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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: ~ToRa~ on February 13, 2025, 06:51:10 PM
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Hey all -
Will be hosting a GOW 1v1 Tournament on Saturday, 03/22, at 3pm EST.
Prize Payouts are the following,
1st: $600
2nd:$300
3rd:$100
Hope to see everyone there!
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It's been a long time since we have done a 1v1 tournament and was requested by more than 1 player to host one.
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hi, how to sign up ?
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You should make the following weekend
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Semi-pro got 3# in the last gow tour. Postpone will not save you sg
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Fre$h, I noticed that you haven't added the war2.ru link to the title of all of your videos. I'll put it in mine to demonstrate.
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Was the championship gonna be moved off a week? I am sorry fre$h, i know i already told you but wanna say publicly sorrry our evil plan will not work.
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Will the date be changed ?
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I donno they troll me really hard. Plus im really gullible.
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Will this tournament be played with the same War2 classic game balance as it has been forever, or are you going to make it work with this small option in Lobby to allow Blizzard Remaster Rebalance ?
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Here is a hype video. I dont think they will be doing archersz version in championship. I saw a humans player using them and knew he was from remastered.
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Due to feedback and overall interest I will be pushing this tournament back by 1 week to Saturday 03/29
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Good for me. 7 extra days to become better than SG.
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Hey guys I got a few questions
I was thinking of doing the same thing but since you're already doing this, why not do it in a way that's going to attract new players to the game? How many people can join and where do you sign up?
Instead of giving the money to the top 3 , why not give 50% to the top 3 and 50% randomly to new players that sign up and play in the tournament? I just started a youtube channel a few weeks ago and it's gaining a bit of traction, i could push this to a lot of people and probably drum up some interest Like 10 random $50 prizes.
Also why not do a map format that'll make for interesting content - old/ef i mean you're basically limiting the players that have a chance of winning to like 5 players. I was thinking one way in one way out to start (get the first few rounds done early) maybe nwtr followed by FOC/low or something.. I mean, it's your tournament but I just figured it could be a good opportunity to push the game hard.
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We've always had this issue. The problem is too many (dbag) players will pretend to be new, and they aren't. It's happened before. People even do it now w/out the tourney. We've done non-pro tournaments, but it seems tier 3 and below don't have interest, as they are less competitive people imo.
No max number of people can join. GOW is what everyone feels most comfortable playing. Many top players won't play otherwise. Duda has hosted many of these other tournaments before with some success but not close to a big GOW tourney success. If only 2-3 of the top 10 players play, it's still just destruction until semi-finals. GOW has more people watching as well. U8 can get over 100 players on his stream.
Usually, you'll see players practicing the week of. I haven't seen anyone. Not sure how well this one is going to work out.
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I think a lot of people would spend an hour downloading/playing a game for a 3% chance of winning 50 bucks assuming we get ~300 people interested and half the pool split into $50 random prizes
We could even do categories like dumbest name, most embarassing loss, worst player of the tournament, etc - I'm not saying have a noob tournament, im saying let noobs join the tournament.
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I think a lot of people would spend an hour downloading/playing a game for a 3% chance of winning 50 bucks assuming we get ~300 people interested and half the pool split into $50 random prizes
We could even do categories like dumbest name, most embarassing loss, worst player of the tournament, etc - I'm not saying have a noob tournament, im saying let noobs join the tournament.
We don't restrict people from playing.
All players are allowed to play and are encouraged to play.
As Harry mentioned we have done lower tier tournaments in the past but our community is too small at this point in time.
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I think a lot of people would spend an hour downloading/playing a game for a 3% chance of winning 50 bucks assuming we get ~300 people interested and half the pool split into $50 random prizes
We could even do categories like dumbest name, most embarassing loss, worst player of the tournament, etc - I'm not saying have a noob tournament, im saying let noobs join the tournament.
We don't restrict people from playing.
All players are allowed to play and are encouraged to play.
As Harry mentioned we have done lower tier tournaments in the past but our community is too small at this point in time.
nice job hosting the tournament
I don't think yiou guys are understanding what I'm trying to say
Again, I never suggested having a separate tournament for noobs, im only suggesting you redistribute the prize pool so that there is an incentive for people to play in it by giving out random prizes
So instead of #1 - 600, #2 - 300, #3 - 100
It'd be something like #1 - 300, #2 - 200, #3 - 100, and then 10 other people randomly win $50
That way, more people will show up and play because they know they have a chance at winning something
And if you change the map pool to have a variety of interesting maps, again, more people will show up to play.
If your goal is to build the community, then IMO this approach makes a lot more sense. Worst case scenario, no new players show up and the money is more evenly dispersed among the existing community. But I doubt the prospect of winning 600 bucks vs 300 bucks for the top spot is going to stop anyone from competing
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Hey Turtleman, back on us.east there was a turleman, is that you?
If so, nice to read from you.
I like your idea of having a small prize for players who participate.
You know you won't win the tournament, but you have the chance to win a little something if you are lucky. ( 50$)
10 players is a bit much, our tournaments are still relatively small.
But 2-3 players who could benefit from a lucky draw could persuade some to join in.
For now I would stick with Gow. Other map variations have not worked in the past. But you don't have to implement everything at once and could start like this.
In the end it's up to Tora, he's the organiser and financier.
Thanks for your ideas anyway.
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hey knitter nice to see you, yes it's me!
so here's the thing and why i'm wondering about this tournament. It's coming up this saturday, I've got a youtube channel about warcraft 2 and I want to promote the tournament
If I make a video, post it on all of the blizzard subreddits and get let's say 20k people to see the headline, let's say a few hundred of those people actually take the time to watch the video,
and then I say "hey guys, there's a free tournament this saturday where 9 grizzled veterans are going to beat the shit out of everyone on the same map and resourcecs they've been playing for the last 30 years, why not join?"
vs "hey guys, download this free game for a good chance of winning 50 bucks randomly just for signing up and having a good time on all of these cool maps and resources where you might have a fighting chance"
why not limit the random prizes to the amount of participants. So let's say you guys are expecting like what, 30~ people to join? Let's say we manage to market the tournament to people outside of the community and pull in another 60 players so now we've got 90 players - how many random prizes? maybe we have 2 random prizes for the first 30 players, and one more random prize for each additional 10 participants?
Either way, if I knew that I could make a video simply saying "sign up to win a piece of the $1000 prize pool with random participation rewards of $50 I can work with that. I'll promote it either way but if we want to bring new players into the game we need to market it to them, the guys already playing dont need marketing.
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I'm pretty sure Jayhawkers has your original name, if you don't have it.
You could try the random prizes. That might work. I think trying something different is better than trying nothing new. Just know, you'll lose 70% of current players to random maps. If you get 15+ new people to come in though, then it won't matter and would be worth it. Also, just more information for you but many players don't do tournaments because they know they have no chance. Some do it for fun. I guess this could motivate people but it's hard to get word out as only 5-10% of the people go on here.
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hey knitter nice to see you, yes it's me!
so here's the thing and why i'm wondering about this tournament. It's coming up this saturday, I've got a youtube channel about warcraft 2 and I want to promote the tournament
If I make a video, post it on all of the blizzard subreddits and get let's say 20k people to see the headline, let's say a few hundred of those people actually take the time to watch the video,
and then I say "hey guys, there's a free tournament this saturday where 9 grizzled veterans are going to beat the shit out of everyone on the same map and resourcecs they've been playing for the last 30 years, why not join?"
vs "hey guys, download this free game for a good chance of winning 50 bucks randomly just for signing up and having a good time on all of these cool maps and resources where you might have a fighting chance"
why not limit the random prizes to the amount of participants. So let's say you guys are expecting like what, 30~ people to join? Let's say we manage to market the tournament to people outside of the community and pull in another 60 players so now we've got 90 players - how many random prizes? maybe we have 2 random prizes for the first 30 players, and one more random prize for each additional 10 participants?
Either way, if I knew that I could make a video simply saying "sign up to win a piece of the $1000 prize pool with random participation rewards of $50 I can work with that. I'll promote it either way but if we want to bring new players into the game we need to market it to them, the guys already playing dont need marketing.
people would get more interested if there's more variety rather than seeing the same 5-10 guys as always, playing the same broken game balance with just Orcs heavily favored and the same literal map everytime, aka: gardens of War.
I dont try to be mean. But doing the same thing gets no better results
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In case people dont want to touch and modify War2 Combat (classic) in any way to get more attention, you can try out a tournament for War2Remaster, where people are *forced* to play other maps rather than just gardens of war AND, there's this Rebalance patch by Blizzard which makes a much more fair chance for Human faction to actually play in multiplayer
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hey knitter nice to see you, yes it's me!
so here's the thing and why i'm wondering about this tournament. It's coming up this saturday, I've got a youtube channel about warcraft 2 and I want to promote the tournament
If I make a video, post it on all of the blizzard subreddits and get let's say 20k people to see the headline, let's say a few hundred of those people actually take the time to watch the video,
and then I say "hey guys, there's a free tournament this saturday where 9 grizzled veterans are going to beat the shit out of everyone on the same map and resourcecs they've been playing for the last 30 years, why not join?"
vs "hey guys, download this free game for a good chance of winning 50 bucks randomly just for signing up and having a good time on all of these cool maps and resources where you might have a fighting chance"
why not limit the random prizes to the amount of participants. So let's say you guys are expecting like what, 30~ people to join? Let's say we manage to market the tournament to people outside of the community and pull in another 60 players so now we've got 90 players - how many random prizes? maybe we have 2 random prizes for the first 30 players, and one more random prize for each additional 10 participants?
Either way, if I knew that I could make a video simply saying "sign up to win a piece of the $1000 prize pool with random participation rewards of $50 I can work with that. I'll promote it either way but if we want to bring new players into the game we need to market it to them, the guys already playing dont need marketing.
if I see correctly, you have 36 subscribers?
I'm not sure why you assume that your videos will be watched by so many people.
But yes I like your idea and yes I think it's good to try to change things.
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My video might get a few hundred views (which is about what I get on average so far) - the impressions come from social media posting
If I post a video on reddit, thousands of people see the headline, most of them don't click on it.. but the opportunity is there and the more enticing the title, the more likely it's going to convert into a view. The same principle applies to marketing a tournament.
I'm just saying - hey, I'm gonna make a video promoting it, and offering advice to make it more appealing, which is going to help with or without my video, assuming you market it properly. But anyway I'm just going to move forward and assume that the format is staying the same as is - $1000 old/ef tournament with the top 3 winners taking the whole prize pool.
If everything goes according to plan I'll have 2 videos out by Saturday - I'm assuming that the tournament page will be set up the day of so I can just direct people to the game server where they'll get the information at the time of the tournament.
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I didnt read your comment turtleman, but im gonna assume you are man and wolf and good job, here is a hype video for your channel cept i shout at the mic the whole time sorry about that. You don't need to be good at it, which you are, we will make your channel the bestest better than that person's who thinks they will have better. I dont know who was saying otherwise i don't want to insult them by laughing at them.
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Do I need to register somehow on this tournament? Or I just come to server at this time and play?
I havent participated any tournaments earlier).
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I'm pretty sure Jayhawkers has your original name, if you don't have it.
You could try the random prizes. That might work. I think trying something different is better than trying nothing new. Just know, you'll lose 70% of current players to random maps. If you get 15+ new people to come in though, then it won't matter and would be worth it. Also, just more information for you but many players don't do tournaments because they know they have no chance. Some do it for fun. I guess this could motivate people but it's hard to get word out as only 5-10% of the people go on here.
nice glad to see jay's still around lol. i think my old aka was [bf]turtleman but im honestly not too worried about it
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Do I need to register somehow on this tournament? Or I just come to server at this time and play?
I havent participated any tournaments earlier).
yeah im still wondering the same thing, i think im gonna sign up and get my ass kicked
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I didnt read your comment turtleman, but im gonna assume you are man and wolf and good job, here is a hype video for your channel cept i shout at the mic the whole time sorry about that. You don't need to be good at it, which you are, we will make your channel the bestest better than that person's who thinks they will have better. I dont know who was saying otherwise i don't want to insult them by laughing at them.
Hey bro thanks for the shoutout.. I love your casting, you've got a lot more energy at it than I do.. only problem I have is your video quality. 480p - if you want to be featured on my channel it's gotta be 1080p - i could edit your video if u record it in 1080p or send me the replay file and i can sync your audio to it - but you also need to clean up your audio or again i could do that for you if it's just your voice (no backgtround music) Either way i think if u ramp up your production a bit you'll get a lot more traction Nobody wants to watch a 480p video with muffled audio no matter how entertaining it is. What hardware are you using? I'm assuming you're using OBS desktop capture , I use that too - but then I use Davinci Resolve to edit the video and gimp to edit images that I create with AI. My production level is not great either but I'm working on it. My next video tomorrow is gonna be an upgrade from my previous videos. Anyway if you can get me something in 1080p one way or another I can try to get it out Friday here to promote the tournament.
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Do I need to register somehow on this tournament? Or I just come to server at this time and play?
I havent participated any tournaments earlier).
You need just come at saturday
I asked many times tora to make prize lower for winners and pay more players, he refused, some players are not playing cause they know that who will win before tournament start
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Payout for loser bracket gives some people hope but most don't want to wait. Turtle, weren't you like a top player before?
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i'll try remove videos from last posts when i have time here is final hype video for knitterhemd and wolf and man. Thankyou to ~Tora~ for all the 1v1s you've played with me sorry about that one water map one i suck at water.
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Hi turtle. Thanks for those replay. Unfortunately only one gentleman was playing this game as Valk has been caught hacking a bit after that game using the "order a peon to build outside the fog" detection method. It was then proven that he in fact hacked in that game too. Sad because he robbed me of that tournament victory which was the biggest war2 bnet tournament yet at the time.
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https://challonge.com/zt56qcu1
brackets
GOW
bo3 winners
bo3 losers
bo5 grand finals starting 1-0
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My bad I was partying on Friday night and ended up sleeping all day today…
@Dudakurten did you host for me? I can do the payouts still.
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hawk 0 2 st
st 1 2 sg
u8 3 1 sg
ggs
i was making replays but due bug with wg/viet game it stopped got only 6 :/
3 vs gettip
2 vs roast
1 wg vs viet
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My bad I was partying on Friday night and ended up sleeping all day today…
@Dudakurten did you host for me? I can do the payouts still.
Yes.
Payout
#1 u8
#2 shotgun
#3 startale
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1st - $600
2nd - $250
3rd - $150
Any objections?
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Well on first page you said 600/300/100 haha
I would stick to that, or remove from the #1st :stuck_out_tongue:
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1st - $600
2nd - $250
3rd - $150
Any objections?
2nd was $300 and 3rd $100, you cant change prize money after the tournament 😆
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1st - $600
2nd - $250
3rd - $150
Any objections?
shieettttt, sounds good to me brotha
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1st - $600
2nd - $250
3rd - $150
Any objections?
shieettttt, sounds good to me brotha
no objections hahaha
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Payout for loser bracket gives some people hope but most don't want to wait. Turtle, weren't you like a top player before?
yeah i used to be pretty good
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Hi turtle. Thanks for those replay. Unfortunately only one gentleman was playing this game as Valk has been caught hacking a bit after that game using the "order a peon to build outside the fog" detection method. It was then proven that he in fact hacked in that game too. Sad because he robbed me of that tournament victory which was the biggest war2 bnet tournament yet at the time.
Hey Kanuks nice to see you - yeah, that sucks man.. I didn't really know that I was in a rush to get something out before the tournament and it was a good game. I'm not sure how he was caught hacking or why he'd do it in a big tournament rofl. someone else mentioned the same thing and I said that the guy spent years sending screenshots after the fact so he paid the price.. coulda just made a new name so i can reepect that. either way if you have any other replays let me know i can do another one of you
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does anytone have any insight replays from this tournament? I was trying to record during it but I literally just hooked up my new computer and I was having some technical issues - insight was crashing during games - then I tried using OBS and recorded like 6 games and then realized it wasn't putting the window into focus rofl
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@~ToRa~ did you get my inbox?
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@~ToRa~ did you get my inbox?
Yeah just sent.
Sorry was away most of this week.
Great job in the tournament!