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« Reply #105 on: October 29, 2015, 12:35:26 PM »
Read first and last sentence, didn't want to be caught reading the stupidity.

Just as a favor though, I'll help you out on this: A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism. This should be common sense though, sorry it went over your head.
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« Reply #106 on: October 29, 2015, 12:35:35 PM »
I just googled the definition and it pretty much exactly has everything to do with currency. Either directly or indirectly
nah bro including currency makes the definition too limited.  economy is all exchange of goods/currency/favors/anything between humans

yes economics can also be applied in situations without currency whatsoever, it's essentially the best possible way to do things, in an organized fashion. And Economics regarding a system, is the organized use of a countrie's materials. So it has a fundentmtal defitition, and a more specific one as well. Never one without the other. But defining the word Economics has actually been a huge intellectual struggle.

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« Reply #107 on: October 29, 2015, 12:36:55 PM »
Read first and last sentence, didn't want to be caught reading the stupidity.

Just as a favor though, I'll help you out on this: A capitalist doesn't need to believe in the theory and framework of popular american economics in order to practice capitalism. This should be common sense though, sorry it went over your head.

No that was already understood given your narrative, but it's not something that was worth pointing out. You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

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« Reply #108 on: October 29, 2015, 12:37:36 PM »
yamon you shouldn't read one book and suddenly take yourself to be totally enlightened.  not that i think you'd change your mind anyway seeing as how pumped up you are about capitalism and america, but really.
    

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« Reply #109 on: October 29, 2015, 12:42:57 PM »
I know its a bit premature, but I feel it would be very appropriate for all of us to address yamon as Dr. Zacheriah from this point forward

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« Reply #110 on: October 29, 2015, 12:43:12 PM »
yamon you shouldn't read one book and suddenly take yourself to be totally enlightened.  not that i think you'd change your mind anyway seeing as how pumped up you are about capitalism and america, but really.
lol i've done far more than read one book. but the lack of ethuisasm for captalisism is actually just pure ignorance. It's simple stuff. You do not look at the principles or proponents of an economic system. You look at the results. The argument i presume you would present, is an argument that is so old and tired, that it has been defeated 1000x over in America. Why? Because people look at the results of each system, and it's crystal clear, there is no system that can hold a handle to free enterprise. The standard of living in America , even for me, is of different magnitude than that in countries with centralized control. And it has been proven, that socialism or other centralized control systems do not appeal to intellectuals for their results, people think it's a moral issue. And this narrative can be heard anywhere on the internet and in dozens of books, and by the mouths of dozens of ignorant "intellectuals". Captalism is neither moral or immoral, humane or inhumane. It's a tired and defeated argument that keeps coming up due to ignorance.

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« Reply #111 on: October 29, 2015, 12:45:22 PM »
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf
    

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« Reply #112 on: October 29, 2015, 12:45:55 PM »
Dr. Zacheriah if you need a 2v2 how ally let me know. I can train you some more if need be.

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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2015, 12:50:57 PM »
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf

Lol. America is far from the nation with the most natural resources. America is far from the nation with the most land, or largest workforce. We are the most powerful country for one reason, one reason only. Captalism. Not because we steal resources. In fact, Russia has the most natural resources in the world. How are they doing? And to say we steal resources from other countries. I mean, I don't know if i can trust a book from a neoliberal to tell me whether or not america steals anything. People thought the Iraq war was over oil. We didn't drill a drop. But whether or not we steal anything is totally irrelevant. If you look back on history, stealing stuff from other countries would be considered a good thing. Why? Because hell if we can, why not do it? And look at America's intregity. Many people have been against such engagements as vietname, desert storm, or our involvement in Salmalia, But wtf we were doing there? Feeding people. I think a country that will risk the lives of it's children, to help another nations children, might be entitled to some resources. And we don't "exploit labor" from other countries. They get paid  more working in america's outsource than they would in a regular job in their country. But i agree i think america should not outsource as much and hire it's own people. But the only reason companies are outsourcing to begin with, is government regulation in the workforce, and if our enterprise was 100% free, we wouldn't be outsourcing at all and we would always be able to get a job without such formalities as a college education in cosmetology to work a factory job
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« Reply #114 on: October 29, 2015, 12:59:12 PM »
Dr. Zacheriah if you need a 2v2 how ally let me know. I can train you some more if need be.
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« Reply #115 on: October 29, 2015, 01:12:09 PM »
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« Reply #116 on: October 29, 2015, 01:16:04 PM »
You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

The popular economic theories and interpretations that you will be taught in pursuit of your degree are simply from a certain point of view, and they're not objective. It's a perspective on how to interpret and study economic systems. I do not have to believe in such theory to be a capitalist in practice, just as much as one doesn't have to adhere to modern American Christianity to live their life, or to be a christian for that matter (lol).
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« Reply #117 on: October 29, 2015, 01:23:37 PM »
You do adhere to americon economics. It's that simple.

The popular economic theories and interpretations that you will be taught in pursuit of your degree are simply from a certain point of view, and they're not objective. It's a perspective on how to interpret and study economic systems. I do not have to believe in such theory to be a capitalist in practice, just as much as one doesn't have to adhere to modern American Christianity to live their life, or to be a christian for that matter (lol).

You're both fucktards using different definitions of "adhere." Yamon is more correct by the specific definition of the word since your economic activity is dictated far more than the economic conditions of American society than whatever method of economic organization you personally think is optimal, you are correct that one doesn't have to specifically think capitalism is great to act as a capitalist. However it does make you a rather large hypocrite, especially since you seem to vacillate between "capitalism ftw! I'm better than you because I have money" and "capitalism actually kinda sucks I just do it to make money lol, Jesus saves folks" depending on who you're trying to paint yourself as superior to at the time.
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« Reply #118 on: October 29, 2015, 01:26:03 PM »
the standard of living sure as hell ought to be better in america than anyone else, seeing as it occupies the most powerful position in the world and uses that position to exploit resources and labor from poorer nations the world over.  here's a free book http://www.sok.bz/web/media/video/ABriefHistoryNeoliberalism.pdf

Lol. America is far from the nation with the most natural resources. America is far from the nation with the most land, or largest workforce. We are the most powerful country for one reason, one reason only. Captalism. Not because we steal resources. In fact, Russia has the most natural resources in the world. How are they doing? And to say we steal resources from other countries. I mean, I don't know if i can trust a book from a neoliberal to tell me whether or not america steals anything. People thought the Iraq war was over oil. We didn't drill a drop. But whether or not we steal anything is totally irrelevant. If you look back on history, stealing stuff from other countries would be considered a good thing. Why? Because hell if we can, why not do it? And look at America's intregity. Many people have been against such engagements as vietname, desert storm, or our involvement in Salmalia, But wtf we were doing there? Feeding people. I think a country that will risk the lives of it's children, to help another nations children, might be entitled to some resources. And we don't "exploit labor" from other countries. They get paid  more working in america's outsource than they would in a regular job in their country. But i agree i think america should not outsource as much and hire it's own people. But the only reason companies are outsourcing to begin with, is government regulation in the workforce, and if our enterprise was 100% free, we wouldn't be outsourcing at all and we would always be able to get a job without such formalities as a college education in cosmetology to work a factory job


You are extremely fucking retarded and practically everything in this post is false and/or unsubstantiated.
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« Reply #119 on: October 29, 2015, 01:27:54 PM »
did you know before modern society, we had two options. Socialism or Monarchs.

This is maybe the dumbest sentence ever written on this forum, which says a lot since Swift has 366 posts on here, which probably average about 500 sentences each on account of his frequent meltdowns.
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