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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: USA~Archer on April 24, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
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This seems to me to be a missing rule, like how linking to hacks isnt against the rules.
Backstabbing is a particularly heinous crime in pball, where your units are all 1/1, and you have some douchebag on your team who waits until the 2min mark then rushes to give you a loss, and youre dead before you can even find the unally button.
This happened to me yesterday, but thanks to fast acting by xXxSmeagolxXx we coordinated a successful rescue, got it on War2Video, and asked the admins for the AKA and IP of the BSer, but was denied because "no rule was broken"
Bullshit if you ask me. Anyone here want to defend backstabbing?
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This guys AKA and IP should be exposed for all to humiliate him for his unsuccessful backstab, and ban him from games
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Why not start a poll? Can we get a polling board already? :D
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Don't think it's a loophope, I don't even think DISCING is against the rules. Just against the general server 'nice guy' etiquette.
Personally I think youre overreacting. Yes, pball games are easiest to bs on, but its for a reason - they are generally hyper dynamic and all end within 2-3 minutes. Not much time is lost here...
It's also allowed to stay after the game is "over" on chop farms (with farms behind the woods), which may cost everyone a lot of time to sapp the way to them/get air... especially if the game ended early. so the "loss" here is even bigger...
It's allowed to ruin games as a watcher, which can also be very impactful and the general time loss would also be bigger here.
If we're talking stats and you don't want to take the 'unfair' loss here, I think it's only fair that we forbid 'unfair' wins as well - wins coming from watching, wins coming from AVing when the player lost...
To conclude, I don't think 'stats' argument is enough to make this any reasonable at all, and if we were to change it because of the "net time loss of all the players in game", a lot more rules should be added to maintain coherency.
Personally, yes, I am defending backstabbers and don't think anything should be changed regarding that matter. You just, errr, ban the dude next time.
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Haha valid points claw, and theres really not much loss involved like you said : a 2 min game and another loss for my already shit stats card, who cares i guess. Just hope it doesnt become a real problem like it used to be on battle.net: 60men is one of the only "unhackable" maps, so to get back at us people would constantly try to sneak in to our games and BS
Adding a rule could complicate things i guess, i would personally just like to be awarded his AKAs and IP however for my own banning and to make fun of him
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Definitely don't see the need to expose someone's IP or aka just because they killed you in a game. Backstabs suck, but they can be done without hacking the game, so they're part of the game.
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Bullshit blid!! Gtfo with that man ;)
Ruining a fair game, or tricking somebody... yep sounds like a free win hack to me BAN!!
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What if everyone started backstabbing.
Then it would be a non stop free for all.
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Then join a ffa game.
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Just stop playing them. Simple. The more people stop playing them, the less likely they will repeat that.
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Definitely don't see the need to expose someone's IP or aka just because they killed you in a game. Backstabs suck, but they can be done without hacking the game, so they're part of the game.
Hackers and backstabbers should be treated equally with exposed IPs, AKAs, bans and should be made fun of by the community
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And blid shouldnt have any vote on anything, he shouldnt even be an admin, but he should at least have to recuse himself from any issues involving pball because of his own admitted prejudice which creates a conflict of interest in all judicial matters
5- ban all pball players
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And blid shouldnt have any vote on anything, he shouldnt even be an admin, but he should at least have to recuse himself from any issues involving pball because of his own admitted prejudice which creates a conflict of interest in all judicial matters
5- ban all pball players
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oh don't worry about #5, i think it was an obvious trolling directed at me, but i didn't take the bait 8) We'll see blid gone sooner than we'll see pballers being banned for nothing, no worriez
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This seems to me to be a missing rule, like how linking to hacks isnt against the rules.
I also asked about to prohibit that by Rules, people answered they don't care and they are happy to just stop play with BS'ers.
That's why it's olny in etiquette part, not Rules.
Maybe to make a poll about that?
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Yes make a new poll.
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Backstabbing someone are not against rules because backstabbing someone dint need to use secret software to have an advatange against someone.
Backstabbing someone is totally legit, if you dont like to get backstabb dont play with backstabber.
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archer
get creative
someone backstabs u?
pull the plug and call a disconnect :P
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
fight fire with fire i say!
lmao
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i'd probably do that, yes :)
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Haha will do that next time if I cant escape. Luckily smeagol saved me and we defeated the bser tho so it was still pretty lulzy
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I prefere to die like a man compare discing like pussy.
Only newbs cares about stats.
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EQ, you and blid are so irrational, i cant even tell when youre being serious or just trolling
Theres nothing "manly" about attack your ally and kill his army as they stand there and dont fight back
Discing on a BSer is not about stats, its about taking the joy away from someone trying to ruin your game and give you a loss
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EQ, you and blid are so irrational, i cant even tell when youre being serious or just trolling
Theres nothing "manly" about attack your ally and kill his army as they stand there and dont fight back
Discing on a BSer is not about stats, its about taking the joy away from someone trying to ruin your game and give you a loss
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Im sorry but even in real life you see country backstabb other when war happen.
I mean if your not enouph good to protect yourself against backstabb dont ally them and ban them, thats your own job, not staff job.
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Were talking about pball, where in a matter of seconds you can be rushed by your ally and killed before you can even unally to fight back. All i ask is for this persons IP and AKA to be revealed, i even have war2video for proof.
This cowardly act should be discouraged heavily by any means neccessary, it is not just "part of the game"
Even in game like gow, what if its a 2v2, and you take on both enemies, defeat them both, but your ally just builds his army and does nothing then kills you once you are run down from winning a 2v1, you want to promote this as fair, part of the game?
Countries hack other countries in real life too, your argument is irrelevant
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Were talking about pball, where in a matter of seconds you can be rushed by your ally and killed before you can even unally to fight back. All i ask is for this persons IP and AKA to be revealed, i even have war2video for proof.
This cowardly act should be discouraged heavily by any means neccessary, it is not just "part of the game"
Even in game like gow, what if its a 2v2, and you take on both enemies, defeat them both, but your ally just builds his army and does nothing then kills you once you are run down from winning a 2v1, you want to promote this as fair, part of the game?
Countries hack other countries in real life too, your argument is irrelevant
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Yes this is totally fair since the game allow you to do it...
It's not a hack it's not a cheat it's just a bad behavior, if you dont like to play with peoples of this kind your always able to do your own job and ban them, if they smurf, ban smurf.
Your suppose to know your pball community since you take cares of it, thats your job to form that peoples.
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Backstab is trolling and trolling is a time honored tradition.
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lol wtf blid ur signature takes 60% of my laptop screen.
we need some limitations on this.
i used to disable signatures from showing but decided was not the best way... [might miss important data]
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60% of your laptop screen? Wtf? each image is only 100 pixels in height and they sit side by side, should only take 100 pixels. On my screen they end around the same as my avatar and therefore add no extra space to my posts
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how can you even prove you were backstabbed? i see a rule like this becoming frame-central
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you'd need a warvid or an insight vid i guess
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In this case he has a warvid of it. Video is probably the only way?
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Let's also add a rule for no attack 5 minutes.