel. You called us then, I quote: "the server and forum were captured by Russian communist criminal cybercriminals." Does this speak of your loyalty to the server? Does this speak of your commitment to our community? Does this speak of your respect for us, not just as Russians, but also as admins? Although I was more offended by your disrespect for Il and Edo, whom I know personally.

It was after these words of yours that my patience ran out and I simply recognized you as inadequate. Have you changed? Big question.


So? Why is nox mad then?  , im genuinely curious about this claims and hatred towards U8 like dude was mugging people on streets or what? Why would some guys be so passionate about proving this guy hacks ? Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Oragorn on December 11, 2024, 08:09:36 AM
Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.
It is VERY desirable to understand the topics before this. Just so you don't accidentally lie. And the history of both the server and the community is really very complex.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 11, 2024, 08:30:44 AM
If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

No why I should be mad cause someone else speak in diffrent language


o? Why is nox mad then?  , im genuinely curious about this claims and hatred towards U8 like dude was mugging people on streets or what? Why would some guys be so passionate about proving this guy hacks ? Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.

Cause he is bored, he got +35 years? never had job, what can you do whole time? he is happy that someone answer his post, you can check at old forum his behavior

In 2016 when I had break he attacked diffrent people, some of them left cause they dont want argue again again and again
He had? cancer, now he is cancer for normal people who want play w2, guy were spaming me till fois made plugin, he was very mad cause finally I dont see his messages
He cant understand that he can be wrong and when you say he is not top he will give some shit, that he won 15 years ago games vs you and now he doesnt want play, so its logic he is still better than you right?
In normal community he should be banned long time ago, due his behavior
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 08:47:35 AM
Now it depends where hotkeys are in warcraft 2 are they accessible to the general public? How accessible it is? At this point if everybody can edit hotkeys is it hacking anymore?  I don't think so
A program for editing hotkeys in the game has been available for a long time now. It was made by a lesnik.
Here is the link: https://en.war2.ru/downloads/?file=War2HotKeys.zip

speak language what you want, but west people will not understand russian language, special when we see random symbols, so if you got 8 players in game and everyone is from diffrent country, people will use english, noone expect perfect english, just basic
If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

Only you probably read his post
:D :D :D Sometimes I can be overly patient :)

I dont think so bro, as someone who has wait for anti hack for years, i was always watching it, and i have never see any false report the time it was there, because actually, everyone who was using anti hack had the anti hack tag, the peoples who could use hacks, where basicly using the old client and was flag as NONE, and the peoples who was caught with unknow report value was flag was unknow, tell me now, what is an unknow report value?!
I don't know what you think or don't think. I know first-hand - from Il himself. That the antihack is still not perfect and errors can happen with it, Il told me about it. I also know that Il is trying to finish it.
What is an unknown report - ask Il better. Just ask politely and without attacking, otherwise he won't even read you.

So how did you guys made the 2 ogers mode? How did you guys made the rebalance mode? If you guys did these change, you guys clearly have the source code or a way to play with it.
MPQ file may not be directly the source code it self, but its still important data that should not be edited by peoples without autorization, people who work for the server themself.
Now this, comrade Equinox, is a closely guarded secret. Only our most senior developers know this. And I won't answer you about it, because I don't have permission to do so. Frankly, I don't really want to tell you about it. Because it's your style to invent such fairy tales that it would be better to keep it a secret than for us to tell you how our mods work.
But I can assure you: MPQ-files are not used. And also that there is no source code.

I dont say russian cant speak russian at all, but its true that russian or polaks have tendancy to do it pretty often at a point where i think peoples can start to feel exclude. Does you have to stop speaking russian because i feel exclude, not at all, you can keep doing it as much as you want, but dont be surprise if peoples can feel that way. And you are right, its not only russian who does it, polaks do this alot too.
We understand the problem. But there's nothing we can do about it. Our people won't learn to speak English better. And I won't make any effort to learn to speak English better. I've voiced the reasons, and I have enough problems in life without English :) At the most basic level, I'll write something on occasion, of course, but nothing more.

We've always been more closed in general. I think that this is in some way a legacy of the "Iron Curtain". It's pretty hard to do anything about it.

War2RU, and yes, right now i say War2RU, because it almost always has been War2RU for 20 years, war2ru and the russian and whoever has take cares of warcraft II will always be in my heart, and i will always appreciate it even in our total desagreement.
It's good to hear, but you won't lull my vigilance :)

And now before we end this, have you ever think that maybe its the server that dont appreciatie my value!
Maybe it's because you write some nonsense quite often? It's good that you're creating activity on the forum. But sometimes, you write really bad things about our server and the admins. And you also said that you respect Russian, that our server is Ru...
I talked to you about this about 4 years ago, during a big argument with Cel. You called us then, I quote: "the server and forum were captured by Russian communist criminal cybercriminals." Does this speak of your loyalty to the server? Does this speak of your commitment to our community? Does this speak of your respect for us, not just as Russians, but also as admins? Although I was more offended by your disrespect for Il and Edo, whom I know personally.

It was after these words of yours that my patience ran out and I simply recognized you as inadequate. Have you changed? Big question.


Thats the probleme, everything you tell me right now is backed up by '' go ask iL and i dont know it's a secret '' But the thing is, i dont need to ask iL to know what is a unknow report value, i want you to tell me if you know what it is, and cearly you dont know, because you tell me to ask iL.. Im not even a devlopper, and i can tell you what it.. The server client war2ru is build on a platform, his entire platform is write with a final source code.. Call it whatever you want... But that client  has a final code to identify himself.. Same for the warcraft II battle edition client, same as the gog server client, same as the usa server client... The anti hack for his part, his a library where all these code are stock, so when someone log into the server, the anti hack check the client of the player and his FINAL CODE relate to it... Each client have their own individual code, but their are all the same code.. So when someone log into the server with this code, the anti hack read the code and tell us what client the player is using.. if the anti hack flag the player as ''AH''.. It mean the player is using a legit war2 ru client who have pass and check for the anti hack... If the anti hack flag the player as NONE, it mean he is using a old client, something comming from blizzard, gog or usa, if a player is flag as HACK, it mean the player has been caught of hacking with a hacks that the anti know already know about it and his code... So he can straight up flag it at HACK, because he already know that code as a hack! If the anti hack flag the player as unknow, it mean the anti hack have no idea about what client the player is using, because he dont know that code at all... There nothing in is library that can tell the antihack what it really is... So how did u8 get flag with a unknow report value?? There no mystake, i dont believe it. Its not something hard to create, if you can made two ogers mode and rebalance mode with super secret technologie dont know at all, dont make me believe there mystake with something so easy to create as a library for an anti hack.

Your boy as been get caught, there no false report,  because false report dont exist. This anti hack does one thing, he identify a code and tell us what it is, he dont create code, he dont imagine code, he dont do any actions of hos own, its programm under order that he follow, his order are simple, check the code that log in, and tell me what it is, easy like that.

Now you tell me you guys have some secrets about how you did 2 ogers mode and re-balance, and i respect that, but your secrets are the reasons why i cant trust any of you.
You want to have secrets, i can deal with it, but i cant deal with the fact that i have spent 20 years of my life on this server and finally knowing that some peoples can edit the mpq, data file, sources code whatever you want to call it. You try to tell me the mpq is not relate to any important files of the game, but to modify the game, you must reverse engineering something and extract his source code, this game have been code somewhere, you just cant do magic and telling me your creating updates from no where, this is not how it work. So the game has codes somewhere, and for me, the only place that i know for the moment where the game has been code, is the mpq, so untill i know where peoples do their hacks, because all these hacks from 20 years ago have clearly been made from these codes. You cant make any modification of this game or any games in the world without the codes. Its like telling me that you made a processor for a motherboard and you dont even know how this motherboard is build... It dont work that way, so clearly for me, the mpq is the most logic answer at the moment. And since its the most logic answer, i cant do nothing else that saying its a door for hacker. And now, maybe there another answer, but u8 still clearly use color that dint exist the game at that time in the past, and he clearly used hotkeys for years while other players on the server cant.. And he still did it, MPQ or NOT, wich make him an hacker by pure definition, this is not none sens speaking, this is the truth.

Now it's true that i have said alot of things, and some of them where probably really bad, but its not because i want to said these things, its because how you guys have treat me and the community for years, because i exactly been loyal to all of you for 10 years at least, doing everything i can for this sever, as the best i can, and never i did had a probleme with anyone on this server before i realize what really happening here with the hackers. Like i said, i came here in 2006, the war between me and administration start around 2016, so for at least 10 years i have never had any probleme with russian or ANYONE on this server.. When i tell you i had over 100 players in my clan, it's true, we were probably the biggest clan EVER on war2ru, untill burnt became jalous and want to beat our clan and harasse every new players to join his clan, but me, i have never harasse no one, peoples was joining my clan because they like me and they like our clan, everyone want to be part of it and no one have been harasse for it.  And maybe a one third of your russian community was in that clan, i will not even be surprise, probably you have been in that clan if your here since long time ago, but you will clearly not say it, if its the case.. Another thing i want you to know, SPB has probably have been my biggest friend between 2006 and 2016, me and spb where playing togheter everyday, when everyone was saying spb was bad, i was the only one to defend him with my entire soul and saying that spb is better then peoples think. I have always respect spb and show it to peoples without any shame! Yes i said you guys were probably some communist cyber criminal russian, i will not deny it, but is that because i really think it, and i really want to said it, or i said it because i wanted you to do something against hackers and stop taking me and the entire community like if we was stoopid! Do i regret what i said in this kind of form, yes i do, because i was so mad that i was just trying to say whatever i can to get what i want, and what that server truly deserve, a good environement  to play where hacking is not a question and we can feel safe and have confidence between each other.. But everytime i was prooving something, peoples were calling me crazy and liar and at the end i had no other choice to think what i was thinking. Does it mean i hate russians, not at all, i think russians are great peoples in general, they are smart peoples that know alot of things, they are peoples with loyalty to their roots and i respect that, in a way, im alot like you, the way you are proud of your nation is the same way i am proud of mine, does it mean i hate russians because im also proud of mine, not at all, i respect you for that, no one can blame you to be born russian and no one can blame me either, at the end, ive never said these words because i hate russian peoples, if i said those things its only because i cant find any other way to bring what we need on that server. Wich is making sure we do everything in our power to make it safe of playing for everyone.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 09:04:17 AM
Honestly, I would never have thought that communicating in Russian with my compatriots in the lobby with players from other countries would cause such a feeling of alienation. Thanks Equinox for bringing this up, I never thought about it. You see, yes, I must admit, the Russian-speaking community lives detached from the rest of the community. I agree, it is bad for the whole server, since our part of the community does not take any decisive part in the life of the whole server. However, we have been living like this for many years and we have managed to create our own developing internal community, which is gradually being replenished with new players. Since the beginning of the war, we have renamed ourselves to war2online, but the old domain war2ru still exists. We do not want to emphasize in any way that this is a Russian server or that this server is run by Russians. But I suspect that everyone has already gotten used to the fact that this is a Russian server. And even if the name changes, this "ru" prefix will still haunt this server. We are immensely grateful to each of the server veterans who still come in every day, host games and participate in the life of the server.
As for your situation with Knitterhemd, I think this is not a situation in which admins should interfere. It looks like your personal showdown and, as it seems to me, only you can solve this problem with each other. The intervention of admins will only ruin everything.

To be honnest the russian speaking was a probleme years ago, i think in general its way much better now, but its true that in the past, it was a big issue because the entire channel could be full of russian speaking and it was a bit herritating for others.. But its been some years that its way much better now, i dont really think its a probleme anymore to be honnest. The only reason we speak about this at the moment is because someone call it, and i tell to oragorn that he should not be surprise if someone feel that way. But in general i dont think its a probleme anymore.

You know Ar, i know you, we play alot togheter with ragner, extasey, vity, hurt etc... I dont think i never tell you anything bad and i dont think you never tell me anything bad either. I think most of the time that we play togheter, we have fun in general, if you want to be with your russian compatriot, ill dot it without saying anything at all and with all the pleasure, when we must made different teams, i ask you what teams you guys want, if you want to ally me, lets do it! If extasey want to ally me, let's do it! Who ever want to ally me, let's do it, you know how i am, cuz you actually play for real with me, and no one can tell you what you already know. I dont remember when, but some weeks ago, someone was saying that russians are all bad players, who did came to russian players defense? Me. Even danydll ask me if i taught russians player was good, and i tell him russians have get way much better in the last years, and they are definitly not bad at all, naming spb, ragner, armilitar, extasey, vity, hurt etc.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 09:13:36 AM
Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.
It is VERY desirable to understand the topics before this. Just so you don't accidentally lie. And the history of both the server and the community is really very complex.


Yeah I try not to come to conclusions very fast knowing previously  ( not in this site) I made some conclusions and results were disastrous ,  I can see there is a lot of history in this site never expected such deep lore from warcraft 2 community didn't even know there was people playing this game and still active online.

If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

No why I should be mad cause someone else speak in diffrent language


o? Why is nox mad then?  , im genuinely curious about this claims and hatred towards U8 like dude was mugging people on streets or what? Why would some guys be so passionate about proving this guy hacks ? Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.

Cause he is bored, he got +35 years? never had job, what can you do whole time? he is happy that someone answer his post, you can check at old forum his behavior

In 2016 when I had break he attacked diffrent people, some of them left cause they dont want argue again again and again
He had? cancer, now he is cancer for normal people who want play w2, guy were spaming me till fois made plugin, he was very mad cause finally I dont see his messages
He cant understand that he can be wrong and when you say he is not top he will give some shit, that he won 15 years ago games vs you and now he doesnt want play, so its logic he is still better than you right?
In normal community he should be banned long time ago, due his behavior

Wow that's....something  +35 and no responsibilities? Would learn programming and deconstruct this game maybe even rewrite it from scratch.

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 11, 2024, 09:19:41 AM
Wow that's....something  +35 and no responsibilities? Would learn programming and deconstruct this game maybe even rewrite it from scratch.

he said many times that he cant work, but there are many jobs who exist from home with computer, if someone want work will find work
If someone can play 16 hours warcraft2, he can also work from home at pc, but you must learn something to do it


Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 09:56:57 AM
Now it depends where hotkeys are in warcraft 2 are they accessible to the general public? How accessible it is? At this point if everybody can edit hotkeys is it hacking anymore?  I don't think so
A program for editing hotkeys in the game has been available for a long time now. It was made by a lesnik.
Here is the link: https://en.war2.ru/downloads/?file=War2HotKeys.zip

speak language what you want, but west people will not understand russian language, special when we see random symbols, so if you got 8 players in game and everyone is from diffrent country, people will use english, noone expect perfect english, just basic
If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

Only you probably read his post
:D :D :D Sometimes I can be overly patient :)

I dont think so bro, as someone who has wait for anti hack for years, i was always watching it, and i have never see any false report the time it was there, because actually, everyone who was using anti hack had the anti hack tag, the peoples who could use hacks, where basicly using the old client and was flag as NONE, and the peoples who was caught with unknow report value was flag was unknow, tell me now, what is an unknow report value?!
I don't know what you think or don't think. I know first-hand - from Il himself. That the antihack is still not perfect and errors can happen with it, Il told me about it. I also know that Il is trying to finish it.
What is an unknown report - ask Il better. Just ask politely and without attacking, otherwise he won't even read you.

So how did you guys made the 2 ogers mode? How did you guys made the rebalance mode? If you guys did these change, you guys clearly have the source code or a way to play with it.
MPQ file may not be directly the source code it self, but its still important data that should not be edited by peoples without autorization, people who work for the server themself.
Now this, comrade Equinox, is a closely guarded secret. Only our most senior developers know this. And I won't answer you about it, because I don't have permission to do so. Frankly, I don't really want to tell you about it. Because it's your style to invent such fairy tales that it would be better to keep it a secret than for us to tell you how our mods work.
But I can assure you: MPQ-files are not used. And also that there is no source code.

I dont say russian cant speak russian at all, but its true that russian or polaks have tendancy to do it pretty often at a point where i think peoples can start to feel exclude. Does you have to stop speaking russian because i feel exclude, not at all, you can keep doing it as much as you want, but dont be surprise if peoples can feel that way. And you are right, its not only russian who does it, polaks do this alot too.
We understand the problem. But there's nothing we can do about it. Our people won't learn to speak English better. And I won't make any effort to learn to speak English better. I've voiced the reasons, and I have enough problems in life without English :) At the most basic level, I'll write something on occasion, of course, but nothing more.

We've always been more closed in general. I think that this is in some way a legacy of the "Iron Curtain". It's pretty hard to do anything about it.

War2RU, and yes, right now i say War2RU, because it almost always has been War2RU for 20 years, war2ru and the russian and whoever has take cares of warcraft II will always be in my heart, and i will always appreciate it even in our total desagreement.
It's good to hear, but you won't lull my vigilance :)

And now before we end this, have you ever think that maybe its the server that dont appreciatie my value!
Maybe it's because you write some nonsense quite often? It's good that you're creating activity on the forum. But sometimes, you write really bad things about our server and the admins. And you also said that you respect Russian, that our server is Ru...
I talked to you about this about 4 years ago, during a big argument with Cel. You called us then, I quote: "the server and forum were captured by Russian communist criminal cybercriminals." Does this speak of your loyalty to the server? Does this speak of your commitment to our community? Does this speak of your respect for us, not just as Russians, but also as admins? Although I was more offended by your disrespect for Il and Edo, whom I know personally.

It was after these words of yours that my patience ran out and I simply recognized you as inadequate. Have you changed? Big question.


So? Why is nox mad then?  , im genuinely curious about this claims and hatred towards U8 like dude was mugging people on streets or what? Why would some guys be so passionate about proving this guy hacks ? Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.

Im not mad, he is just an hypocrite and a liar, hes one of the most popular player if not the most popular period, and he show bad exemple to everyone by hacking the game, he can say whatever he want, but he did hacks the game for years with units color, hotkeys, putting name over his units, and having unknow report value from the anti hacks, this is what i know, what else we dont know, everything he did was editing the game for its own purpose, he may not hack anymore, who really know, but at the end he still acting like if he never did and editing the game for his own purpose what not hacking. He do not cares about this community at all, he always create game in private so peoples cant join him, he said im poor, no job and mad, but everytime he got a chance to get money from a tournament he make sure to do it, 20$ or 2000$ it dont matter for him, he dont let any piece of the cake to anyone else,hes the one acting like a poor, while ive never participate to any cash tournament in the last 10 years. Since remastered has been out, he literally give up on this server and hes willing to play fix order and banging on noobes all day long for 50 more viewers on his stream. He said i harasse him, but its not true at all, i speak about him the same way i speak about everyone and the same way everyone speak about everyone... This community is a bit different of what other community can be. Peoples here love to talktrash or being toxic, there peoples way much worst then me, that wish ukranian to burn in fire at war, that wish peoples to die from their cancer, or just being racist all day long. And he do not cares at all. Its just the way it is, but this guy act like if he was exclusive and we cant say nothing to him, we must take him with white gloves. He create his own personal software so he can ban everyone he dont like. He said im toxic but actually he ban everyone that say shit to him, while he laugh of other being insulting, years ago he ban me on his stream because i did some talkshit, while he was comming everyday on mine with his goons squad to insult me and mock me all the time, because at the time i was the most popular streamer of this game, and this is how he build his own stream, by insulting me and mocking me with his friend on my stream all the time so he could bring peoples to his own stream after.. Even there ive never ban him on my stream, because i dont ban no one at all period and i always have let him is free speech. He act like a nice guy, but when his friend maciek, teaboy or andrezej  insult me, he laugh super hard with them like if it was nice, he dosent cares at all if his friend are insulting me, he think its fun and hes having a good time. He said i will be ban on every other community, while in fact i have an 25 years account on blizzard with every games they have release, and i have never been ban, never been ban on steam either, in fact hes the one who will be ban if he was editing multiplayer games for its own purpose in any other games, the same way he has been ban from twitch for racist comments years ago. He always attack my personal life because its the only thing he can do, while i have never attack his personal life at all, everything i did and say about him is relate to this game, some peoples that know him personally was sending me picture of him in a lan because he is super fat, ive never insult him about this, because is personal life dont matter to me, the things that matter to me is about the game. Hes just a liar and a hypocrite, everything he do is some smiley like this '' xD '' so he seem like a nice guy, but at the end deep inside he is really bad human. He think he is perfect, he will never admit that he did something bad, while as the opposite i know im not perfect and i did bad things and i admit it and said sorry for it, but in his case, never it will happen. I dont even hate this guy, the only thing i did ask him for years is to admit that editing the game for his personal purpose is bad and no one should do it, but he literally refuse to do it and by this fact he keep to show this exemple to everyone that follow him. So at the end, editing the game for our own purpose on this server is something normal because the most popular player act like if it was.

I dont cares about him, i cares about the exemple he his showing to the entire community, even to these day i never ban him from my stream, never ban him from my games, when he join my games, i let him play like everyone else.. He said im toxic, but he still join my games to these days and when i beat up his ass he is so mad that he just rage log like the coward he is.

He said im toxic, but hes the one that has a signature that call me the most stupid player of this server.

He have spam the same video of me for 10 years while he beat me and act deloyal by using someone else account, we call this swapping account, he played me while i was thinking i was playing someone else and caught me off guard, thats the only video he got where he beat me, by deloyal behavior, while that time i have post almost 10 videos of me beating him 1v2 and even 1v3 on my true identity.

He really think when i said im the best of the world i really think it, but he has never realize if i said this its only to make some peoples mad because obviously its the case lol. The same way he rage log everytime i beat him up.

He call me stupid, but here is my title when i stream.

〜Warcraft II〜 NATURAL FORCE >> WRECKING MACHINE >> SMARTER THAN A.I's >> BUILD ORDERS OF THE FUTURE >> 2049 >> RAGE LOG MASTER >> BEST OF THE WORLD!!

How someone can take me seriously when i claim myself smarter than A.I's, only u8.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 10:21:08 AM
Not care yet you seem fixated on proving he hacks sounds contradictory to me .

Look from my prescriptive somebody who wants to know what all this rambling about I find it difficult to take your words for granted maybe hand me some pictures of him doing bad stuff as you said? Also how is it possible to trust somebody claim when everyone around him tell him he is wrong and his arguments are debunked? If you have any evidence that proves szwagier been doing all this bad stuff I think everybody would turn on him but since there isn't any strong evidence it won't be wise of admins terminate him based on your claims alone.

Im gonna bear with you and say I would need to see myself if U8 kicks noobs and does such  hostile behaviour against new players until then I can't say much about the topic.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 10:36:49 AM
Not care yet you seem fixated on proving he hacks sounds contradictory to me .

Look from my prescriptive somebody who wants to know what all this rambling about I find it difficult to take your words for granted maybe hand me some pictures of him doing bad stuff as you said? Also how is it possible to trust somebody claim when everyone around him tell him he is wrong and his arguments are debunked? If you have any evidence that proves szwagier been doing all this bad stuff I think everybody would turn on him but since there isn't any strong evidence it won't be wise of admins terminate him based on your claims alone.

Im gonna bear with you and say I would need to see myself if U8 kicks noobs and does such  hostile behaviour against new players until then I can't say much about the topic.

I dont have to proove he hack, its a fact that he already proov himself, there no games out there who will allow someone to edit their game for their personal purpose, do you understand this?

And who have debunk what, nothing has been debunk, we dont debunk anything by saying ''trust me bro, its our secret, but there nothing wrong here '' I dont have to post any picture, because the evidence are not picture at all, the evidence are editing the game for its own purpose, Change the color of his units so he can see better than everyone else, changing his own hotkeys so he can play better and faster than everyone else, having name on his units so he can know wich units get damage without watching their health bar like everyone else... If my peon, my grunt or my ogers as a name over his head that said james deen, then when this peons get attack, i can fastly found him and secure him by looking at the name james deen over his head without checking the health bar, while every other person will have to watch 10 different peons, grunt or ogers healt bar to find him. These are hacks, you dont need more evidence than that, you need to see reality and stop acting like if its not the case.. If he was doing this in other games, he will be ban straight up dude. And he dont need to kick noobs, he create private so noobs just cant join him at all.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 10:58:15 AM
Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.
It is VERY desirable to understand the topics before this. Just so you don't accidentally lie. And the history of both the server and the community is really very complex.


Yeah I try not to come to conclusions very fast knowing previously  ( not in this site) I made some conclusions and results were disastrous ,  I can see there is a lot of history in this site never expected such deep lore from warcraft 2 community didn't even know there was people playing this game and still active online.

If we speak Russian in the presence of an English speaker, it means we are communicating about something of our own, and among ourselves. Do you get irritated by incomprehensible symbols? Well, I get irritated, for example, by the Latin alphabet. But I'm not crying about it.

No why I should be mad cause someone else speak in diffrent language


o? Why is nox mad then?  , im genuinely curious about this claims and hatred towards U8 like dude was mugging people on streets or what? Why would some guys be so passionate about proving this guy hacks ? Man there is a lot of stories in this server I gotta find and make a YT video about the history of this server its quite intriguing.

Cause he is bored, he got +35 years? never had job, what can you do whole time? he is happy that someone answer his post, you can check at old forum his behavior

In 2016 when I had break he attacked diffrent people, some of them left cause they dont want argue again again and again
He had? cancer, now he is cancer for normal people who want play w2, guy were spaming me till fois made plugin, he was very mad cause finally I dont see his messages
He cant understand that he can be wrong and when you say he is not top he will give some shit, that he won 15 years ago games vs you and now he doesnt want play, so its logic he is still better than you right?
In normal community he should be banned long time ago, due his behavior

Wow that's....something  +35 and no responsibilities? Would learn programming and deconstruct this game maybe even rewrite it from scratch.

Here again he hes lying, i got college international diploma in sound engineering, he act like if i has no job because i live at my dad house, but my dad house got 5 bedroom and it has never been a problem for him if live here. I love my family, my family love me.. I got my own studio, where i have been working in production mixing and mastering for years. With independant artist or subvention ones. Its true since some years i dont work anymore, because i had rare an agressive cancer stage 4 that we call hodgekins cancer, its a blood, lymphoma, lymps node cancer, its basicly relate to blood and it can happen to different kind of peoples, its rarer with the adult, normally it happen with young peoples, but its still happen sometime with older peoples.If you know the hockey players Saku Koivu or Mario Lemieux, its the same cancer as them. I did chimio and radio therapy for basicly 3 years, i did win my fight against the cancer, but all the chimio bring some other probleme to my health, wich is serious heart and liver probleme. They also did 7 operations to me because of blood cloths, one of it was in my leg, its hard to explain but they had to drill inside my right leg so they can pass a kind of filter that can go straight into my main arthere so the blood cloth cant go inside my heart and brain... By this fact i cant barely walk anymore.. From this fact, the doctor and my governement declare me invalid to work and i do enouph money to survive without working. Thats the main issue with trying to talk about other personal life, how i have to explain all of this to peoples that i dont even know in real life, is that anyone buissness in here? Did we came here to take cares of other personal life or we came here to play this game, cant believe i must explain that to some random peoples that think they are enouph important to deal with other personal life that they dont know.
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 11:13:16 AM
Glad you won your fight against that disease , well look man since you are in this difficult position I don't think its quite healthy for you to do this or whatever you been doing for the past few days sounds like you are getting annoyed again and again and it goes nowhere like really where is this argument going ? Nowhere!!

Can be difficult but can't you forget about it all? You are quite lucky to still live among mankind.....so why waste energy and time over this dead end topic? Just leave it be man will be better for you and all others.

Instead of this Sherlock Holmes series of "x is hacker" u can actually invest that energy  into something that makes you happy , this all seems to radiate negative energy too much negative attitude can impact your mental health and sometimes perception of others.

In other words TOUCH GRASS
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Mistral on December 11, 2024, 11:16:24 AM
well its actually not a super secret info as oragorn says
i have war2mod from server source code on my github for 2 years already
https://github.com/Mistral-war2ru/War2Mod-Server
its 2 yr old version though but all of main functions was not changed by those 2 yers
so if you really want to check you can
i just doubt you really can understand anything
but
it was never as much hidden as you think
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 11:34:14 AM
I think he was joking when he said super secret.

And MPQ editing doesn't require deconstructing nuclear submarine level of complexity  to understand  it.

As such I somebody with no coding background managed to create a sizeable mod for warcraft 3 even added new AI functions.

All you need is a MPQ editor and you will be able to jiggle the game however you want some are hardcoded stuff , so yeah what the team of this server has done is available to everyone

Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Szwagier on December 11, 2024, 11:37:01 AM
You belive he will understand C++ while he cant understand how works IP address?

@Pandaprewmaster325
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6357.0

look at this topic, guy after +20 years playing this game learn that coil HEAL dk

ofc accussed that I made this hack
its not funny, its mental ill
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Pandaprewmaster325 on December 11, 2024, 11:43:05 AM
You belive he will understand C++ while he cant understand how works IP address?

@Pandaprewmaster325
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?topic=6357.0

look at this topic, guy after +20 years playing this game learn that coil HEAL dk

ofc accussed that I made this hack
its not funny, its mental ill
I

That was funny to read guess  a low health DK getting back to full health after casting coil isn't noticeable at all...
Title: Re: Beating KnitterHemd in 2020
Post by: Nox on December 11, 2024, 11:50:49 AM
Glad you won your fight against that disease , well look man since you are in this difficult position I don't think its quite healthy for you to do this or whatever you been doing for the past few days sounds like you are getting annoyed again and again and it goes nowhere like really where is this argument going ? Nowhere!!

Can be difficult but can't you forget about it all? You are quite lucky to still live among mankind.....so why waste energy and time over this dead end topic? Just leave it be man will be better for you and all others.

Instead of this Sherlock Holmes series of "x is hacker" u can actually invest that energy  into something that makes you happy , this all seems to radiate negative energy too much negative attitude can impact your mental health and sometimes perception of others.

In other words TOUCH GRASS

Well, while you guys seem so interess by my personal life, let me explain you something else, something that i have been accuse for years, peoples love to say im a fucking loser with no wife or girlfriend, wich is probably true right now, but dont get me wrong, i have been with the same girl between 18 and 24 years old, between 24 years old and 29 years old ive been flirting with different girls due to the fact that i always have been with the same girl for 7 years, no serious relationship after that, only some non serious girlfriends, between 29 and 31 years old ive been with another girl more seriously, at 31 i became solo again, at 32 i had my cancer, i fight it untill 35, after my cancer i decide i dint want any serious relationshop anymore, not because i cant, not because i dont want, not because im ugly, but simply because its true that i am mostly poor, sure i can survive by myself, but clearly i can provide and take cares of a wife, its even more true that i cant take cares of a family, so i dont see any reasons for me trying to get inside a serious relationship with someone who i will not be able to take cares properly as she deserve, no one deserve that kind of life and i refuse to to this at someone, so i deal with it, like a human that understand the reality. Now, i dont say this because i want peoples to tell me how they are sorry for me, or how it possible if i put more effort to it, because no, ive learn to deal with it, im learn being happy without it, i said this because i hope peoples who do this will stop saying this none sens bullshit all the time like if they know me!

And before to end this thing, let me say something else quickly, no, i have never stole my father money or even my mother money, i love my family, and i dont need to stole them anything, i paid for my things, basicly everything i got, i paid it myself, the only thing i dont pay here is electricty. Thats all, all the rest i paid it myself.

No need to answer this message anymore, lets consider this discussion close.