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Server.War2.ru / Re: new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?

« on: March 30, 2025, 06:24:21 PM »

im hoping blizzard has eventual plans to add some multiplayer features to the remastered version of the game

otherwise i wonder how hard it'd be to rebuild this version with the changes?

do you refer to import war2 remaster features in war2 Combat ?

Can you please elaborate what changes are you referring to ? Please dont hesistate to elaborate

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Mods & Development / Re: How can I test custom version of war2mod?

« on: March 26, 2025, 09:30:08 AM »

Hello everybody!

I have discovered sources of war2mod in mistral's repository here: https://github.com/Mistral-war2ru/War2Mod-Server and found that some functions I can try to change to work faster (all functions doing auras just iterating all units. Instead we can store for each cell which unit is in it and instead iterating all units just check nearby cells. So if auras have range 5 we can check only 11 * 11 = 121 cells, that will work faster if we have at least 122 units. And the same we could do with autoheal)
(It's all started when I making some map with triggers found that it was too laggy and unplayable when there are many units with auras so I wanted to know why, and when I saw the code as competive programmer it blows me up)
Also I am thinking on doing some AI improvments.

So this is my question, how can I join the server with my custom build of war2mod (I understand that I will drop in all games this way) or any other way I can play games and check it working? And if it will work faster to change the original version?

very nice !! your contribution is well appreciated !! Anything to improve War2 AI is very nice !

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Server.War2.ru / Re: $1000 1v1 GOW Tournament | Saturday | March 29 | 3PM EST

« on: March 25, 2025, 08:14:04 PM »

hey knitter nice to see you, yes it's me!

so here's the thing and why i'm wondering about this tournament. It's coming up this saturday, I've got a youtube channel about warcraft 2 and I want to promote the tournament

If I make a video, post it on all of the blizzard subreddits and get let's say 20k people to see the headline, let's say a few hundred of those people actually take the time to watch the video,
and then I say "hey guys, there's a free tournament this saturday where 9 grizzled veterans are going to beat the shit out of everyone on the same map and resourcecs they've been playing for the last 30 years, why not join?"

vs "hey guys, download this free game for a good chance of winning 50 bucks randomly just for signing up and having a good time on all of these cool maps and resources where you might have a fighting chance"

why not limit the random prizes to the amount of participants. So let's say you guys are expecting like what, 30~ people to join? Let's say we manage to market the tournament to people outside of the community and pull in another 60 players so now we've got 90 players - how many random prizes? maybe we have 2 random prizes for the first 30 players, and one more random prize for each additional 10 participants?

Either way, if I knew that I could make a video simply saying "sign up to win a piece of the $1000 prize pool with random participation rewards of $50 I can work with that. I'll promote it either way but if we want to bring new players into the game we need to market it to them, the guys already playing dont need marketing.

people would get more interested if there's more variety rather than seeing the same 5-10 guys as always, playing the same broken game balance with just Orcs heavily favored and the same literal map everytime, aka: gardens of War.

I dont try to be mean. But doing the same thing gets no better results

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In case people dont want to touch and modify War2 Combat (classic) in any way to get more attention, you can try out a tournament for War2Remaster, where people are *forced* to play other maps rather than just gardens of war AND, there's this Rebalance patch by Blizzard which makes a much more fair chance for Human faction to actually play in multiplayer

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Server.War2.ru / new ladder season + Blizzard-War2Remaster-Rebalance mode-only ?

« on: March 24, 2025, 06:39:04 PM »

hi, like title says i ask moderators or admins if is ever going to be another War2 Combat ladder season.

But most specially, wondering if this time will be added up a season with Blizzard-War2Remaster rebalance.

For the first time, in 30 years, I've seen one single Blizzard's official game rebalance patch for Warcraft II, where I significantly see a chance for Humans to be playable on the game, in frontal combat and in fair 1 vs 1 game.

For some very unknown reason to me, no people ever talk about it in the most populated and regularly visited War2 server. The only ones I've seen talking about it, are beginners - casual level people from War2 Remaster.

This rebalance patch may not be perfect, but its a legit intention for the first time in 30 years, to see Humans being actually playable.

Why no people interested in ?

Why no interest in making a whole ladder system with this rebalance mode, even if its officially launched by Blizzard Entertainment and made available by Ed gorod ?

Like if people would like to be hardstucked in OrcCraft II or BloodlustCraft II for ever.

My main concerning is that past Ladder season in the beginning of year, actually added up a whole set of different maps to play with, even if the so beloved Gardens of War was added up. But it still gave variety at last, even though it was same base game balance.

No intentions to fight, but would like legit answers to this, if ever possible please.

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I could understand 5 years ago, that people would think War2 would be stucked to Bloodlust + Death & decay for ever, since official developers never released a game patch or rebalance patch, but that's no more thanks to Ed gorod (most likely and other admins from community). Yet, even with official content, people still dont ask for stuff like the Rebalance mode which makes Humans finally an option to fairly win Orc oponnents.

Thanks in advance.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Couple of questions about hosting a tournament and the client

« on: March 23, 2025, 07:19:50 PM »

thanks
maps im thinking fierce ocean combat, nowhere to run or hide, no way out of this maze, one way in,
probably start with single elimination on one way in

and what i mean is when you download and install the game, windows says this program could be dangerous

the program is safe and its been used for over 6 years. Also, are you installing war2Combat v5.0 ? this one i read recently that is built up in a different way that stops giving this false virus alarm

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Couple of questions about hosting a tournament and the client

« on: March 23, 2025, 12:53:27 PM »

hi, for brackets you can use: https://challonge.com/

what do you mean about this? "as far as the client, is there any way to release a version that windows doesn't think is sketchy "

and what map(s) are you planning to set up for your tournament ?

good idea!

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Warcraft 2 High Level Commentary - Pro Games

« on: March 21, 2025, 06:17:54 AM »

do you just cast Gardens of War games or some others as well?

cool stuff to see a caster around, keep it up with the nice work

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Mods & Development / Re: can we make a map using all 4 tile sets into 1?

« on: March 07, 2025, 10:20:35 AM »

Yes and No.

Referring to what Ed said above, I can somehow make a thing like this to work but not in the nearby future.

On current mods, I've around 25 differen tilesets. Including the ones from base game.

Some of them share the same color palettes for the whole tileset sheets. So then its possible to combine. But i dont have them planned to do for now.

Not sure if this was ever possible in Starcraft 1 though. Combining different tilesets like snow + wasteland + space. Maybe its possible but the game may have same issue about color palette files.

It's a good idea, though.

I planned to use this feature from multiple tilesets, thanks to Ed, to make Ramps for example in War2.

This could be possible but Ed said vision would still be an issue since it not works like Starcraft AND... there's no tech to make hits fail like in Starcraft where like 30-40% of shots miss on high ground

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Server.War2.ru / Re: blizzard mode should be standard

« on: March 05, 2025, 11:55:52 AM »

I'm in support, but I've noticed that most players are strongly attached to keeping things the same. A lot of it seems to come down to ego. They resist change and justify problems in the game as skill-related instead. I think it's more about not wanting to adapt.

a lot of conservative stubborn mindset. But it happens in every single game. Those people, unfortunately, are the most loud to talk and resist about game changes.

Not just referring to audio/visuals, but just even changing the game balance for the better.

This game has 16 spells. Every single game is just bloodlust or very little to see Death & decay/Blizzard, if humans ever played.


I think a very large amount of casual level people would like to play with everything the game has to offer, from spells to units but they simply dont speak good enough about wanting it.

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Be that as it may, there're 2 "rebalanced modes" in Lobby, multiplayer games. For those who want something different, at least the alternatives already exist.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: $1000 1v1 GOW Tournament | Saturday | March 22 | 3PM EST

« on: March 04, 2025, 05:58:19 PM »

Will this tournament be played with the same War2 classic game balance as it has  been forever, or are you going to make it work with this small option in Lobby to allow Blizzard Remaster Rebalance ?

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Legendary players

« on: March 03, 2025, 08:10:40 PM »

Hey guys, I need your assistance. A week ago, we, the admins of the Russian-speaking part of the community, were approached by a YouTuber who wants to write a review of the multiplayer for Warcraft 2, with a request to give him several nicknames of legendary players. For this reason, I want to ask you a question: which players do you consider to be legendary? I would be very grateful for your help! 

Ed gorod

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Server.War2.ru / Re: blizzard mode should be standard

« on: February 23, 2025, 04:07:16 PM »

ya i feel like we shouldnt had made it a option .. just update the game with the new balance an if anything add the option below for "old blizzard" that they click to to be able to play the unbalance lust mode lol

It's glorious and wonderful you think this way, but specially to want improving the game instead of sticking with same stuff for another 30 years or forever.

Unfortunately as it is, many people disagree with you or me in these war2 communities and think war2 game balance is perfect and should never ever be addressed or fixed up.

Many dudes are stubborn. Straight up, even if you use 3/16 spells or less than half units the game has to offer. In pretty much every single multiplayer game.

If there was way more willpower, the game would of course be way more interesting and attract more people.

The closest you can get to "set Blizzard rebalance mode" as by default, is what I suggested to this guy called Dudakurten for his ladder system.

I suggested him that if ever wanted to make another "ladder season", then force to play all games in "Blizzard-rebalance mode". So you get a fair chance to play and WIN as humans race.

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Its just a matter of willpower to get the game more interesting, instead of that stupid bloodlust spam every game.

The game used to be very limited to mod, just till 2020 but no more. The technology already exists to mod and fix the game in so many ways but its up to people and community to get better and way more variety.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: blizzard mode should be standard

« on: February 23, 2025, 02:43:51 PM »

blizzard mode means War2 remaster re-balance being released as a patch by Blizzard.

It means, people were forced to play the new game balance proposed by Blizzard on War2 Remaster, whether they wanted or not to stick with the non-sense bloodlust spam (game balance) since 30 years ago.

If people actually wanted your suggestion with a better game balance, just like the one proposed by Blizzard on Remaster, then this option would have been available since the release on Remaster, but on Combat Edition.

Apparently, people prefer the old 30 years old game balance with bloodlust spam every single game, so it has been kept the same as it is. But having Blizzard (rebalance) as option is still great, yet I have not seen a single game where people play this way. Not even in a tournament or showmatch.

There is no willpower to change it, besides its possible.

Still, many thanks to Ed-gorod to make it available on War2Combat and its very welcomed.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: when is the next update to the game! some ideas

« on: February 22, 2025, 09:12:13 AM »

ok so i added the rally point plug in to my plug in folder but it doesnt work in game .... do i have to enable it? i just want to be able to use that with out having to use "rebalance" mode

The mod thread specifically states that *** Rally point *** feature is enabled for *** Single player *** games.

In multiplayer, you can enable Rally points, alongside many other features if you select in Lobby - game to "Rebalanced" or  "Triggers" modes. I dont remember which one of them.

The mod thread i did was most specially designed for Single player usage. Either base game or to make any more complex mods.
Single player = campaigns nor custom maps.

The plugins in that mod probably can work in multiplayer if all players share the same plugin in Plugin folder from War2Combat, but haven't checked it.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: when is the next update to the game! some ideas

« on: February 19, 2025, 06:50:55 PM »

cause u know people like the game broken an complain about the rebalance i just wana be able to host a version where its only rally points an hp bars above unit heads

i just said it above.

the mod is customizable across different addons. All installing instructions in that link above