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How long should Yamon be banned for?

1 week
4 (26.7%)
1 month
1 (6.7%)
3 months
0 (0%)
Lifetime (and perhaps any unlikely progeny as well)
5 (33.3%)
He does not ruin the community by hacking, smurfing, trolling, insulting, discing, or bsing, and should not be banned.
5 (33.3%)

Total Members Voted: 15

Voting closed: May 18, 2017, 07:19:09 PM

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Offline LTFan

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2017, 06:52:55 AM »
You guys dont know how to look at ss's? those msgs are all from kyles perspective. hes MSGING babyshark. babyshark says 1 thing in those ss's and thats *evil giggle.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2017, 08:07:34 AM »
yes, duh. same question.
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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2017, 08:53:39 AM »
Any of the other recent conversations are welcome here too. Full coversation in sequential order is ideal. :)

Oh crap. I just posted a smiley. I must have just stabbed someone in the throat. Maybe I should erase it??


did you make a voodoo doll of me?



no but srsly pls don't kill me
« Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 09:00:21 AM by Yamon »

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2017, 09:04:47 AM »
^lol
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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2017, 09:21:28 AM »
I don't understand why people don't just hit the print screen button when there's any question about who is asking who for a screenshot.  To say it takes "only a second" is a massive understatement.  It happens all the time.  Someone pauses in rage and goes simply "ss".  I push the button just so I can move on with my life while other people bicker back and forth.  It takes many keys to trash talk back and forth as yamon clearly did in this game, but only one key to take a screenshot.

On a only mildly related note--and I haven't brought it up here yet because no one made an issue out of it that I've seen--uploading a screenshot is a huge pain in the ass.  My old ass War2 computer still runs Windows XP and an older version of IE and I can't get the god damn upload page to work.  I haven't uploaded a screenshot in a couple of years now.  I've been asked for a few, and of course I took them (I mean why wouldn't I, it is so god damn easy), but fortunately no one has pushed the issue far enough I would have to figure out how to copy it off my old machine and on to something newer just to get the stupid thing uploaded.  To be honest, I don't even know if my flash drive would work on this thing it's so old.

I guess where I'm going with this is while I would understand, considering my personal experience, why someone doesn't upload right away, but for someone to not take a screenshot--that seems like complete BS to me.  What does yamon have?  Like 200-300APM?  It literally takes him 1/5 of a second to push the button?  Come on.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2017, 09:42:28 AM »
Yeah Ywfn basically said it.  People should always be taking screenshots just in case.  It's your opportunity to prove you're legitimate, why would you want to miss it and have suspicion land on you instead?

Btw Ywfn I have an old winxp war2 computer too and the ss upload site works pretty well for me.  I guess if you have trouble you could always email the ss to someone to post for you, or does gmail and so on suck shit on your comp too?  Your comp sounds pretty bad :P

Babyshark I hadn't seen those screenshots when I posted my reasoning, but they do further the issue I had with this ss request, which is that it's not clear who was asked for the ss to begin with.  I already thought it was a bit too muddy to ban a user for, and while *evil giggle* isn't like an admission that you're trying to frame Yamon, it does make it even harder to say for sure if this ss request was even directed at Yamon.
    

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2017, 10:03:24 AM »
I think the issue is the captcha doesn't work.  It doesn't even appear.  My machine is running IE 6.0.  It's a old machine I use exclusively for war2 so I never did updates other than Windows Security updates.  At this point, it's physically falling apart.  CD drive barely works, etc, but it works so good for war2 I don't want to use one of my newer machines for war2.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2017, 10:27:50 AM »
I hope when it falls apart you don't retire :D
    

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2017, 10:44:21 AM »
I will not enforce SS requests from watchers.


This violates the War2 Ru Server Screenshot Policy as dictated here: http://en.war2.ru/about/screenshot-policy/

It reads:

"Screenshot Policy

On War2.ru it is mandatory to take screenshots on request during matches, and to upload them on our SS upload site immediately after the match ends.

We have this policy to prevent the use of third-party software (aka “hacks”) that are designed to give players an unfair advantage over their opponents. You can request a screenshot from anyone, and anyone can request one from you. Anyone who fails to upload a screenshot on request will be subject to punitive action at an admin or mod’s discretion."

I will reiterate the word "anyone" taken directly from the server policy where it clearly states ANYONE can request a screenshot from ANYONE.

This concept of watchers not being included in this universal "anyone" is a brand new concept, conveniently invented JUST NOW by Tora. If current policies need updating to exclude watchers, this should have no bearing on the current case. The current case needs to be tried by the current screenshot policy. Most people will not think watchers should be excluded, but if anything, ridiculous abusive smurfers (ie. orcdude11) should be.

And the others don't even agree with Tora, as eyyy im walkin here said:

As discussed in the admin forum neither Mouse nor i have an issue with watchers making ss requests.  From talk in there I don't believe Yamon will be banned but Babyshark being a watcher won't be the deciding reason


Well, then do tell everyone what the "deciding reason" is.

I think I and all the people who viewed this thread 630 times are itching to know.



here you are quoting rules, but clearly you missed this xD
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How to Request a Screenshot (“SS”)

    Pause the game first, then ask the player for a screenshot. (e.g. you can type “ss opponent’s name”, or “screenshot red” )

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2017, 10:53:33 AM »
I hope when it falls apart you don't retire :D

I will probably just re-purpose another machine at my war2 desk, but we'll see.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2017, 02:09:16 PM »
I think that if anyone in the game asks for a SS. It should be taken and posted, it makes things a lot more complicated even fishy if the person doesn't comply. It is safe to assume of whoever babyshark is accusing is most likely a hacker unless Screen was shown. It happens 9/10 cases of people who don't post. 

I'd probably give a soft ban. I understand the player base is low but there should be things that are not tolerated.

It's like hey let's keep the guy that rapes women because he contracts new buildings for a cheap price. No matter what the benefit it shouldn't be welcome.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2017, 04:31:54 PM »
It's like hey let's keep the guy that rapes women because he contracts new buildings for a cheap price.
A woman screams "someone raped me". Lets put in jail the first guy that responds

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2017, 05:44:19 PM »
This whole thing is absurd...Yamons contradictory story about a SS request then no SS request and no specific SS request and only being banned 1 time in 2010 even tho he was just banned last year for denying SS is getting old. I guess you have to get in good enough with the admins that they trust you enough to SHARE ACCOUNTS with you so you will never have to worry about being banned.

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2017, 06:01:01 PM »
Who are you talking about
    

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Re: Orochimaru[rA] dodges ss, unpauses repeatedly
« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2017, 06:01:51 PM »
mouse and tora sharing accounts with kyle and yamon