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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Pandaprewmaster325 on November 19, 2024, 08:42:14 AM »
Well  I guess the RTS game catalogue has many games to appeal to everyone you got the casual RTS like command and conquer games , the well developed and quite deep combat in men of war and similar games that remove the base building , you have RTS mixed with RPG like warcraft 3 , pick whatever you like I say you guys open your mind a bit when approaching new games as this discussion about wc3 to me indicates that you guys expect wc3 to be just wc2 but 3d also indicates some unreasonable nostalgic attachment for warcraft 2 which I don't have.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Dudakurten on November 19, 2024, 08:25:27 AM »
Yea is more a personal thing I would say.

For me, I got no fun playing RTS with heroes/special units , collecting Items etc.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Pandaprewmaster325 on November 19, 2024, 08:20:06 AM »
It was never a MOBA its map editor and hero system allowed for the MOBA to be a thing wc3 itself isn't a MOBA its a RTS with RPG elements

Earth to retard,  the very definition of a MOBA is literally:  An RPG with RTS elements.

Or you could say it the other way around but it means literally the same thing.  In both cases,  it means it's NOT an RTS,  but is instead a MOBA.  War3 was released before it's own genre was known.  Blizzard set out to create something totally different from War2 and they succeeded in doing just that,  they created an entirely new genre called Moba without even realizing it.  Trying to compare it as an RTS on the level of SC or War2 is like trying to compare Tom Brady to your HS QB that was just pulled out of the crowd and has never played a snap their entire life and then saying they are better than the GOAT.  It's a joke,  War3 is not even in the same universe as SC nor War2.

Now, if you want to compare SC or SC2 to War2,  then that is a debate that could actually hold water since all 3 of them actually are RTS games.  However the grid system makes war2 shine as the better RTS IMO.



Mate MOBA is you controlling one character and running around clapping minions to level up and destroy enemy towers and enemy crystal or whatever that big building you gotta protect thats MOBA

Warcraft 3 has you controlling more than 1 person as you command the units yourself you have an economy to take care off and such warcraft 3 fits into the RTS definition what the heck are you talking about?? Warcraft 3 can be compared to any other RTS its the same genre mate...I don't get this love for warcraft 2 sounds like a load of nostalgia to me than the game being actually good well its not a bad game but needs updating and will be fine.

Also earth to retard?? What exactly you saying here

I completely agree with Chayliss on this.  Warcraft 3 does seem more of a MOBA than anything.  You do literally basically control one unit (plus some minions) and if your unit dies multiple times, you lose.  If your minions die multiple times you must make more.  The whole concept of Warcraft 3 is really absurd and appeals to a whole different audience.    It doesn’t really fit the barrel of a strategy game or just a pure MObBA, but def leans more towards moba than strategy. 

StarCraft and StarCraft 2 arr both build to maximize unit production, keep the grid system in tact, think more than just which hero is op at the time.  Plus the up keep system is a complete disaster. 

I always loved the Warcraft genre more than StarCraft. However if i wanna play another RTS I’m most likely playing StarCraft 2 or Age of empires series. 


I think you are simplifying it too much , warcraft 3 units have a lot of importance lol did you hear of huntress spam? Spell breaker strats? In ROC when it came out whole game was spam spellcasters LOL.

The way warcraft 3 was initially built as some sort of Role playing tactics or something like that then turned into RTS its just that units don't work so well alone , wc3 isn't a game where you throw units into enemy and win unlike warcraft 2 where the whole orc experience is defend until you get ogre magi and then go crazy.

Before warcraft 3 , warcraft was like the least polished  product of blizzard when compared to diablo 1 or starcraft it is however clear that blizzard favors warcraft over diablo and starcraft , warcraft 3 was a step in the right direction for the franchise too bad we didn't get a 4th installment or we did? Its called world of warcraft.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by dannyldd on November 19, 2024, 07:27:52 AM »
glad you think that way @Incos

A thing that didn't like much about Warcraft 3 is precisely about how much relevance they give to Heroes, instead of the actual armies.

It no longer matter the fact your army is the whole concept from the game, but instead are mainly the heroes.

League of legends and mobas just went even further to how important heroes became.
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Incos on November 19, 2024, 07:03:46 AM »
It was never a MOBA its map editor and hero system allowed for the MOBA to be a thing wc3 itself isn't a MOBA its a RTS with RPG elements

Earth to retard,  the very definition of a MOBA is literally:  An RPG with RTS elements.

Or you could say it the other way around but it means literally the same thing.  In both cases,  it means it's NOT an RTS,  but is instead a MOBA.  War3 was released before it's own genre was known.  Blizzard set out to create something totally different from War2 and they succeeded in doing just that,  they created an entirely new genre called Moba without even realizing it.  Trying to compare it as an RTS on the level of SC or War2 is like trying to compare Tom Brady to your HS QB that was just pulled out of the crowd and has never played a snap their entire life and then saying they are better than the GOAT.  It's a joke,  War3 is not even in the same universe as SC nor War2.

Now, if you want to compare SC or SC2 to War2,  then that is a debate that could actually hold water since all 3 of them actually are RTS games.  However the grid system makes war2 shine as the better RTS IMO.



Mate MOBA is you controlling one character and running around clapping minions to level up and destroy enemy towers and enemy crystal or whatever that big building you gotta protect thats MOBA

Warcraft 3 has you controlling more than 1 person as you command the units yourself you have an economy to take care off and such warcraft 3 fits into the RTS definition what the heck are you talking about?? Warcraft 3 can be compared to any other RTS its the same genre mate...I don't get this love for warcraft 2 sounds like a load of nostalgia to me than the game being actually good well its not a bad game but needs updating and will be fine.

Also earth to retard?? What exactly you saying here

I completely agree with Chayliss on this.  Warcraft 3 does seem more of a MOBA than anything.  You do literally basically control one unit (plus some minions) and if your unit dies multiple times, you lose.  If your minions die multiple times you must make more.  The whole concept of Warcraft 3 is really absurd and appeals to a whole different audience.    It doesn’t really fit the barrel of a strategy game or just a pure MObBA, but def leans more towards moba than strategy. 

StarCraft and StarCraft 2 arr both build to maximize unit production, keep the grid system in tact, think more than just which hero is op at the time.  Plus the up keep system is a complete disaster. 

I always loved the Warcraft genre more than StarCraft. However if i wanna play another RTS I’m most likely playing StarCraft 2 or Age of empires series. 
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Mods & Development / Italy need your help
« Last post by Larax on November 19, 2024, 06:31:42 AM »
Hi guys, this is my first time on this forum and I need your help. Since the Remastered version of Warcraft 1 and 2 came out, we Italians have been working to translate the titles because they are not available in my language. We have already translated, textually, both 1 and 2. Here, however, the problem arises because in the Battle.net version there was the dubbing in Italian that is not in the remastered. I extracted the files from the Battle.net version in the War2Dat archive but I only found the sounds of the units, not those related to the opening dialogues and missions like the audio of the movies, could someone help me?
P.S.: It's basically the first time I install or try to get my hands on the game directories so if you could do me the favor of explaining things to me as if I were a monkey
P.P.S.: I'm not good at English, I'm writing thanks to Google Translate
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Dudakurten on November 19, 2024, 02:35:27 AM »
Or is 2,5mb ?im bad with that lol
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Server.War2.ru / Re: warcraft 30th anniversary blizzard stream
« Last post by Dudakurten on November 19, 2024, 02:34:07 AM »
New patch 2,5gb ?
Is on track, not on production yet I guess:

https://blizztrack.com/view/w2r?type=versions
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Tournaments & Leagues / Re: Warcraft 2 Remastered Ladder League (WC2R)
« Last post by Szwagier on November 17, 2024, 07:17:31 PM »
I think we should first talk with this people, group on bn app is better at the moment since you need to log there if you want Play w2r
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Mods & Development / Re: How to open this WAR file from PSX?
« Last post by Mistral on November 17, 2024, 06:27:01 PM »
no i dunno
this is non standart WAR archive its not same as on pc version
you can try WarDraft prog but prob will not work
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