It's 2024. Competitive war2 ended decades ago around 2010. Kali was the peak between 1996 - 2006. War2's headstone should read "1996 - 2006". Kali was more populated than Bnet and competitive via cases ladder even after Bnet's release with its built in total trash glicko system. Kali lived on several years into bnet's existence with very solid populations but around 2006 it really dropped off heavily as people got use to bnet's new interface and realizing bnet would never fix it's crap ladder. I think Axolotl still has his season 1 (somethin like that, I forget which season it was) trophy photo up. The ladder on bnet lasted I think 3 or 4 seasons before people realized it was not ever going to be fixed and just stopped participating in it in any competitive way. There hasnt been a replacement ever since that brought back the urge to compete competitively. Even if one existed, I couldnt anyway. I play 1 handed in 2024+. Arthritis prevents me from using hotkeys. So if I show up in any ladder stats anywhere, know that it was not intentional.
I assume this is about the "mist" ladder btw, which uses the same exact FAILED system that Bnet used in 1999. Just take a look at u8's rating on the "mist" ladder currently and you'll quickly see why it was such a miserable utter and total failure. It's nothing but a grinding reward system. The person that grinds out the most wins against complete noobs wins the season. Simple. Of course, I explained all this before this "mist" ladder was even developed and was just a discussion somewhere here in the forums. I explained why it would never work and now you have a working example of just why it's such a bad example when viewing u8's game stats. Just take a look at how his glicko continued to rise even though he wasnt playing anyone any better, it was all vs a single player (which makes this system easy to game and it appears thats exactly what he did which isnt surprising in the least, it was warned before this ladder even existed that thats what would happen). The false assumption that just because Blizz uses it, that it must be a good system is COMPLETELY misguided. Blizzard doesnt care about competitiveness. It only cares about making people stay in their games as much as possible and grinding is how they do that across ALL their titles. Glicko's only use is a match making GUESS. And thats it. Thats all it is, a guess. Which is usually wrong in grindy environments. There are plenty of complaints about it in other title's forums. Just take a look at Hearthstone's forums and you'll quickly realize this. You're just not going to find a better system than rung based.
Elo is far older than blizzard (glicko is based on elo). It was designed for chess in the early 1900s which is an in person game where games could last HOURS or even DAYS at a time. Grinding out wins at chess against new players is not possible in a real in person officially sanctioned way which is why it works well for chess but not something like War2 or any online game for that matter. What you have developed isnt really elo. It's closer to glicko, if not an outright copy of it and simply not showing the RD value. However, it doesnt matter if you use elo or glicko. The end result is the same. You can game them both by grinding out wins vs lesser players (as you can see with u8's current ranking and was explained b4 this dumb idea was put into motion). Something you simply cannot do in a rung based system.
To be honnest i basicly agree with everything you say at 99%, the only thing i dont agree is when you say there no competition. if there no competition it's because the competition is made like a total joke, it always have been that way. For numerous years i tryd to make the competition relevant, but everytime i tryd they put stick into my wheels to make me fail. I remember when i tryd to make master tag challenge, they did everything in their power to counter my decisions at everything, when i was taking a decision, sudenly i was not the leader anymore, i was just a total slave that must obey to them. When i try to host tournament and give my own money, they force me to let play u8 because they dint accept my decision to banning him from my tournament because he was hacking.
Even today it's the same thing, you think peoples ask for random ressources, not at all, they put random ressource because u8 hes clearly the one asking for it... Duda made this ladder with mistral and the first things he does when the ladder work properly is giving ten free win to u8...
You think peoples are not tired of this bs? There no competition because they make sure u8 always on top before the competition even start.. Same thing with tournament, everytime there a tournament, u8 got free pass to round 2?? How the hell he got free pass to round 2 when he suppose to be one of the best player of the server?? How it make sens? He should be round 1 every damn tournament exactly because he is one of the best and he suppose to basicly beat everybody, but instead they give free pass to him in round 2 and every new players in round 1 get eliminated before they even reach round 2 while hes there waiting and laughing. Should the new players have these free pass to round 2 and have more chances instead of giving the best chances at the best players all the time?!
If the competition dont exist, its because of peoples who take cares of it and their decisions.
While i was leader of master tag challenge, i want to make way much more tag then right now, I want to use Legend tag, i want to use Grand master tag, i want to use Master tag and i even want to use CHAMP tag, one player got this tag and its dj boss, because dj boss was the only winner of that tag while i was the leader, and since i quit, they dont cares at all. They force me to give a Legend tag to Swift for no reason because they decide swift was the legend, but my plan was to make a FREE FOR ALL with all the grand master and the master, and the winner will be crown as legend... And after the Grand masters would be able to challenge the legend normally for his tag, but no, they force it to swift untill i leave, and now they give it back to swift for free. There no competition, because competition is already sett for who they want to be sett, they dont let any chance to nobody, its basicly all rigged, they do everything in their power to make sure peoples have less chance, and when peoples win something they do everything in their power again to find reasosn to not do what they are suppose to do.
I also remember with the master tag challenge, when i wanted to make sure no official challenge must be ask to beat someone, because right now, the rules are dumb, if you want the tag of someone, you must basicly ask for an official challenge, but why is that a rule, if you lose, you lose, period, it dosent change anything if its official or not, what the point of it.
I also remember when i was making tournaments, i was making 2 different type of tournaments, one for the pro, one for the new players, so everyone could have a chance to win a tournament, now, they all mix everyone in the same tournament and its always the same winners all the time.
I garantee you, if i was still leading these tournaments and league, you will have your own categories for 1 hand peoples like you, and you could be a winner and you will enjoy competition, but now, who cares about you, no ones, and for that reason you dont cares either about them and their competitions.
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