Poll: Can 00Kyle beat u8t3io3p in bo11?

[O4L]

u8t3io3p the current ladder leader has been on such a impressive role lately. He has won chop tours, made it to finals in KOTH series 2vs2 tour, GoW 3vs3 tour, and won the Humans Only 2vs2 tournament.

His last series with 00Kyle was about a month ago where the games went as following

00Kyle (#2) defeated u8t3io3p (#1) on "Garden of War" at 23:36:59 on 03/18/2017.
00Kyle (#2) defeated u8t3io3p (#1) on "Garden of War" at 23:26:50 on 03/18/2017.
00Kyle (#3 → #2) defeated u8t3io3p (#1) on "Garden of War" at 23:12:15 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#3) on "Garden of War" at 22:59:15 on 03/18/2017.
00Kyle (#6 → #3) defeated u8t3io3p (#1) on "Garden of War" at 22:48:07 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#2) on "Bridge to bridge combat BNE" at 22:31:55 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#12) on "Bridge to bridge combat BNE" at 22:15:52 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#12) on "No way out of this maze BNE" at 22:06:35 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#12) on "Gold Rush BNE" at 21:58:40 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#12) on "Gold Rush BNE" at 21:44:07 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#6) on "Gold Rush BNE" at 21:31:59 on 03/18/2017.
00Kyle (#12 → #6) defeated u8t3io3p (#1) on "Gold Separates East&West L" at 21:25:57 on 03/18/2017.
u8t3io3p (#1) defeated 00Kyle (#12) on "Rivers" at 21:02:31 on 03/18/2017.

To me it looks like u8 has a better overall game play on a variety of maps. Do you think he would win this series KOTH style if 00Kyle was willing to do the showdown?

[~ToRa~]

The real question is does u8t3 aka Swagier believe he can beat 00kyle aka swift.

[BenJamin]

The real question is does u8t3 aka Swagier believe he can beat 00kyle aka swift.

If it was gow only the answer is no. If it were all the other maps then the answer is yes. U8 just doesn't have the required APM to beat kyle on gow or fastest maps.

[xXxSmeagolxXx]

Swift is very good at GOW he is definitely the best active GOW player left. He is up there with the greatest GOW players ever. In any BNE Swift would be up there but I highly doubt he's the "best ever" at BNEs. There so many BNEs with so many different terrains changing things up and lots of variables like water map or not. Kyle is definitely a good player but his ego and need to be the best turns a lot of people off besides the fact hes a troll and likes making people mad. On the other hand Swift can be personable when he isn't "living in an image" or trying to piss someone off. Anyway just my 2 cents.

[Igognito]

I think the real question is: Who wants to see the match with commentary!
I would like to schedule 1v1 master matches, where I sit as a watcher and record the game.
After I do a commentary and try to analyze the games like I had done for Shotgun/Knitterhemd matches.

For that I vote: YES

[~ToRa~]

Unlikely this matchup will happen any time soon.

[Szwagier]

we played 14 games and score was 8-6 (one gow didnt record cause pb(?) made saps)

why u guys care about it
 

i was streaming and it was 3h so u could rewatch it in 2 weeks

[~ToRa~]

we played 14 games and score was 8-6 (one gow didnt record cause pb(?) made saps)

why u guys care about it
 

i was streaming and it was 3h so u could rewatch it in 2 weeks

Can you post the link so ppl can rewatch it?

[mousEtopher]

we played 14 games and score was 8-6 (one gow didnt record cause pb(?) made saps)

why u guys care about it
 

i was streaming and it was 3h so u could rewatch it in 2 weeks

szwagier make me an editor at your twitch so I can highlight you/swift & other nice matches

[Swift]

U8 is a good player. However I am not currently well practiced vs good players, while he has been for many months. He has play been playing vs braviet/alf on gow and random maps almost every other day for several months, more or less.

If U8 is confident that he can take me in either a gow or koth series, and would like to play an official series then I am down.

[~ToRa~]

Lets make it a grand master challenge if this does come to fruition. This way there will be a prize at the end of the tunnel.

[The Legend of StarTale]

Honestly I believe Swift is better and not just on gow. Swift is very strong on a lot of bne/classic maps. The only edge I would give u8 would be on water maps tbh. U8 grinds out HSC games vs Braviet just about every day. Swift is a much faster, strategic, and thoughtful player. Though his strongest ability has to be the way he adapts to the player he's facing through a series. Swift plays differently vs top players. The longer a series goes, the more likely it is Swift is able to adapt to the player. Swift vs Viruz and Swift vs Shotgun have separate strategies and tactics. Not trying to take anything away from u8 though, as he is a very strong player and good on just about every map. The thing that blows my mind about szwagier is how low his apm is considering how good he has become. I think if they get to the late game that's what gives Swift a strong edge over him too. My pick for the bo11 is Swift

[Szwagier]

we played 14 games and score was 8-6 (one gow didnt record cause pb(?) made saps)

why u guys care about it
 

i was streaming and it was 3h so u could rewatch it in 2 weeks

szwagier make me an editor at your twitch so I can highlight you/swift & other nice matches

xurnt got it and he could do that...


apm doesnt matter

[mousEtopher]

yeah but burton's busy, add me too ok??

[~ToRa~]

If this match up does happen i'll raise the prize payout to $50 for the winner