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Server.War2.ru / Re: Remastering Dying Games and Get Lost Buddy
« Last post by Pandaprewmaster325 on November 17, 2024, 06:42:40 AM »
Ah yes being rude towards new players will help the game being somewhat popular we did it Patrick we saved wc2!! By hurling toxic insults at new comers because they don't know how to play a game so freaking old , but like on a serious note why such obscure games with small communities always have people who been playing for so long and are so toxic??.

You don't need that stupid American no lifer for this game to get popular I personally don't want the idiotic WOW players to infest this game nope rather have the much more humble RTS players from other game franchises.

This may sound contradictory with what I said first but you know what if I have to be in the same community as that smelly piece of human garbage known as asmangold and his worthless fans I would rather let this game stay in its niche state either we have good minded people come to play this game or better no new comers at all
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Battletag add friends from w2 community
« Last post by Dudakurten on November 17, 2024, 06:42:08 AM »
OK, I created a War 2 group in the bnet app. Adding people there
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Pandaprewmaster325 on November 17, 2024, 06:32:30 AM »
Quote from: {Lance} on November 16, 2024, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: Pandaprewmaster325 on November 16, 2024, 08:45:31 AM
Why 17 times exactly? Well man I heard some criticism about its balance.

Still if we compare wc3 to older warcraft titles its better in everyway

Can't say much about comparing with SC as I didn't play SC1 or 2

1.  War3 was NEVER an "RTS".  It was a Moba that hadnt realized it was a Moba yet.  This is where DOTA came from (DOTA was originally a set of custom W3 maps) and then eventually League of Legends.
2.  It's resource cap was completely absurd
3.  It had no grid system (a requirement for anything with the word "strategy" in it,  see chess for proof of this concept)
4.  The graphics were horrendous compared to other games of it's time
5.  None of the units gelled well with each other
6.  There was no "strategy" to any of it.  It was mostly a level farming game at the very beginning.
7.  The game crashed way to much
8.  Starcraft 1 existed already and was much better
9.  Warcraft 2 existed already and was better than BOTH of them
10.  See #9 for the remaining 7 other items.

In otherwords,  war3 is a joke.  It's not even comparable to War2/SC because it's not even an RTS.



No strategy XD so you call spamming ogre mages "strategy" but god forbid having a hero with some RPG mechanics that allows for endless creative strategies yup yup definitely no bias here.

The upkeep system prevents certain strategies that could be abused and it punishes spam , warcraft in its core was designed as commanding few soldiers not to be spam like CNC games , in warcraft 3 throwing units at the enemy never works you have to use more than right clicking attack move.

It was never a MOBA its map editor and hero system allowed for the MOBA to be a thing wc3 itself isn't a MOBA its a RTS with RPG elements.

Warcraft 2 better than SC1 and wc3? On what? How? The game is sorely outdated it has poor and bland gameplay with no depth whatsoever  the balance is crap it plays poorly compared to  other RTS of the time such as age of empires 1 , now I dont know much about SC1 all I know is that it was where blizzard masterfully crafted a well balanced RTS with varying differences between factions thus creating the Esport scene (correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't SC1 the first Esport?)

Wc3 crashing you played reforged buddy? Its rare to have warcraft 3 crashing especially legacy versions such as 1.26.

The graphics are bad? Man did you look at age of mythology? It also dropped same year as wc3 , CNC generals would drop in 2003 and both look much more outdated compared to wc3 whom graphics manage to have a charm despite their age im a bit biased here towards wc3 graphics still it holds up pretty well when compared to other 3d RTS at the time of its release.

You seem to be just hating on wc3 for no reason without wc3 warcraft wouldn't  have an interesting story or iconic characters , wc2 was impressive for its time but it was outdone in every regard by other RTS games that came after it that's not bad as these games built upon the foundation laid by wc2 its an important piece of RTS history and that shouldn't be dismissed or ignored but does the game hold up in 2024? Nope not in story not in gameplay its only saving grace is its graphics and music.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Remastering Dying Games and Get Lost Buddy
« Last post by Shotgun on November 17, 2024, 05:26:21 AM »
Then they can go relive it with other crybaby newbies
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Warcraft 2 Remaster, by Blizzard Entertainment - November 13th, 2024
« Last post by Dudakurten on November 17, 2024, 03:17:47 AM »
Yea the fixed order is a bad thing and need fix asap.

However if you play another maps this became less important
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Warcraft 2 Remaster, by Blizzard Entertainment - November 13th, 2024
« Last post by {Lance} on November 17, 2024, 02:21:45 AM »
For those that arent aware,  there's another maphack'ish bug in the remastered version.  Fixed order.  In a 2v2,  the spots will be 4/5/6/8  with each player getting a random spot.  So if you're 4/6,  you know the other 2 are 5/8.  It's rather retarded.  So the only "fair" game is a 4v4.  Brett pointed this out to me.  I hadnt noticed because most of the games I played were all 4v4.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Remastering Dying Games and Get Lost Buddy
« Last post by LiveFreeorDie on November 17, 2024, 12:24:58 AM »
You want to be a king, but if you have no subjects, who will you have dominion over? A king needs peons to chop the wood.

You are pretty good at my favorite game, and that's kind of neat. W2 skills intrigue me. It's a fantaaastic game.

You may not believe me, but I want more happiness and joy for you than you seem to want for yourself. The more people that are playing W2, the more easily any W2 player can find a game, even at weird Australian hours. More people will keep coming back to W2 if they have a fun time on it. It's basic logic that you don't have to get emotional over.

Being nice to others will make you smile more. It's weird how that works.

(Your first inclination may be to reiterate that I should have rocks thrown at my head and be run over by a bus, etc., but really, I mean, that's maybe a bit overkill for having read a few words from an internet stranger.)

I've never wished you harm, and still don't.

There is a W2 newb called Asmondgold on YT who got 464K views 2 days ago playing W2 campaign. He has 3.1 million subscribers and probably made more money newbing it up on W2 campaigns than either of us have ever made in our lives. It's estimated that he makes 2.5 million dollars per year. Even if you don't do it for concern for others, even totally selfishly if you think it through logically, it would serve you to be nice to newbs since you never know which one can influence thousands or millions of other people that could either greatly enrich or destroy the game you love. Doesn't mean you have to play with them even, just be human to them since they are human beings somewhere who have bad and hard days sometimes and are maybe looking to use their free time to rest and relax rather than be insulted and told to gtfo from the new game they just paid for, maybe excited to relive some childhood memories.




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Server.War2.ru / Re: Remastering Dying Games and Get Lost Buddy
« Last post by Shotgun on November 16, 2024, 10:34:33 PM »
First time on the internet? Back to USA server you go
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Server.War2.ru / Remastering Dying Games and Get Lost Buddy
« Last post by LiveFreeorDie on November 16, 2024, 09:57:01 PM »
The W2 remaster is an opportunity for W2 to have a better, bigger future than that of a tiny, dying game.

Every person who spends money on this old game is looking for the same thing we are: they want to have a fun time.

Every "worthless newb" is a human being. In real life, they are office workers, cops, lawyers, managers, politicians, musicians, hotel staff, parents. Many of them are adults with limited free time. If they have a good time at W2, they are likely to play again. If they are treated rudely, told "Get lost, newb" and the like, there are countless other games, movies, shows, and things they can do for fun other than W2.

It's in the best interest of pros who love W2 and enjoy the glory of being great at something to have a game that is active and popular. It's in your best interest to be polite to newcomers, newb or not, because the future depends on having a playerbase.

I'm not saying you have to play with them even or make friendship bracelets for each other while braiding hair, just that you can say "We are playing with friends and need your spot" which won't leave such distaste in a person's mind towards the whole game experience and think "Wow W2 players are dicks".

This is an opportunity for W2 and it would be a mistake to apply the "ru welcome" (ie GTFO loser!") that successfully drove countless people out of ru.

The new "cool" is being considerate, welcoming, and friendly and forgoing the high of feeling above someone for a few moments of glee while bashing someone who thought W2 might be a fun thing to try.

Don't assume there is an endless stream of newcomers. If they have a bad time, they will find something more fun to do.

Not much glory in being "the best player" among 50 in a world of 8 billion.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: Warcraft 2 Remaster, by Blizzard Entertainment - November 13th, 2024
« Last post by {Lance} on November 16, 2024, 09:17:12 PM »
This is what a noob with 3 million followers looks like when playing War2 and having claimed to have played it before.  Dude says "Send him to the mine,  o wait,  thats not a mine thats a farm,  Im a fucking idiot".  I cant stand this assclown,  but he does have a lot of followers and a lot of people watched this stream.  It was rather humorous when he kept clickin on the otter and then it just spontaneously exploded.  The chat went apeshit.  The progression from complete pre-pre-noob to pre-noob just goes to show the campaigns truly did their job in teaching how the game economy and tech works.



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