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If the submarine person visioned purple and purple visioned you, you can see the submarines.
I knew there was something funny going on woth mousey. I didn't know admins get vis from submarines. Maybe that privilege only belongs to one player.
so to clarify: in a hypothetical tvb scenario w/ 4 players & 1 watcher, if the watcher visions all to show start location there is some bug that makes the subs remain visible even after vision is removed from all ?