us 2016 elections thread (america ftw)

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

america was also founded on genocide, what do you want to do about it now?

Also you're not following the argument, which is that Israel is a genocidal state and is genocidal by its very nature, genocide is built into its DNA, and the genocide it was founded on continues to this day with the Palestinians. The example of the US only strengthens this argument - the US was founded on the genocide of Native Americans, and the genocide of Native Americans continued unabated until they were completely wiped out and brought to heel. You could even make an argument that this genocide continues in the neglect and oppression of Native communities, the US even takes Native children from their parents and places them in white foster care under (at best) questionable circumstances, which is a hallmark of genocidal policy. This is the future of the Palestinians if Israel is allowed to continue to exist as a Jewish supremacist settler state.

i'm following the argument fine, you just don't have a very coherent one.

[CumSavorer4385]

yes.. the third reich ceased to exist after the nazis fell, it only refers to the period of nazi rule....

1) That's the whole point, there weren't any good Nazis, genocide and hatred and war was intrinsic to their character, they had to be removed from power completely. So it is with Zionism.

2) Lol if you think the Third Reich just ceased to exist. The US and its network of postwar client states was the Reich's successor, a reactionary and militaristic global power with the number one domestic and foreign policy goal of protecting capital and smashing worker movements

[CumSavorer4385]

america was also founded on genocide, what do you want to do about it now?

Also you're not following the argument, which is that Israel is a genocidal state and is genocidal by its very nature, genocide is built into its DNA, and the genocide it was founded on continues to this day with the Palestinians. The example of the US only strengthens this argument - the US was founded on the genocide of Native Americans, and the genocide of Native Americans continued unabated until they were completely wiped out and brought to heel. You could even make an argument that this genocide continues in the neglect and oppression of Native communities, the US even takes Native children from their parents and places them in white foster care under (at best) questionable circumstances, which is a hallmark of genocidal policy. This is the future of the Palestinians if Israel is allowed to continue to exist as a Jewish supremacist settler state.

i'm following the argument fine, you just don't have a very coherent one.

Excellent rebuttal.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

yes.. the third reich ceased to exist after the nazis fell, it only refers to the period of nazi rule....

1) That's the whole point, there weren't any good Nazis, genocide and hatred and war was intrinsic to their character, they had to be removed from power completely. So it is with Zionism.

2) Lol if you think the Third Reich just ceased to exist. The US and its network of postwar client states was the Reich's successor, a reactionary and militaristic global power with the number one domestic and foreign policy goal of protecting capital and smashing worker movements

i agree , israel's right wing government needs to be removed if there will ever be a chance at peace.

[CumSavorer4385]

Please tell me Jon what left wing party in Israel both stands a chance of taking power and also has an actual left-wing solution to the conflict. Because lol you sound ignorant as fuck.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

didn't netanyahu nearly lose the recent election? he was crying hard saying "arabs are voting in droves". it's a joke that this retard racist is still in office.

[CumSavorer4385]

didn't netanyahu nearly lose the recent election? he was crying hard saying "arabs are voting in droves". it's a joke that this retard racist is still in office.

Who do you think the competition was? Netanyahu and Likud weren't in power during Cast Lead.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

the party in charge during cast lead was actually made up of former likud members.
netanyhau's main opposition was the zionist union, and the joint list.  the zionist union says they want to actually hold dialogue with the palestians to solve issues while netanyhau's racist party ignores them. the joint list is actually made up of communists, socialists and feminists and led by an arab. that's probably why netanyau was crying so hard about arabs voting.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2015/05/06/too-big-exist-sanders-introduces-bill-break-big-banks

'Too Big to Exist': Sanders Introduces Bill to Break Up Big Banks

If passed, bill would give Treasury Secretary a year to break up institutions bailed out in financial crisis

[CumSavorer4385]

the party in charge during cast lead was actually made up of former likud members.
netanyhau's main opposition was the zionist union, and the joint list.  the zionist union says they want to actually hold dialogue with the palestians to solve issues while netanyhau's racist party ignores them. the joint list is actually made up of communists, socialists and feminists and led by an arab. that's probably why netanyau was crying so hard about arabs voting.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

are you saying serenity now cause u got owned and you're trying to calm your rage  - otherwise i don't get it.

[CumSavorer4385]

I am trying not to go insane with rage at what a retarded liberal you are.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

yea i'm not sure why you can't understand how removing a hostile moron like netanyahu could drastically improve the situation.

[CumSavorer4385]

yea i'm not sure why you can't understand how removing a hostile moron like netanyahu could drastically improve the situation.

Because the other people aren't any better? Again, tell me who the credible left opposition in Israel is and how they have a chance of getting elected.

The last non-Likud government was the center-left coalition led by Kadima that orchestrated the Gaza Massacre of late 2008/2009.

[tora is a simp bitch for billionaires]

kadima was made up of ex likud members, why would they be better.