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Offline dannyldd

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hi, like title says i ask moderators or admins if is ever going to be another War2 Combat ladder season.

But most specially, wondering if this time will be added up a season with Blizzard-War2Remaster rebalance.

For the first time, in 30 years, I've seen one single Blizzard's official game rebalance patch for Warcraft II, where I significantly see a chance for Humans to be playable on the game, in frontal combat and in fair 1 vs 1 game.

For some very unknown reason to me, no people ever talk about it in the most populated and regularly visited War2 server. The only ones I've seen talking about it, are beginners - casual level people from War2 Remaster.

This rebalance patch may not be perfect, but its a legit intention for the first time in 30 years, to see Humans being actually playable.

Why no people interested in ?

Why no interest in making a whole ladder system with this rebalance mode, even if its officially launched by Blizzard Entertainment and made available by Ed gorod ?

Like if people would like to be hardstucked in OrcCraft II or BloodlustCraft II for ever.

My main concerning is that past Ladder season in the beginning of year, actually added up a whole set of different maps to play with, even if the so beloved Gardens of War was added up. But it still gave variety at last, even though it was same base game balance.

No intentions to fight, but would like legit answers to this, if ever possible please.

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I could understand 5 years ago, that people would think War2 would be stucked to Bloodlust + Death & decay for ever, since official developers never released a game patch or rebalance patch, but that's no more thanks to Ed gorod (most likely and other admins from community). Yet, even with official content, people still dont ask for stuff like the Rebalance mode which makes Humans finally an option to fairly win Orc oponnents.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2025, 04:57:48 PM »
im hoping blizzard has eventual plans to add some multiplayer features to the remastered version of the game

otherwise i wonder how hard it'd be to rebuild this version with the changes?

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2025, 06:24:21 PM »
im hoping blizzard has eventual plans to add some multiplayer features to the remastered version of the game

otherwise i wonder how hard it'd be to rebuild this version with the changes?

do you refer to import war2 remaster features in war2 Combat ?

Can you please elaborate what changes are you referring to ? Please dont hesistate to elaborate

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2025, 04:28:18 PM »
well everything about remastered is better outside of the multiplayer features, so basically everything. graphics, balance changes

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2025, 04:37:49 PM »
well everything about remastered is better outside of the multiplayer features, so basically everything. graphics, balance changes

If you're asking for the very only official War2 Remaster rebalance patch ever released by Blizzard, this is actually available in War2Combat - Multiplayer - game option in Lobby.
There's a small dropdown list there that allows to select "Blizzard" option which is the same rebalance set up by Blizzard on Remaster.
This option is 4 months old and i've seen literally nobody talking or playing with it, which makes no sense to me because it brings an actual chance to competitively play with Human race and win in multiplayer. People are stucked instead with the bloodlust fest from default game balance.

If you refer to War2 Remaster AI graphics, I was thinking to import War1 remaster graphics on the future. At least getting few contrasts from Remaster and classic, buildings seem almost the same to me. This can be done, even though I see 0 interest from anybody in community to make this done. I could do it and its possible, still.

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The only 2 options I saw that are better in Remaster rather than War2 Classic (Combat) is to have health/mana bars above units and 12 units selection.
At least the health/mana bars can be fixed up and it was said by one of War2Combat developers, but 12 units selection is way too hard because its hardcoded to many functions. So this would be pretty much the only thing that cannot be imported here.

Yet, if you're looking up for other fancy quality of life features in War2 classic (Combat), there're several mods already for this game version that were made since 2019 and another guy known as Mistral, which have several enhancements for the game. Not only audio or visuals, but things like:

-improved AI
-rally points
-repairable catapults
-game timer
-hotkeys program
-widescreen
-actual game support, instead of Remaster which has none. And neither war2classic had ever support by Blizzard
-community members which still make multi/singleplayer custom maps quite unique.
-Over 20 mods already for War2 (not just tweaking some map with certain unit restrictions & default AI).

The content is there but people dont simply give attention to, yet thanks in advance if you're interested in any of them.

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2025, 04:59:43 PM »
that is cool, i suppose the balance changes wouldn't be too hard to implement, i never even noticed they were in the game.

I think you'd have to default the settings in the game to get people to use them, which is why im just hoping blizzard gives us multiplayer features so we can all play the game in one place. although it'd be a shame to leave all the hard work people have put into modding this game over the last many years

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2025, 05:17:06 PM »
that is cool, i suppose the balance changes wouldn't be too hard to implement, i never even noticed they were in the game.

I think you'd have to default the settings in the game to get people to use them, which is why im just hoping blizzard gives us multiplayer features so we can all play the game in one place. although it'd be a shame to leave all the hard work people have put into modding this game over the last many years


There're plenty more loudly people in not only this community but out there that will strongly defend default game balance, besides it means only playing Orcs 99% of time.

If you got Remaster rebalance changes set by default, probably you would either see people leaving or complaining about it. It's good to have it as an option, but if people truly had intention to play a way better game balance that actually allowed Humans to be playable, then people would pick it up. I've seen no people interested in it over past 4 months.

In Remaster, you have no choice, you either take it or simply dont play Multiplayer... But it also affects Single player there as well.

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If by miracle, you mean Blizzard exports all the rest of remaining positive features from War2 classic (Combat) into Remaster without bugs, I think there're plenty of people who still could NOT play. As far as I was told, Russians CANNOT buy the game by themselves. I mean Remaster. They have to get it gifted in order to install so then play.

Don't know why this happens but they just didn't allow russian people to play new game version from the beginning, by even allowing to buy it.

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Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2025, 06:35:27 PM »
that sucks, although i think if you got a VPN you could probably bypass that restriction
I'm surprised blizzard has a digital embargo on russia literally throwing away money