How to kill 12/2 from 6 in a 1v1 on garden of war ef

[Yamon]

Tora.. the longer u are admin, the bigger of a pretentious douche bag you seem to become. Was a challenge made? Did I not just say like 3 times in the last week I'm done with war2? Are you at any skill level to engage in these discussions?  Find something useful to do with admin

what a perfectly convenient time to say that you're on my level. when you don't have to play me.

[Swift]

I have nothing against TK, he's a very good drunk, but when it comes to war2 he has nothing on Yamon - permitted Yamon plays to the best of his own abilities.

[Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)]

Yamon wasn't always very good, so actually I can sort of understand why tk would think he's on Yamon's level, but once the guy starts beating Lux that should be a hint he's probably moved up

[tk[as]]

Yamon I've said it multiple times, and multiple times we've played, and multiple times the series came out even or close to even..

[tk[as]]

Yamon is no better today than he was a year or two ago.. his competition is just a bunch of people who play a couple times a week instead of every day.. so he looks better.

[tk[as]]

The community is literally dying more and more every year.. a decent player a year ago is going to look like a top player today

[tk[as]]

Also.. lux is 4-2 vs yamon on gown ef.

[tk[as]]

Go look at ladder.. start looking at players records, then see how they do vs other players.. it's not going to take long to realize it's impossible to say "player a is better than player B"  .. because you will see player A lost to player C but player B crushed player c .. it's just different styles folks.

Perfect example.. I played dugz like 3 months ago while he was surfing and he ROLLED me .. hard.. but if I know I'm playing dugz I change my style and have no problem going even with him

[BenJamin]

The community is literally dying more and more every year.. a decent player a year ago is going to look like a top player today

Do you have examples?  Its not like players can't improve over that time span.

[~ToRa~]

^^ I agree I believe players improve each passing year. Which is why a player like Swagier can now beat a player like Viruz on a consistent basis.

[tk[as]]

The community is literally dying more and more every year.. a decent player a year ago is going to look like a top player today

Do you have examples?  Its not like players can't improve over that time span.

they can .. but most have already peaked out a long time ago. the most obvious evidence of this for me is that if i feel like i'm pretty much peaked out .. like i get to the point where i'm like "shit.. i cant time my peons any better, manage resources any better, continuously scout any better, hold my own expansions/prevent them from expanding any better.. im playing as good as i ever will without investing a lot more hours per/week into this game"  .. and that's typically i'm typically playing like 30+ hours a week when i get to that point.

so when i peak out the game becomes boring and i quit.. sometimes for just a little bit, sometimes for a long time ... and then i come back and have a lot of rust because it doesnt take long for me to rust at all.. so i play the same people i was playing before i left and they crush me .. but after a month or two (takes me a really long to unrust also) i'm right back where i was, and the people who had been playing continuously while i was gone (someone like spb) is at pretty much the same skill level as before i left.. maybe a little bit of new tricks or his style has changed a bit, but there are players who someone like myself can guage themselves on .. and i personally know i haven't got any better, but im competing right back where i was with those players

another thing i notice ... typically once a player peaks out (especially if they're considered like top 1,2 or 3 player for their time .. they get bored and quit war2 before too long. so the top players at the time have little competition, get bored, quit, and the lower skilled players take their place as top players, but they were never as good as the top player who left before them.

[tk[as]]

^^ I agree I believe players improve each passing year. Which is why a player like Swagier can now beat a player like Viruz on a consistent basis.

swagier can beat viruz for 3 reasons .. swagier has got a lot better in the last couple years no doubt.. but swagier is much more active than viruz ... so when you're watching them compete, you're watching someone who is active 6 months or more of the year (swag) play someone who is active 2 months or less out of the year (viruz)  ...

and when swag is the best competition the server has to offer, viruz isnt going to surpass him by much. some rare players (like swift.. ruz.. ) can play at pretty much any level their best competition is at.. if swift/ruz played 100 games in a week against eachother, swag probably wouldnt do so well against them if he played one of them after their 100 game series

... if i personally go play with say ilyich, tora, mousetopher, jos, or igognito non-stop for a week or two ... im going to get worse.. but if i go jump in some games with who we consider top players for a week or two i will get back to where i was.

[Yamon]

I have nothing against TK, he's a very good drunk, but when it comes to war2 he has nothing on Yamon - permitted Yamon plays to the best of his own abilities.

i mean that's about all there is to it. Your theory crafting isn't helping your case.

[I hate naggers]

TKs analysis is an enjoyable read to me in general, but i dont like when he attempts to compare himself to other players//get his ego involved. Cuz then it turns into an inaccurate shitfest

[Szwagier]

^^ I agree I believe players improve each passing year. Which is why a player like Swagier can now beat a player like Viruz on a consistent basis.

swagier can beat viruz for 3 reasons .. swagier has got a lot better in the last couple years no doubt.. but swagier is much more active than viruz ... so when you're watching them compete, you're watching someone who is active 6 months or more of the year (swag) play someone who is active 2 months or less out of the year (viruz)  ...

and when swag is the best competition the server has to offer, viruz isnt going to surpass him by much. some rare players (like swift.. ruz.. ) can play at pretty much any level their best competition is at.. if swift/ruz played 100 games in a week against eachother, swag probably wouldnt do so well against them if he played one of them after their 100 game series

... if i personally go play with say ilyich, tora, mousetopher, jos, or igognito non-stop for a week or two ... im going to get worse.. but if i go jump in some games with who we consider top players for a week or two i will get back to where i was.

woot? its not about how many games u need to play, its about how many games u need to play to GROW UP YOUR OWN SKILL, I played "only"
8k games since 2006 when this server start, i was few times inactive year or more, whenever i came back my skill GROW UP, there are many players who got X more games than me but they cant win vs me

For example there are many chop players, and they play one map again, again, again but they are still bad and i can still play with them and win vs them ( i am talking about 4x4 not 1x1 since best chop is 4x4)