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Title: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on May 06, 2015, 04:33:29 AM
In any fields/domains, any title is automatically put on the line be it football, chess, boxing or in any other fields.
Your win remains as a 'palmares' or title won. Any new season, event, the title won is put on the line. Warcraft2 being what it is, it might not be possible for a champion to 'defend' a title. As such, master tags should automatically lapse after say 3 or 6 months and each new tournaments would crown new 'masters' making more people play in tournaments.
Personally, I see 3 months being fine.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 06, 2015, 04:36:11 AM
Temporary - X months or until the next master tag tournament of the same kind (ef, f and custom maps are 3 categories i believe)
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: iL on May 06, 2015, 09:30:24 AM
I also think Master tag should be temporary, same as other custom tags.

Some custom tag means this player is better than other for some reason, but game is changing. Also if you pause playing, you leave your skill, you continue playing, you return your skill back.
I think we should stimulate active players to keep active, not someone played years ago.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 06, 2015, 10:08:14 AM
Do we really need to have a poll about this

Of course it should be temporary.  It's for a reigning champion or w/e

It's always been like there's 2 EF masters and an F master and then when someone runs a tournament with some players and promises a master tag, you bump off the previous one

People just haven't been doing it anymore

It's not that anyone has decided there will be permanent masters.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on May 06, 2015, 11:07:48 AM
Cool...Remove the tags then.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 06, 2015, 12:59:15 PM
It's always been like there's 2 EF masters and an F master
aight, so no custom map master then?

I think we should take care of the tags! I know medivh has one and probably got it recently, so it's ok. But all the others... and even the account "loser".... wtf :p take them off! And yo peeps, host master tag tournaments!
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Rit on May 06, 2015, 01:34:24 PM
master tags should automatically lapse after say 3 or 6 months and each new tournaments would crown new 'masters' making more people play in tournaments.

I like the idea of removing the tags after a certain amount of time.  I only worry about the ability to keep up with such a thing though.  I wonder if there's a way for them to expire automatically?

Quote from: blid on Today at 10:08:14 AM
It's always been like there's 2 EF masters and an F master
aight, so no custom map master then?

I think we should have a master tag for custom tournaments.  Perhaps we should bring that to a vote as well?  The custom community has suffered the most over the years and I think that this would be a good step toward it's revival.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 06, 2015, 01:42:53 PM
to me it's obvious that custom maps are hosted nearly as much as gows (or even more) so master tag should be given, but i wont argue about how 'pro' these maps are. Custom players never give a shit and rarely participate anyway.

all i want is master tag pool for CERTAIN maps/map pools and master tag tournaments. As for the latter, i think 8 player minimum necessary for the master tag tournament and advertisement at least 4 days before the tourney itself.

all the stupid polls lead to stagnation and nothing ever being done. Can any admin take care of the master tags?
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on May 06, 2015, 02:10:30 PM
Yeah I think it's a hoos step forward towards more interesting tourneys and players participation...
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on May 06, 2015, 02:11:57 PM
And  claw,  my polls are productive!  Remember action taken on my poll against advertising hacks.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 06, 2015, 02:51:09 PM
Well but then we'd have to define "custom"... pballs are custom technically, gow TE is a custom. Any non-bne map is a custom, such as blids shitty beloved reel around the fountain. Are we going to limit "custom maps" to a certain custom maps with (relatively) high skill cap? or let 60men tournament take master tag away from a chopper or archers champ? having a poll on everything is tiresome when just one reasonable admin could be in charge of everything...

anyway, id like an admin to approve the very basic guidances i suggested

8 player minimum necessary for the master tag tournament
advertisement at least 4 days before the tourney itself.

and we're good to go ahead and start new master tag tournaments. Also wipe all the old master tags other than medivhs i think.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Rit on May 06, 2015, 03:11:48 PM
Well but then we'd have to define "custom"... pballs are custom technically, gow TE is a custom. Any non-bne map is a custom, such as blids shitty beloved reel around the fountain. Are we going to limit "custom maps" to a certain custom maps with (relatively) high skill cap? or let 60men tournament take master tag away from a chopper or archers champ? having a poll on everything is tiresome when just one reasonable admin could be in charge of everything...

Well, if they expire after a certain amount of time, I think we can just leave it at that instead of taking away when someone else wins another tournament on another map.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: mousEtopher on May 06, 2015, 03:16:37 PM
There's also the fact that we can have an infinite number of tags... so doesn't have to be JUST a master tag. Could award e.g. a "Chop" tag for chop tournies or something, or a choice of three tags to the winner, or the option of having a custom tag designed (within reason), etc. etc.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 06, 2015, 03:19:21 PM
Good point. Gogo ef master, f master, chop master (chop farms, chop no farms, jammin, mad) and, ummm, what would we call all the macro oriented maps? BGH, KOTR, archers, c6.... And 3v3arena doesnt really fall into either category. However, if we have custom icons for each category, theres basically no discussion whether custom players "deserve" tag. Yes they do, and its up to players whether theyre going to respect "chop master", "60 men master" tags or not :3
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 06, 2015, 03:47:24 PM
It should be with permanent and with me as the only Master. The actual way it was intended, and earned.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 08, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
It should be with permanent and with me as the only Master. The actual way it was intended, and earned.

(http://www.twonkhammer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Implied-Facepalm.jpg)

Temp. Only.

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Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: O4L on May 08, 2015, 07:30:29 PM
I can host a master gow ef tournament Sunday if that's enough time? If not  I can just have it non master.

Swift did hit it home though. I think when new icons are introduced, Swift & Viruz need one just for them that is above master. Then it would be a even playing field for the rest towards MASTER.

Or keep Swift and Viruz as MASTER and change everyone else's goal to something else.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 08, 2015, 07:32:11 PM
There was a Master tag for custom before, I just forgot to mention it
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: O4L on May 08, 2015, 07:35:10 PM
There was a Master tag for custom before, I just forgot to mention it


Jater right.

master icons for custom player was changed after that to I believe Subzero at the Festival V tournaments.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 08, 2015, 07:37:08 PM
These are the people with the master tag.

I don't even know who all these people are

a_n_d_r_z_e_j
Guan-Yu
Jater
Shaun
ItS_HoT_In_HeRr
swift
tyrus
ViRuZ
Rat
LeGoLaS.iT
LoSeR
~Babypeon
BHC-JesK
~Poscow
Terror[iS]
BenPile
Medivh
iltest22
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: O4L on May 08, 2015, 07:39:31 PM
lol.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 08, 2015, 07:43:33 PM
The one i really don't know is loser.  wtf.  That's the guy who leaves at the end of every game, how would he have one
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 08, 2015, 07:43:46 PM
i just tried to remove them all but i think i failed.  may have to try again
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 08, 2015, 07:46:12 PM
MySQL said: Documentation

#1142 - UPDATE command denied to user 'blid'@'localhost' for table 
>:(
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 08, 2015, 08:31:46 PM
It should be with permanent and with me as the only Master. The actual way it was intended, and earned.

([url]http://www.twonkhammer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Implied-Facepalm.jpg[/url])

Temp. Only.

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dont copy my memes u zero-creativity-dumbtard lolololo


http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,560.msg7407.html#msg7407 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,560.msg7407.html#msg7407)
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 08, 2015, 08:39:45 PM
It should be with permanent and with me as the only Master. The actual way it was intended, and earned.

([url]http://www.twonkhammer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Implied-Facepalm.jpg[/url])

Temp. Only.

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dont copy my memes u zero-creativity-dumbtard lolololo


[url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,560.msg7407.html#msg7407[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,560.msg7407.html#msg7407[/url])

I never "copied it", dont think you own the rights to Tommy Lee Jones [emoji12] so let me just say fuck you and ill do what i wish. Also, PedoKing its pretty sad that you still remember when you used a specific meme and claim it to be urs. Sad. [emoji20]

U = [emoji90] [emoji107]

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Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 08, 2015, 08:43:50 PM
of course i remember ... biznatch 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


dont see how that is sad tho, i think it connotes my great conscious and kickass memory
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 08, 2015, 08:54:29 PM
of course i remember ... biznatch 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)


dont see how that is sad tho, i think it connotes my great conscious and kickass memory
No its sad. [emoji107] u = [emoji90]

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Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on May 08, 2015, 09:57:12 PM
I tried and it worked. Let me know if it did not update...
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 08, 2015, 10:59:45 PM
MySQL said: Documentation

#1142 - UPDATE command denied to user 'blid'@'localhost' for table 
>:(
Lmfao

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Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 09, 2015, 12:03:09 AM
I tried and it worked. Let me know if it did not update...
i already did it so now we both did it so im sure it worked.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 09, 2015, 03:59:16 AM
Swift did hit it home though. I think when new icons are introduced, Swift & Viruz need one just for them that is above master. Then it would be a even playing field for the rest towards MASTER.

Or keep Swift and Viruz as MASTER and change everyone else's goal to something else.

Nooo, not two of them! Make them fight for it in an ef/f mixed bo11 epic seriez!! and only winner gets one

aaaanyway, as for special tags for special people and exceptions, no, not a fan of that. But how about this counter proposal:
1. 1st time master tags a regular master tag
2. 2nd, 3rd time master tags for the same player will be a slightly different master tag (different color or smth?)
...
3. After 3 or 4 master tag wins, a new, "arch master" icon would be granted to that player every time he wins a master tag tourney
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 09, 2015, 04:01:42 AM
Just a little history on the Master tag:

Before the Master tag was even brought to .ru, back when Ldir was the host of .ru and Burnt was the head admin, Ldir messaged me saying he heard I was the best on .ru, and so he wanted to extend a challenge to me. He told me that if I could 10-0 the best Russian player (in his opinion) that he would give me a brand new "Master" tag, and that this tag would be permanently and exclusively mine. He said that he got to pick the watchers, the series had to be on the VPN server, and i had to Warvid.  I accepted the challenge and I won. He stuck to his word and gave me the Master tag.

However, Burnt who had a vendetta against me at the time stated that the master tag will be taken from me and used for "tournament winners". He did such, and then argued with Ldir about it for a few weeks here and there at best. Ldir tried to stop Burnt from doing it but eventually gave up arguing and essentially said to me that he was sorry for burnts actions and confused by them but that he also appreciated burnt for his work towards war2 and that the choice was ultimately up to burnt because he had originally given burnt control over .ru, long before his promise to me.

Very few besides Burnt and Ldir even probably remember this.

So you can all thank me for bringing the master tag to .ru, then proceed to strip everyone else of their fraudulent one's and not hand anymore out. Go make up your own tags.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 09, 2015, 04:09:09 AM
well i believe bronze, silver and gold "champ" icons plus one "arch master" is not much of a technical difficulty if the admins are willing :p
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 09, 2015, 04:13:06 AM
arch champ*

No, but I actually like your system. It's a good idea.

And "champ" or something of the sorts is more particular anyhow
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: mousEtopher on May 09, 2015, 09:42:15 AM
I also vote for all new icons. Master & Profi have been around for years, let's branch out.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 09, 2015, 09:59:53 AM
nooo, fuck votes, my idea is good enough to be instantly implemented! gogo brozne, silver n gold Champ/master/whatever and one arch master icon !!!
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 09, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
The only permanent master is MasterKsa.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 09, 2015, 11:48:16 AM
and bhc-master?
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 09, 2015, 12:12:58 PM
I want sum boobz as icon
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 09, 2015, 01:17:55 PM
The only permanent master is MasterKsa.

Proceed to remove all Master icons aside from mine
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 09, 2015, 01:39:12 PM
You can be the sole and permanent master if you can beat MasterKsa 11-0.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 09, 2015, 02:14:05 PM
how about I 11-0 you for it
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 09, 2015, 02:21:40 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kWpnrO8adrw/VIkkYUJLzeI/AAAAAAAAAg4/6bw6UMt7C9k/s1600/trial-by-combat.gif)
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: EviL~Ryu on May 09, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kWpnrO8adrw/VIkkYUJLzeI/AAAAAAAAAg4/6bw6UMt7C9k/s1600/trial-by-combat.gif[/url])

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Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 10, 2015, 02:42:03 AM
I tried and it worked. Let me know if it did not update...
i already did it so now we both did it so im sure it worked.

1. i dont think the master tag should have been taken away from medivh
2. loser has his master tag back... has the change not sticked?
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Teron-Gorefiend on May 10, 2015, 03:25:13 AM
Lmao.  Out of all the people,  losers tag didnot stick? I saw him without the master's tag yesterday.  Either he has some 1337 skills or some pussy admin balked and gave it to this crybaby!
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on May 10, 2015, 12:10:06 PM
how did loser ever get a master tag to begin with?  is he hacking himself a master tag?
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 10, 2015, 12:43:50 PM
well the only remotely likely scenario is that loser = subzero and he won some strange ass custom master tag tournament i havent heard about :p shoulda ask burton about that
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on May 10, 2015, 12:49:40 PM
maybe the tag doesn't remove itself until the player wins a game......

with RU bugs u never know :P
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: I hate naggers on May 10, 2015, 01:06:11 PM
nooo, jesk had a master tag back today too
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Swift on May 10, 2015, 06:45:18 PM
Burnt, you need to own up to your actions.
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Delete mine too on May 12, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SocxTerror on June 07, 2015, 01:42:12 AM
Hi,

I feel like these tags should be permanent. Not because I have one, but because its an achievement (trophy if you will). For the last 3 or 4 years(?) I have participated in the tournaments and held my F title. I can understand people with 1 win fighting for the tag, but if youre a consecutive winner it really should not even be up for debate. Worst case scenario give the people with multiple wins a Hall of Fame tag. You don't go to an olympians home and take his gold medals after hes done competing, do ya?

Just my input - also wanted to post so that I can unlock the arcade games,

Terror[iS]
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: SmurfKinG on June 07, 2015, 01:46:02 AM
maybe let be there 4 active master tags.

p.s. good luck trying to beat me @ pacman
Title: Re: Master TAG - Should it be permanent or temporary?
Post by: Winchester on June 07, 2015, 03:14:18 AM
p.s. good luck trying to beat me @ pacman

Gl beating me at snake!