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Buttercraft
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Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 22, 2023, 01:47:48 AM »
Hello, are there any plugins to get "Starcraft style" smooth scrolling in War2?
by default key scrolling moves the screen in 64px increments (and 32px if you click and scroll with the minimap)
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Mistral
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 22, 2023, 04:38:14 AM »
war2 cannot draw "half" of map square or 60/40 or any %
u cannot set camera in "between"
it can only be set onto fixed grid of 32x32
the entire war2 game engine is builded around this and u cannot overcome this
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Buttercraft
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 22, 2023, 07:47:22 AM »
I figured that was the case as HD plugin scales in 32px increments.
32px is MUCH smoother than 64px though, you can try it on minimap click-hold and drag, I think it's worth moving to 32px and doubling the default scrolling rate in menu for a better experience.
There are mscroll/kscroll references in the main .exe but I don't know where those three values (or tables) are stored.
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fois
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 27, 2023, 05:49:03 AM »
I just tested it and it does look nice, made a new plugin for it:
https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/Warcraft-II-Plugins/releases
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Buttercraft
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 27, 2023, 01:42:46 PM »
Great improvement and great work
Scrolling is now imperceptibly smooth at max scroll speed, but it is a little too fast, so I choose one notch down.
Is there a way to tweak the rates any further? assuming all the seven are hard coded in finite range.
If that is the case the sweet spot probably lies between current 6-7.
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fois
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 27, 2023, 02:13:58 PM »
It should be the same scroll speed as before, I could make it possible to tweak the values via an .ini file if needed though.
By default it would scroll over 2 cells every 20ms, with the plugin it scrolls 1 cell every 10ms.
If you know how to compile the plugin then you could tweak the 0x0A (= 10ms) here:
https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/Warcraft-II-Plugins/blob/main/SmoothScroll/w2p.c#L14
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Buttercraft
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 27, 2023, 03:09:24 PM »
I think an .ini would be ideal, there is room for improvement on the defaults.
Seems the lower settings are calculated/multiplied off one MAX value? which is why they cause judder effect.
Let's assume the engine runs in 60fps.
Possible values are
1ms (60/60)
2ms (60/30)
3ms (60/20)
4ms (60/15)
5ms (60/12)
6ms (60/10)
10ms (60/6)
12ms (60/5)
15ms (60/4)
20ms (60/3)
30ms (60/2)
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fois
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 27, 2023, 10:23:48 PM »
Yeah that could be true
I updated the plugin, you can play around with the new "SmoothScroll.ini" settings file if you want
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Buttercraft
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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March 28, 2023, 11:27:19 AM »
Thanks fois,
Ok the delay in reality is just a wait timer, it doesn't affect rate unless you miss frame timing.
10ms is only 1.67 ticks every frame, ideally you want >2x frequency.
5ms (10 ticks every 3 frames) is an obvious choice.
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Buttercraft
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March 28, 2023, 11:48:56 AM »
Maybe worth merging smooth scroll into next version of HD plugin, as it doesn't have alot of value at standard resolution anyway (IMO).
I am using crt-easymode.glsl shader with great results, works nicely at any resolution
-bilinear is just a switch in cnc-ddraw, you don't need the file present (just included for simplicity)
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fois
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Re: Smoother Key + Mouse Scrolling plugins
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April 10, 2023, 01:00:18 PM »
I prefer to keep it separate, it does work without the widescreen patch as well (might not help that much, but still nice to have)
Yeah I know that shader (it's also in my "shader-package.zip which I forgot to include in the widescreen patch...)
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