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General Discussion / Re: mccain's death
« on: September 09, 2018, 05:49:38 PM »oh i created an irrelevant thread sorry
Lol, you faggot.
I wish you and CockSucker (@CumSavorer4385) were among the Vietnamese that were incenerated by napalm. FYL.
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General Discussion / Re: You Thought....
« on: June 05, 2018, 08:10:07 PM »
Shut up @BabyShark
No one cares what you're writing.
The only reason you're tagged in the messages is so you recieve them.
No one cares what you're writing.
The only reason you're tagged in the messages is so you recieve them.
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General Discussion / Re: You Thought....
« on: June 05, 2018, 04:34:39 PM »
Shut up @BabyShark
No one cares about your false rhetoric.
No one cares about your false rhetoric.
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General Discussion / You Thought....
« on: June 05, 2018, 01:04:38 PM »
@BabyShark
@CumSavorer4385
@marx was right
[Qur'an 3:119] ...But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: "Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets)."
[Qur'an 8:30] And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you to imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out (from your home); they were plotting and Allah too was planning, and Allah is the Best of the planners.
[Qur'an 3:120] ...But if you remain patient and become Al-Muttaqun (the pious), not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allah surrounds all that they do.
[Qur'an 4:76] ...Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaitan (Satan).
[Qur'an 3:127] That He might cut off a part of those who disbelieve, or expose them to infamy, so that they retire frustrated.
@CumSavorer4385
@marx was right
[Qur'an 3:119] ...But when they are alone, they bite the tips of their fingers at you in rage. Say: "Perish in your rage. Certainly, Allah knows what is in the breasts (all the secrets)."
[Qur'an 8:30] And (remember) when the disbelievers plotted against you to imprison you, or to kill you, or to get you out (from your home); they were plotting and Allah too was planning, and Allah is the Best of the planners.
[Qur'an 3:120] ...But if you remain patient and become Al-Muttaqun (the pious), not the least harm will their cunning do to you. Surely, Allah surrounds all that they do.
[Qur'an 4:76] ...Ever feeble indeed is the plot of Shaitan (Satan).
[Qur'an 3:127] That He might cut off a part of those who disbelieve, or expose them to infamy, so that they retire frustrated.
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 06:17:54 PM »Saying we are all monkeys is an obvious simplification. I didn't think I needed to explicitly state that humans are more physically/mentally evolved. Do you deny the similarities between man and ape?
I don't know what story your religion is telling you? I assume something about how there is a god that created you and the universe and he cares about your day to day life?
I haven't ready the Qur'aan or the Sunnah but I will venture a guess that both are filled with stories that nobody can verify from a guy that claims god spoke to him.
What facts do you want from me? Regarding evolution? As a Muslim I'm going to assume you deny evolution which is puzzling this day in age. I mean I can state hundreds of examples of evolution. Neanderthal/Australopithecus fossil record? You can put bacteria under ultraviolet light and watch it evolve right in front of you.
I never said that life was "meaningless, pointless, of zero consequence" I actually never said that and it is illogical to assume because I am not religious.
Do I deny the similarities between man and ape? Well, let's see, what similarities do we have with apes? Anatomical? Because physical build is totally different and at best resemble each other, like arms, legs, head, organs and muscles. We definitely do not have similar societies nor do we share the same level of intellect or cognitive understanding. So we are many degrees above ape in that regard and this is the dividing line. This is the key aspect that makes us absolutely different.
And yes, I know what you were getting at, but no, I still do not subscribe to that theory or ideology. I won't reduce myself and my intellect to be fed some nonsense that I descended from apes, becasuse that implies that I am still an ape, regardless of what you think technological evolution or societal evolution attempts to prove otherwise.
Again, you will continue with your guess work and assumptions, or you will go out of your way to know. The choice is yours.
I deny the theory of evolution (yes, it is still a theory), and yes, as I said, as a Muslim, I do not believe in that tripe. I believe we come from Adam, and Adam was created by Allah. You believe in the theory of evolution.
So it shouldn't matter what I believe, if you can produce concret, undeniable, unquestionable evidence for your beliefs, how could I deny them? But you don't, which is why your response was other than directly addressing the request. If I were in your shoes, I would have responded with the proof and evidence I was able to acquire to make my case.
And it is Allah who opens the hearts to whomever He wills to guide them and to know the truth and to ponder upon His creation. The Sunnah is explanation and legislations of rituals and Law.
As for the "hundreds" of proofs you can bring, none of those have you confirmed yourself. You were sold on the idea by specialists and you adopted them as your own, which is why you believe them to be fact, the same way I believe Islam to be superior over all other beliefs and religions (including your own).
And no, I can't put bacteria under untra-violet light and watch it evolve right infront of me. I do not have the money or resources to engage in that sort of research, so that means I would have to accept it from whatever source you would provide, funded and paid for by whoever, to convince me that it is the truth and anyone who denies it must be crazy, "in this day and age". Nor do I have the technology to date and study fossils, to come across the "fact" you provided. And reading some other man-made book telling me otherwise is not proof, it requires faith (it is a religious doctrine disguised as science). So we base life on what we choose to believe.
Have you actually done these experiments, gone out on excavations and have a lab to verify these claims?
Again, I didn't assume anything because you "are not religious", my assumptions were based on your beliefs that you are a monkey (or descendent of one, monkeys are your ancestors then), will you keep overlooking this fact? So if we were to really look up your family tree, we would find neanderthals or australopithecus and further up that tree we would find monkeys [and then single celled organisms? And then what? Nothing? And after all this, after death, do you believe there is nothing? That is it, dead and rotted, worm food? Then what real meaning or worth does you life have?]....right before you human lineage begins?
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General Discussion / Re: The Treachery of the Shi'ah and their Taqiyyah
« on: May 24, 2018, 05:58:26 PM »
I was unaware that the Shi'ah share their tongue.
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 05:29:52 PM »Religion is the cause of most wars and is responsible for countless deaths throughout history. The Muslim brand is particularly barbaric and the human race would probably be better off as a whole without it.
I am not religious yet I have no desire to lie/cheat/kill/steal as your doctrine would have you believe. I am nobody's slave and nobody is my slave.
More glittering generalites regurgitated by laymen with no knowledge whatsoever. Why won't everyone settle in their place, when they know that they know not?
It's like the saying goes:
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Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one
You keep failing to realize that the term "religion" holds no weight. "Religion" the way you are using it is a vague term that can apply to anything. So, to say religion is the cause of war is not entirely wrong, but, you have to be explicit in identifying the ideologies and the reasons for war. Because it isn't just "religion" as you vaguely put it. It is politics, intrigue, wealth, power, fame, honor, glory, and a whole mess of desires that have little to do with "religion", much less, Islam.
If you really want to say something, you have to be intelligent about it, and by obligation, you have to know what you are actually talking about.
The Qur'aan doesn't say that the disbeliever only lies/cheats/kills and steals. "As my doctrine would have me believe", my man, you don't know my doctrine. I know my doctrine.
You are a slave to your own whims and desires and conjecture, and to that of other men. I am a slave of Allah.
And if you have children, and you teach them this, then they become your slaves, ideologically.
But I get it, you're thinking of negroe style slavery. You have to think deeper, utilize the human mind and free it from the monkey brain.
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 05:25:00 PM »
@cracky.
You said:
I assumend you have no conscience because you said you were a monkey (an animal). I never said that because you "are not religious" you have no conscience. I was going by what you stated. And you bluntly stated that you believe you are a monkey (an animal). Human beings have a conscience, animals do not, and this is what seperates us from animals. If you identify as an animal, how can you have human characteristics?
I asked, what story is "religion" telling? You didn't give an answer, you gave an opinion.
The valid foundation of Islam is the Qur'aan and Sunnah. Now, it is your turn, what valid foundation does your outlook have? You say "proof" and "facts", like what?
The worlds population may be religious, but I am not making a case for religion (as a whole and vague term), I am explicitly talking from the Islamic perspective, in which case, every other "religion" is totally invalid, and is disbelief. As explicitly stated in the Qur'aan.
Atheism and agnosticism are reactionary oppositions to traumatic experiences with religion. If you were raised "religious" (Whatever that means), and you later abandon such beliefs, it is usually due to some trauma. The trauma is blamed on religion and 'science' is adopted as a complete revolt, with alleged "proofs" and "facts" (in regards to the metaphysical, not the physical, because I know people in this disposition like to play games).
Nevermind the fact that I was discussing secularist movements (which are about obscuring knowledge by seperating it from public perception), not full-blown atheism and I never mentioned agnosticism.
Regardless, the reason I didn't explicitly discuss atheism is because, from the Islamic perspective, atheism, agnosticism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Mormonism, Scientology, Secularism and so on fall under one category: Kufr (disbelief).
So no, only "1.6 billion" people of this world are religious, and they are known as Muslims. As for the heresy and secterianism, and deviation within Islam, then as per the authentic hadeeth, that within Islam itself, there will be 73 sects, all of which are in the fire of Hell except for 1 and that one is what the Prophet and his Companions were upon.
How is my final statement untrue? YOU said it, I am just going by the end result. It's a principle we apply to everything. You have adopted an empty belief, and this empty belief is the foundation of your life (unless Allah has Mercy on you and guides you to Islam) as of today. If your foundation is empty, wherein you consider yourself a monkey (or just at the level of animal), then what value is there to you life really? You believe you are merely on a some floating rock in space. That is all you are a monkey on a floating rock in space. What value is there to you or your existence that transcends your chosen animalistic state? What is the purpose?
How is my line of questioning illogical and your assertion that you are a monkey logical? How can you be a monkey (an animal) and then believe you have humanity (which is reserved for man, a conscious being). Perhaps you should really sit down and re-consider your beliefs about yourself and about your enviornment. I mean, unless you were raised like Mowgli, and you took Rudyard Kipling as your creator...even then, Mowgli becomes a man (and this shows how the Freemasons believe they can play the role of Allah, with literature).
You don't have time to "respond to the 6 pages of material"?
Why did you respond to it in the first place? I mean, even your response in this thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread itself.
You said:
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Well you falsely assume that if you are not religious you don't have a conscience. I can fathom being more than an evolved animal..
I assumend you have no conscience because you said you were a monkey (an animal). I never said that because you "are not religious" you have no conscience. I was going by what you stated. And you bluntly stated that you believe you are a monkey (an animal). Human beings have a conscience, animals do not, and this is what seperates us from animals. If you identify as an animal, how can you have human characteristics?
I asked, what story is "religion" telling? You didn't give an answer, you gave an opinion.
The valid foundation of Islam is the Qur'aan and Sunnah. Now, it is your turn, what valid foundation does your outlook have? You say "proof" and "facts", like what?
The worlds population may be religious, but I am not making a case for religion (as a whole and vague term), I am explicitly talking from the Islamic perspective, in which case, every other "religion" is totally invalid, and is disbelief. As explicitly stated in the Qur'aan.
Atheism and agnosticism are reactionary oppositions to traumatic experiences with religion. If you were raised "religious" (Whatever that means), and you later abandon such beliefs, it is usually due to some trauma. The trauma is blamed on religion and 'science' is adopted as a complete revolt, with alleged "proofs" and "facts" (in regards to the metaphysical, not the physical, because I know people in this disposition like to play games).
Nevermind the fact that I was discussing secularist movements (which are about obscuring knowledge by seperating it from public perception), not full-blown atheism and I never mentioned agnosticism.
Regardless, the reason I didn't explicitly discuss atheism is because, from the Islamic perspective, atheism, agnosticism, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Mormonism, Scientology, Secularism and so on fall under one category: Kufr (disbelief).
So no, only "1.6 billion" people of this world are religious, and they are known as Muslims. As for the heresy and secterianism, and deviation within Islam, then as per the authentic hadeeth, that within Islam itself, there will be 73 sects, all of which are in the fire of Hell except for 1 and that one is what the Prophet and his Companions were upon.
How is my final statement untrue? YOU said it, I am just going by the end result. It's a principle we apply to everything. You have adopted an empty belief, and this empty belief is the foundation of your life (unless Allah has Mercy on you and guides you to Islam) as of today. If your foundation is empty, wherein you consider yourself a monkey (or just at the level of animal), then what value is there to you life really? You believe you are merely on a some floating rock in space. That is all you are a monkey on a floating rock in space. What value is there to you or your existence that transcends your chosen animalistic state? What is the purpose?
How is my line of questioning illogical and your assertion that you are a monkey logical? How can you be a monkey (an animal) and then believe you have humanity (which is reserved for man, a conscious being). Perhaps you should really sit down and re-consider your beliefs about yourself and about your enviornment. I mean, unless you were raised like Mowgli, and you took Rudyard Kipling as your creator...even then, Mowgli becomes a man (and this shows how the Freemasons believe they can play the role of Allah, with literature).
You don't have time to "respond to the 6 pages of material"?
Why did you respond to it in the first place? I mean, even your response in this thread had absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread itself.
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 03:56:18 PM »
@cracky.
Actually, both systems are systems of slavery (there is no such thing as freedom).
You are a slave of either Allah [God] or you are a slave to creation, such as other deities or man (including yourself), or even inanimate objects like idols or money.
So you chose the latter. This is the simplest way of explaining it. Christians and Jews, choose the latter as well. Because it is not about belief alone but about obligatory actions.
And this is the purpose of mankind:
Worship is not just belief or faith. It is obligatory action such as prayer and fasting (for Ramadhaan) and so on. So Islam is as the name states, submission to the Lord of all that exists, Allah. Slaves of Allah. In other words, anything other than this is submission to the creation of Allah.
Slavery in Islam frees you from the shackels of polytheism, idolatry and worshipping men or prophets or saints or money or the stars or the universe or the sun, or the moon, or yourself. It lifts slavery from men, from the systems of men, to unite mankind under the banner of their creator.
Slavery outside of Islam, well, becomes quite obvious. You become an animal, a slave to whims, desires and conjecture. You become a slave to yourself. A slave to other men (revolutions are the result of this, protesting and so on), their systems (such as central banks, Masonic institutions and Academia), you become a slave to the alleged mandates of the universe, which has no power anything whatsoever but is under Allah's control. You become a slave to sex and drugs (both kinds). You become a slave to mental illness and the issuing authorities over your perception. You become a slave to the television, and entertainment (calculate how much money you waste). You become a slave to money.
Actually, both systems are systems of slavery (there is no such thing as freedom).
You are a slave of either Allah [God] or you are a slave to creation, such as other deities or man (including yourself), or even inanimate objects like idols or money.
So you chose the latter. This is the simplest way of explaining it. Christians and Jews, choose the latter as well. Because it is not about belief alone but about obligatory actions.
And this is the purpose of mankind:
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And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone). [51:56]
Worship is not just belief or faith. It is obligatory action such as prayer and fasting (for Ramadhaan) and so on. So Islam is as the name states, submission to the Lord of all that exists, Allah. Slaves of Allah. In other words, anything other than this is submission to the creation of Allah.
Slavery in Islam frees you from the shackels of polytheism, idolatry and worshipping men or prophets or saints or money or the stars or the universe or the sun, or the moon, or yourself. It lifts slavery from men, from the systems of men, to unite mankind under the banner of their creator.
Slavery outside of Islam, well, becomes quite obvious. You become an animal, a slave to whims, desires and conjecture. You become a slave to yourself. A slave to other men (revolutions are the result of this, protesting and so on), their systems (such as central banks, Masonic institutions and Academia), you become a slave to the alleged mandates of the universe, which has no power anything whatsoever but is under Allah's control. You become a slave to sex and drugs (both kinds). You become a slave to mental illness and the issuing authorities over your perception. You become a slave to the television, and entertainment (calculate how much money you waste). You become a slave to money.
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 03:38:20 PM »You are a monkey as well. It's only a degrading if you were under the assumption that you are something more.
Religion is a great story... however the most plausible explanation is that religion was invented as a form of social conditioning for the masses.
You are quoting the nonsense cultist lingo of other monkeys
Like I stated, you will percieve the world based on your beliefs (saying I am a monkey as well), but since Islam nullifies, and invalidates such a belief, it is discarded (because I am Muslim and my foundation is the Qur'aan and Sunnah; not Darwin or Dawkins or Hawkings and their like).
So, in your case, it is not degrading because you can't fathom being more than a mere animal with no conscience? You live life under the assumption that you will always be a mere animal?
What story is religion telling? I mean, the term "Religion" is vague and doesn't cover the purpose, nor does it accurately explain the details. It is more of a means to avoid a larger part of human existence due to either fear or ignorance.
Your most plausible explanation has no valid foundation, neither does your assumptions that the Qur'aan is cultist "lingo" of other members of your tribe.
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however the most plausible explanation is that religion was invented as a form of social conditioning for the masses.
What I find interesting about this commonly held belief (among the masses) is the failure to acknowledge that this is in reality, cultist ideology. Because it removes you away from the foundation of Human society (morality i.e. "Religion" i.e. more specifically, belief in Allah [God]), and reduces man to an animal (as a slave for the people who feed you this idea i.e. secularists, atheists, and so forth) who then become mere cogs in the machine and become cheap labor for massive corporations and secularist societies (despite the rampant corruption that takes place in so-called religious countries).
I mean, you have been socially conditioned to believe you are an animal, on a rock floating in space, a miserable existence, pointless, meaningless. And if this is the case of your belief, then you in turn become meaningless, pointless, of zero consequence.
Sounds like a good ideology for social enslavement at the hands of a few, wealthy, let's say bankers, as an example, who fund the Secularist agenda in schools (Seperation of "Religion" and state), and the science that is funded by their universities, advertised in their media. The same media that then manipulates and controls all your perception (no, you are not a "free thinker" if you regurgitate such beliefs), ridicules you (calling you a monkey or an animal and saying, "This is you, nothing but a monkey to be tested in, you and your family and your friends and everyone, for us to test on"), ridicules believers (by forcing secularism and atheism in school, movies and so forth, and reinforcing these miserable ideas into your mind), ridicules Prophets (by way of "Freedom of Speech") and so on.
In turn, you become even more worthless when you become apathetic to your condition (believeing you are an animal with the assumption that being human is a lie). Your humanity is literally taken away from you, robbed from you by criminal ideologies.
Why do you choose this? Who told you this was correct? Who told you you were nothing but a monkey?
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 03:16:57 PM »
@cracky.
And you may say that your beliefs apply to everyone, and this is fine (since this is your belief).
And I believe Islam is Superior, as Allah says:
In that case, you may see me as a monkey (or an animal) but from my perspective I see you as part of the human race, from mankind (even if your beliefs do not allow you to accept that as fact). Which means you have the potential to be elevated from your animal state (of unconsciousness) to being of those who are raised up as an example to the rest of mankind (hibernating in their animal state), conscious of the Truth.
Until then, you are an animal (by your own choosing) beneth that of man, subjugated to servitude (a slave of man if you will).
And you may say that your beliefs apply to everyone, and this is fine (since this is your belief).
And I believe Islam is Superior, as Allah says:
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It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it).
In that case, you may see me as a monkey (or an animal) but from my perspective I see you as part of the human race, from mankind (even if your beliefs do not allow you to accept that as fact). Which means you have the potential to be elevated from your animal state (of unconsciousness) to being of those who are raised up as an example to the rest of mankind (hibernating in their animal state), conscious of the Truth.
Until then, you are an animal (by your own choosing) beneth that of man, subjugated to servitude (a slave of man if you will).
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General Discussion / Re: How Marx turned Muslim
« on: May 24, 2018, 02:53:30 PM »There is no god. We are monkeys walking upright on a spinning rock hurtling through space.
Yes, you are a monkey, walking up right on a spinning rock hurtling through space.
Why anyone would adopt that self-degrading belief is beyond me.
As for me, then I believe:
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You [true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah (legal ways, etc.)] are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind; you enjoin Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah. And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith, but most of them are Al-Fasiqun (disobedient to Allah - and rebellious against Allah's Command). [3:110]
As for you:
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And had We willed, We would surely have elevated him therewith but he clung to the earth and followed his own vain desire. So his description is the description of a dog: if you drive him away, he lolls his tongue out, or if you leave him alone, he (still) lolls his tongue out. Such is the description of the people who reject Our Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.). So relate the stories, perhaps they may reflect. [7:176]
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And surely, We have created many of the jinns and mankind for Hell. They have hearts wherewith they understand not, they have eyes wherewith they see not, and they have ears wherewith they hear not (the truth). They are like cattle, nay even more astray; those! They are the heedless ones. [7:179]
You are more like a dog or cattle (in general), not so much as a monkey. I think it would be better, and more concise, in your belief, to refer to yourself as an animal.