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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: iL on March 18, 2015, 05:07:56 AM
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Poll here: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html)
Well you stated that not only "Combat" is the "proper" 2.0.2.0 version, so the title is a bit inaccurate.
Agree, just briefed. More accurate "combat, some custom builds or full version updated from blizzard servers, except some specific conditions".
I also think you forgot to mention the anti-hack project and if/how soon it will be released, what will it do etc.
I said about that briefly: "And i also plan to release an antihack software instead of closing anything to fight against cheaters".
Do you think that should be detailed?
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Please iL i think we should let one comment by peoples or peoples like claw gonna spam this important thread and other post gonna lose importance, he can edit is own post if he want, same for everyone.
I will keep one post too.
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Please iL i think we should let one comment by peoples or peoples like claw gonna spam this important thread and other post gonna lose importance, he can edit is own post if he want, same for everyone.
Agree, this thread is important, i'll remove the offtopic from here to keep it clean.
Also make sure i'll check that 0-posts persons "Date Registered: Today at 01:20:13 PM" to confirm they are real.
Appended: looks like he is real, sorry then.
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Use admin approved email activated accounts from now on please...
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Use admin approved email activated accounts from now on please...
I think i can handle duplicated accounts if they appears. No reason to enforce admin approved accounts now...
That's clean now.
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It's a solid post. I guess they just made some kind of agreement not to have people make a bunch of posts in the poll thread.
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It's a solid post. I guess they just made some kind of agreement not to have people make a bunch of posts in the poll thread.
yes, special agreement to unban eq despite the rules, special agreement to not piss eq off by killing discussion in the thread. You know i dont really like those rules, and if i dont see them respected/executed, they will no longer apply to me in my consience. And then we'll have something i'd call an unnecessary problem, but apparently its OK to negotiate with terrorists here
I have always do what i do for the best of this server, call me robin in the hood asshole, certainly not a terrorist.
Now let this communauty make his own choice.
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Your free to do what you want kirby.
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It's a solid post. I guess they just made some kind of agreement not to have people make a bunch of posts in the poll thread.
ah, smartass, changing the title of this thread i see. if we're playing edits then i simple copied the content of posts from this thread into my previous post in that thread. GG draw
I don't know why I'm a smart-ass. You asked if your post was off-topic and I agreed it wasn't so I updated the thread title to something more appropriate. It wasn't a trick!
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It's a solid post. I guess they just made some kind of agreement not to have people make a bunch of posts in the poll thread.
ah, smartass, changing the title of this thread i see. if we're playing edits then i simple copied the content of posts from this thread into my previous post in that thread. GG draw
I don't know why I'm a smart-ass. You asked if your post was off-topic and I agreed it wasn't so I updated the thread title to something more appropriate. It wasn't a trick!
It's not about if post are appropriate or not, its about only 1 post for everyone.
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I understand that. I renamed the thread title of this thread from "Offtopic from:" to "Discussion from:" to indicate that we weren't casting judgment on Claw's post.
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since posting about the matter is actually not welcome, I removed all my posts. Also since I see a retarded german voting AGAINST their own german client, i actually dont care what the result is, democracy rulz lol
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call me robin in the hood asshole, certainly not a terrorist.
You're on the same level as a terrorist with your internet demands "or else" over a 20 year old game client.
[ISIS]Equinox
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Moved some more flame from that vote.
Please, post your opinions and arguments about to close or not to close the client in vote topic: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,665.0.html)
And here's a good thread to talk about Equinox and his thread.
I also wondered about these 2 persons accepted his ideas, but they probably have some reason for that?..
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I noticed Player's vote said to block that client and his reason was "It's not hard to download/install war2combat."
That's definitely true.
What are some (non-hacking) reasons people would not download war2combat? Anyone know?
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-don't know where to download the client
--but, if they have a version of war2 with server.war2.ru gateway added, they know who we are and should be able to find the download
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-don't know why their log in is failing
--think they are banned, or that the server is down.
--may decide to try again later, still can't get on, eventually just say forget it
---if so, how can we prevent this? possible banner ads/warning campaign before blocking that client
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-like to have original music
--but original music is available on server.war2.ru downloads
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-i know original war2 was released for apple computers, does that still work?
--if so, banning wrong versions of client could end war2 for apple users unless they install virtual windows for mac
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-virus check etc, some programs will block war2combat as a program that has not been downloaded enough times or flag it for other reasons
--is this still happening?
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-Native language versions
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-anything else??
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1: It's pretty easy, Google: Warcraft II free.
2: There alot of different options if it really happen, Send E-mail to war2ru email list, use your official website, use your official forum.
3: I am enginner sound, i already told to il i can do better then the original game, i can recreate or i can do something new, even better i can do both.
4: Warcraft II was working with macintosh aka mac os, there a difference between macintosh and mac, i doubt people still use macintosh in 2015, if it's still work with mac, so they can download for free a mac converter into windows, il can also work on war2ru mac version instead to work on anti hack for no reason.
5: I got virus warning when i download everything in exe file, you dont want warning, just zip your exe.
6: Everyone should play with the same version since different version have different hotkey, by exemple french version is way easier to play compare to english one. Hotkeys are easier and faster to do, if they cant learn original version like me, the worst english men ever, so they can made an add on like german do.
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If everyone is on Combat and the same version, could we then, when we update Combat, use the log-in "checking version" and tell them an update is available, from within the client, and initiate the download/update?
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I think it would be interesting to see how many of the people voting "no", use 2.0.2.1 and what reasons they would have for doing so. I don't really see any valid reason.
A valid reason is to let people use version they like. Yes, you can make some manipulations with MPQ to attach german keyboard to combat, you can also repack MPQ to add music or videos or w/e you want to play with.
You can also make some research to convert russian version supported windowed mode and steam overlay to 2.0.2.1 probably.
You can also disable UAC and DEP in your windows7 to make it work from program files as a default path.
But you should be at least an avdanced user, otherwise you just realize it's not possible or too complicated, install combat and refuse version you liked.
Another valid reason is if you are newbie: you just click the 1-st server line, get red obscure error message, something about improper version, try to click other servers, get several more red error messages and think that network is not work for this game.
Also, if you are scared of losing players, you could put a notice when you log in the game
Unfortunately war2 doesn't support custom messages while connecting the server. You just get standard one, feels something broken and closes that.
Anti Hack not gonna proof anything, only admin will know truth, also anti hack not gonna fix lag and your not gonna be able to caught hacker by your own if anti hack really caught something and WHO???
Antihack should show active hacks to anyone playing in the same game BTW. Everybody can try it.
I'll announce to test that when i make it.
Lag is not something related to versions, you probably mean warlatency incompatibility, it's not related to lagging.
So what is this anti hack about. Watching known hacks and monitoring our system???
Yes, something like that.
Watching known hacks, reporting to the server about that.
I would imagine having everyone on one client would benefit IL and team as well when it comes to development, testing, troubleshooting problems, etc.
I'd say different versions could have different problems. So some individual problem with combat could be resovled by using different version.
And closing version will not let to do that.
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Another valid reason is if you are newbie: you just click the 1-st server line, get red obscure error message, something about improper version, try to click other servers, get several more red error messages and think that network is not work for this game.
Is this a War2Combat issue?
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No, it's if you got War2 some other way but have server.war2.ru on your Gateway list somehow. That part of the problem goes back to my point 1, not the biggest issue since these people must know what server.war2.ru is (or else how would they even have it as an option?). Bigger problem is the last bit of iL's message and my point 2, they don't know why it's not working and think the server is down.
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Is this a War2Combat issue?
It's how server handles incompatible version. It denies it and then war2 shows you that message.
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8-9 this is close
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8-9 this is close
I forgot i didn't vote :-\
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8-9 this is close
I forgot i didn't vote :-\
Still tight even if *no* side have two smurfs almost only custom players and all the haters from forum.
These 2 smurf, Teron-Gorefiend and DESTROYER SOMETHING not should be allow in this pool untill they get their real account.
Yes side are all real players, old gow players and most of them sign to forum just to vote in this pool.
It suppose to be 8-8.
For someone who was alone in is delusional request, i think you guys can apologies now.
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Teron-Gorefiend's normal record is now 202/176/33 (50 draws)
Seems like he's played a lot of games to me. How can you discount his vote? Not sure who the other one is.
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I can do 200 games 4 days... Its not about how much games you play but about who you are. Who did know him? Maybe Terror gorefiend and destroyer are the same guy, who know.
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Ganz doesn't even play though, and he voted.
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So take off the iL vote and the future moustopher one.
Also ganz and il are not smurf, we all know them as a real identity.
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I said that he will try to manipulate the votes earlier. EVERYBODY should be allowed to VOTE ONCE. Il is ensuring nobody votes twice. I am known on the server. I have many friends. Sorry my votes and others too should count.
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I said that he will try to manipulate the votes earlier. EVERYBODY should be allowed to VOTE ONCE. Il is ensuring nobody votes twice. I am known on the server. I have many friends. Sorry my votes and others too should count.
If you think like this im gonna trick yes vote too..
I got over 4 account with 200 wins.
You guys want democracy, when you go vote, you have to be someone with your id, but in that case your nobody.
Do this pool real and right and everything gonna be alright.
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Why is poll open until april 18th? Should just close it @ the end of march.
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Why is poll open until april 18th? Should just close it @ the end of march.
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Because i try to be fair with everyone here, 1 weeks is not enouph for a decision like this, people who dint play this week cant vote.
1 month look fair, if you dint vote before 1 month, maybe you just dont cares anymore about this game.
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True, might want to set up War2BNE topic with this poll link if any of you server Admins are reading this..
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this pool real and right and everything gonna be alright.
You guys want democracy, when you go vote, you have to be someone with your id, but in that case your nobody.
Do this pool real and right and everything gonna be alright.
I voted once only. Ask Il. He is a respected and honest member here.
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Anyway to lock poll based on ipaddress?
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Anyway to lock poll based on ipaddress?
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Not hard to get new ip adress, let use our good sens, real peoples are allow, smurf are not.
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this pool real and right and everything gonna be alright.
You guys want democracy, when you go vote, you have to be someone with your id, but in that case your nobody.
Do this pool real and right and everything gonna be alright.
I voted once only. Ask Il. He is a respected and honest member here.
Nobody cares, iL is not mere theresa, since i know he want these client open, i dont trust nobody. I want to see who vote, who they are, i want to be sure everything is fair for everyone..
As you can see, im not the only one for this request, so you guys have to respect them too, its not only about me.
No smurf or allowed, it a fair deal, no matter what you said, get your real aka, and your gonna be allowed.
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This is my aka. Deal with it. It said one person, one vote. This is what I did. Now do not come and change the rules to suit you once the game has started.
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This is my aka. Deal with it. It said one person, one vote. This is what I did. Now do not come and change the rules to suit you once the game has started.
Showing the vote was for reasons, smurf is a part of that reason, nobody know you, its a communauty vote so the communauty have the right to know who vote.
Get your real aka.
Your not allowed period.
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Teron-Gorefiend seems like a legit player to me. When you say some active player with 400 games (before this poll ever existed) can't vote, you're not talking sense. Btw, I am neutral on this and haven't even voted...
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Teron-Gorefiend seems like a legit player to me. When you say some active player with 400 games (before this poll ever existed) can't vote, you're not talking sense. Btw, I am neutral on this and haven't even voted...
Are we gonna put limit to know what a legit smurf is??? He is a smurf blid, there no good smurf or bad smurf, smurf are not allowed, thats how it suppose to be, let keep this pool fair, take your vote if you want blid.
ps: This is why.... be someone in this game is important, when someting like this happen, you have to be someone, thats why peoples need to keep playing on their real name and smurfing less.
They can smurf if they want, but for my own part, they dont have the right to be in this kind of decision, this is a privilege for peoples who keep this game alive by standing their own identity.
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He played 400 games before this poll even existed. I've seen him before when I play. Why on earth would he not count? He's an active player with a lot of games.
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He played 400 games before this poll even existed. I've seen him before when I play. Why on earth would he not count?
Because knobody know him and he can be anyone here 2 times or 3 times or 4 times, we already know who is real and who is not.
No privilege for this kind of guys.
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Everyone knows him. He's been playing actively for a few months. I could see if he was a new user after this poll was created, but his first ladder game is 12/7/2014. He's been playing on that name for over 3 months!!
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Everyone knows him. He's been playing actively for a few months.
Everyone know coldjack too.
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This guy has been playing over 3 months. You can't discount his vote. I promise you he hasn't voted on any other name.
When you say a person over 3 months old, with over 400 games, can't vote... you're talking nonsense.
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Dude i got no power here, your the one with your super staff, you can do what you want, you know i cant do nothing except getting ban... But know something, im gonna feel biase if you allow this kind of vote again, everyone know he should not be allow, do what you want now, your the boss, boss!
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His vote definitely, definitely counts. If it makes you feel better, we can disqualify his vote, and I can vote to allow all clients in his place. Even though I largely want the hack version closed, I'll vote to keep it open just to make Teron-Gorefiend's vote count. It's stupid to disqualify him. His IP doesn't match with anyone else voting. He's played 400 games and played for 3 months. He's part of the community. He counts.
If you want to complain about a vote, complain about IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
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Quit whining you got your poll and your losing, quit making excuses, you talk about doing things for the players.
Teron Gorefiend is a known player, and he's even won a tournament recently. Quit being a bitch about it because your losing the poll right now, you should've been banned so if Teron gorefiend isn't allowed to vote, you shouldn't of had an account to vote to begin with either then.
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His vote definitely, definitely counts. If it makes you feel better, we can disqualify his vote, and I can vote to allow all clients in his place. Even though I largely want the hack version closed, I'll vote to keep it open just to make Teron-Gorefiend's vote count. It's stupid to disqualify him. His IP doesn't match with anyone else voting. He's played 400 games and played for 3 months. He's part of the community. He counts.
If you want to complain about a vote, complain about IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
I dont think we even have to talk about the destroyer guy, the fact is we should know everyone who vote and nobody know him.. This guys teron gorefiend is braggin since 4 month to be a smurf on his profile game.
I dont see why we gonna allow smurf just because hes playing longer then any other smurf.
My own opinion is take your vote because we all know you and its a fair vote even if you dont play.. But let's take in consideration even if you dont play, if your someone of this communauty we can allow you because you can start playing anytime and you are someone.
But for my own part he not should be allowed because hes a smurf, no matter how much time he play on it, he dont deserve that privilege, i stand my equinox account since ten years, same for claw, saint, player, unforgiven, you, iL, we deserve that privilege.
Do what you want, i told you, your the boss.
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As the boss, I say he has a unique IP and has been playing for months. His vote counts unless someone else with the same IP votes.
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As the boss, I say he has a unique IP and has been playing for months. His vote counts unless someone else with the same IP votes.
We dont know ip, we know peoples, and since ip is a personal informations you cant give us that information.
Also vpn and proxy exist.
Do what you want i told you, we just better stop talking about this, where going no where.
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You know he's been around for months.
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You know he's been around for months.
Yes i know, but i really thing he dont deserve that privilege yet dude, this is too easy and shameless for peoples who play this game since 10 years, all that peoples worth nothing because you allow people like him, hes nobody on this smurf, thats my own opinion, let's stop this now, i dont want to be the bad guy, we all know how its gonna finish.
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His vote definitely, definitely counts. If it makes you feel better, we can disqualify his vote, and...
thin ice
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Just let's continue voting, there's a lot of voices from each side, we can qualify votes later.
Wondering for so many votes for closing, i didn't expect that.
That poll is not a reason to holywar, it's a technical question.
Equinox, "to close" means to deny joining the server by internal bnet versioncheck? Or allow joining with deny playing would be ok also?
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but i really thing he dont deserve that privilege yet dude,
Who are you to decide if I get to vote or not? This is retarded. I play. I voted once. This is it.
A good analogy would be general elections in countries. Even if a person who leaves his country and works abroad, does not contribute to taxes or is active in his country has a RIGHT to vote.
Same should apply to people not playing at all in recent times or not playing as much.
I'm playing, so the issue does not even arise.
You make dumb retarded rules to suit YOUR needs. Its a fair democratic poll. I voted once. Chill the fuck down.
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Equinox, "to close" means to deny joining the server by internal bnet versioncheck? Or allow joining with deny playing would be ok also?
As it suppose to be you have to refuse any others clients to join our server except the original one, war2ru. 4.0.
You also have to use the same patche for everyone, it mean, when you create a new patche, everyone have to download it to be able of playing.
Everyone on same client, everyone on same patche.
PS: Or, i know you can desable peoples of playing, so maybe you can let join others clients/patches, but they are not able to play, they are just able to chat on the channel.
So this people can ask why they cant play and peoples gonna tell them to download the real version.
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As it suppose to be you have to refuse any others clients to join our server except the original one, war2ru. 4.0.
You also have to use the same patche for everyone, it mean, when you create a new patche, everyone have to download it to be able of playing.
Everyone on same client, everyone on same patche.
I see, similar as on $pace's server: nobody can join and play without his custom war2 being started via his loader.
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PS: Or, i know you can desable peoples of playing, so maybe you can let join others clients/patche, but they are not able to play, they are just able to chat on the channel.
So this people can ask why they cant play and peoples gonna tell them to download the real version.
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As it suppose to be you have to refuse any others clients to join our server except the original one, war2ru. 4.0.
You also have to use the same patche for everyone, it mean, when you create a new patche, everyone have to download it to be able of playing.
Everyone on same client, everyone on same patche.
I see, similar as on $pace's server: nobody can join and play without his custom war2 being started via his loader.
Yes, similar as every games of the worlds.
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PS: Or, i know you can desable peoples of playing, so maybe you can let join others clients, but they are not able to play, they are just able to chat on the channel.
So this people can ask why they cant play and peoples gonna tell them to download the real version.
Yes, that is also how i imagine the possible future: to let all the clients join the server to show it's active and do something with wrong clients.
"Wrong" means at least with no antihack applied or probably improper version if that really causes problems with lags and maphacking.
"Do something" means eighter deny playing/chating or just marking them as "wrong" to let others know they are not safe.
Probably mark for test period and deny after making sure that the system works.
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Or!!!!!!
If i see it by myself, we can let other clients join your server and play, but they absolutly have to install patches 4.0 or every new one your gonna make, if they try to join with another patches of 4.0 they are not gonna be able to play.
If we can test this and it's work it can be possible to do that, so peoples can keep playing with music and orginal language.
But i need to see if anti hack gonna work for both version and if the latency bug gonna be fix.
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looks reasonable, that looks similar to my plans:
something obvious about unsafe clients, like PM to all other players joining the game.
With possibly denying them to play after the system test period.
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looks reasonable, that looks similar to my plans:
something obvious about unsafe clients, like PM to all other players joining the game.
With possibly denying them to play after the system test period.
Just hope you understand when i said anti hack i talk about the one we already have... the one who keep show gold mine when you try to close map hack.
If you want to add your own anti hack after your free to do it, safety is always welcome, untill we have the gold mine one on every different clients and the war2lat fix everything is cool.
PS: I know, you know, it's a great deal and we dint even need a pool for that.
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Just hope you understand when i said anti hack i talk about the one we already have... the one who keep show gold mine when you try to close map hack.
I see, 2.0.2.0 could be considered an antihack: not perfect, but better then nothing until we have something better
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Let me separate the discussion about anti hack gold mine to different topic, because it turned to a different subject. I hope nobody protests against that.
Let's follow the subject "to close or not to close" here...
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ok
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His vote definitely, definitely counts. If it makes you feel better, we can disqualify his vote, and I can vote to allow all clients in his place. Even though I largely want the hack version closed, I'll vote to keep it open just to make Teron-Gorefiend's vote count. It's stupid to disqualify him. His IP doesn't match with anyone else voting. He's played 400 games and played for 3 months. He's part of the community. He counts.
If you want to complain about a vote, complain about IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
I dont think we even have to talk about the destroyer guy, the fact is we should know everyone who vote and nobody know him.. This guys teron gorefiend is braggin since 4 month to be a smurf on his profile game.
I dont see why we gonna allow smurf just because hes playing longer then any other smurf.
My own opinion is take your vote because we all know you and its a fair vote even if you dont play.. But let's take in consideration even if you dont play, if your someone of this communauty we can allow you because you can start playing anytime and you are someone.
Great! So that means I get to vote after all. *goes to vote*
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I've been thinking about it, and I'd like the messed up version closed, but it becomes a timing issue. We keep this poll open for awhile, and then we need to put up banners in the game telling people they need to use Combat, and we have to leave that up for about a month before we do anything. By the time it's OK to start client checking and forcing people to use Combat, I think iL might have the anti-hack ready, which is a stronger solution anyway. However, if iL thinks it will take 6 months or longer to make the anti-hack, then I'd say just go ahead and mandate people use Combat, since that's an easy temporary partial solution.
What I don't understand about Equinox's position is that he thinks blocking a bad version of the game is a stronger solution to hacking than an actual anti-hack. Doesn't make much sense to me.
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His vote definitely, definitely counts. If it makes you feel better, we can disqualify his vote, and...
thin ice
yes because you only quoted half the sentence and therefore successfully ignored its meaning. im saying we can only disqualify his vote if we put another vote in its place, which would render the disqualification of that vote meaningless, and the thrust of my argument is in fact that the vote should and will stand.
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I see all this close/open thing as an equinox childish rant that serve very little purpose or none at all.
its dumb.
Yes, this is a solution, a temporary one.
Cuz if iL thinks and can develop a working anti-hack. all this serves no purpose rather than to have an actual way of blocking hacker probably sooner than iL takes to develop that antihack.
I pretty much agree to blid has poted so far , it is only a matter of timing.
if we have waited 10+years for an antihack... can't we fucking wait 6 more months for iL to do it? its just not reasonable... but hey, its coming from equinox.. he wants his 10min of fame and being center of attention once more...
and here we are, debating about it.
but let's say I give in to this, and actually put a vote on this.
I'd vote yes close clients IF and only IF:
- we have the localized versions of war2combat ready for download. All of them: RUS,ENG,DEU,FR,SPA
- Need a thorough advertising campaign, on game server making sure everyone that now play need to download new client
a big banner on main page explaining about it too.
and if iL can make it so that he can allow older versions but deny player to join and create games that would be best.
this would be roughly, 3 months from now.
(maybe even iL got his antihack ready by then, and all this convo is just wasted time lmao)
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Original music subject:
the music available for download is midi, it doesnt compare
the original music doesn't only sound better, but the game changes so when you are about to go into battle, the battle tune kicks in.
its not the same as having that midis just playing in background
but, this is no issue.
All you have to do is, have your War2BNE CD either inserted on your media drive or mounted as an image on your computer
War2Combat WILL read the music.
at least thats how it was last time i tried this, (last time i tried was with 3.05 version)
so maybe put a text telling people about this instead, maybe in the game installation window notes.
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Side thought on people not knowing why the server won't let them join if they have the wrong version of War2 - what if the back-up server allowed people with any version to join and had a giant message saying they need the "official" version to join the main server?
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im saying
disqualify his
meaningless
vote
Very thin ice.
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Side thought on people not knowing why the server won't let them join if they have the wrong version of War2 - what if the back-up server allowed people with any version to join and had a giant message saying they need the "official" version to join the main server?
Well thats just silly. [emoji32]
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About 10 days ago I voted to close all War2 versions except Combat. I suggest people voting otherwise change their votes!
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About 10 days ago I voted to close all War2 versions except Combat. I suggest people voting otherwise change their votes!
Keep all doors open, vote to keep all open!
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would be nice to have a parallel custom_hotkey_changer release for germanz n other pumpkins. Also you just broke the "1 post per thread" rule. Twice. Ban
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would be nice to have a parallel custom_hotkey_changer release for germanz n other pumpkins. Also you just broke the "1 post per thread" rule. Twice. Ban
I already told it 25 times.
There already an add on for german.
German War2 Hotkeys Drop this file in your War2 directory to use traditional German full Warcraft II version hotkeys with War2 Combat. Created by JesK Click Here to Download
Version: N/A File size: 12.11 MB N/A
But you guys have never listen me, or acting if you just dont!
And seriously, who cares about german?? If we made a special add on for german, better made special add on for everyone.
The fact is, they can use it because a player made it himself, so it's all good, but there no reason to take cares more of personal satisfaction of german while italian french polak dint have special add on for themself.
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would be nice to have a parallel custom_hotkey_changer release for germanz n other pumpkins. Also you just broke the "1 post per thread" rule. Twice. Ban
I forgot about that rule in all the time that has gone by
Obviously my first post in that thread announcing the rule doesn't count though. I'll move out the extra one
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thats hands down the most retarded rule ever - to have only ONE post per a STICKY THREAD about SOMETHING IMPACTFUL. jesus christ lol
nonetheless i found it funny to rub it in your face
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thats hands down the most retarded rule ever - to have only ONE post per a STICKY THREAD about SOMETHING IMPACTFUL. jesus christ lol
nonetheless i found it funny to rub it in your face
Thats the best rule ever since peoples try to manipulated other with their own comments.
We told you, you can edit your post if you want.
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it wasn't my idea~ it was agreed to by eq and il
that said i dont think it's bad, everyone can make their primary argument once and that way someone that checks that thread will get to see the different positions once and not a whole discussion and ongoing debate
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you have a poll with comments already, that could serve that purpose just as well. Or a sticky, CLOSED thread with neutral arguments pro and against (iL's first post), yet you keep one post per user to agitate stupid idiots with "THIS IS NEW ERA" thingies without any real dialogue
why didn't we have a poll about whether the thread should be 1-post-per user
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you have a poll with comments already, that could serve that purpose just as well. Or a sticky, CLOSED thread with neutral arguments pro and against (iL's first post), yet you keep one post per user to agitate stupid idiots with "THIS IS NEW ERA" thingies without any real dialogue
why didn't we have a poll about whether the thread should be 1-post-per user
well imagine, now everyone gets to have their say, but the thread stays relatively clean. without that rule, people going to vote would be initially confronted with like a 6 page argument between Equinox and whoever
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and then they press "view votes" and see perfectly reasonable explanations for each and every vote, one per user
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and then they press "view votes" and see perfectly reasonable explanations for each and every vote, one per user
In 3 week your the first one who cry for this reason.
Stop crying it gonna change nothing.
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who cares about german??
Alot more people care about the germans then the snobby Frenchmen
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So, the verdict is in?
(http://i.imgur.com/ESzSp2T.png)
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how's the progress on the antihack going though? I was hoping for an antihack (hence my vote), but il has been basically gone for the past month. If the antihack never is finished, it will be obviously better to close other versions...
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Yeps. The good guys won in the end :)
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how's the progress on the antihack going though? I was hoping for an antihack (hence my vote), but il has been basically gone for the past month. If the antihack never is finished, it will be obviously better to close other versions...
Yeeeep. Hence my vote.
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The verdict is pure bullshit, no votes is full of smurfs and peoples who dint even have reason to vote no.
Anyway i told to everyone if these clients are still open i will stop cares about this game, the time is now.
Im not gonna waste my times anymore to help this server, good luck guys.
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how's the progress on the antihack going though? I was hoping for an antihack (hence my vote), but il has been basically gone for the past month. If the antihack never is finished, it will be obviously better to close other versions...
Yeeeep. Hence my vote.
Seems like the best short-term fix is to close the other versions. Announce upcoming closure of other versions for a month or two in game/forums w/ instructions to get combat (plus applying German hotkey hack), then close the other versions. very e z.
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The verdict is pure bullshit, no votes is full of smurfs and peoples who dint even have reason to vote no.
Anyway i told to everyone if these clients are still open i will stop cares about this game, the time is now.
Im not gonna waste my times anymore to help this server, good luck guys.
Time for you to go back to that cave for another 3 years then show up on RU again, you won't be missed hacker
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The verdict is pure bullshit, no votes is full of smurfs and peoples who dint even have reason to vote no.
Anyway i told to everyone if these clients are still open i will stop cares about this game, the time is now.
Im not gonna waste my times anymore to help this server, good luck guys.
Aw, does this mean UWC is over?
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Since you will let peoples hacks, yes no doubt, good luck with this server.
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Someone who does not respect the verdict of a democratic poll cannot be taken seriously.
Edited out flames.
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There no democracy there, most of the ** No ** Votes are from smurfs, people who dint even play and haters and hackers.
There not even a single german in this vote.
But i dont even want to try anymore, this server is a total waste of time i was just too idiot to realise it before.
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sadness, i liked UWC
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The verdict is pure bullshit, no votes is full of smurfs and peoples who dint even have reason to vote no.
Anyway i told to everyone if these clients are still open i will stop cares about this game, the time is now.
Im not gonna waste my times anymore to help this server, good luck guys.
Time for you to go back to that cave for another 3 years then show up on RU again, you won't be missed hacker
Hahaha
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There no democracy there, most of the ** No ** Votes are from smurfs, people who dint even play and haters and hackers.
There not even a single german in this vote.
But i dont even want to try anymore, this server is a total waste of time i was just too idiot to realise it before.
Mr.Mod anti-server again [emoji54] ?
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Well the only QUESTIONABLE vote is from that smurf guy IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
However, the only UNFAIR vote is from "Orcish", who has been proven to be ganz's multi-account...
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Well the only QUESTIONABLE vote is from that smurf guy IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
However, the only UNFAIR vote is from "Orcish", who has been proven to be ganz's multi-account...
I bet its one of ur chickens...[emoji54]
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However, the only UNFAIR vote is from "Orcish", who has been proven to be ganz's multi-account...
Of course Equinox will ignore that since it's voting on his side!
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sadness, i liked UWC
Yeah, seemed like it was going well. :c
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Well the only QUESTIONABLE vote is from that smurf guy IBecomeShivaDestroyerOfGN.
However, the only UNFAIR vote is from "Orcish", who has been proven to be ganz's multi-account...
How about you saying you would change your vote, which would immediately tie the poll?
Also I wonder if some people voted to allow all versions because they want to support the server staff and oppose Equinox. But maybe it would be best to vote to close the hack versions.
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No man, there was a poll, the poll is closed. rules are rules!
incidentally, theres not much of a difference between iL being too busy to implement anti-hack and iL being too busy to implement wervsioncheck & fix the bugs
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idk, one requires creating a custom program that can catch hackers and interact with war2
the other requires changing a pvpgn setting
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idk, one requires creating a custom program that can catch hackers and interact with war2
the other requires changing a pvpgn setting
Promoting laziness?
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idk, one requires creating a custom program that can catch hackers and interact with war2
the other requires changing a pvpgn setting
No, the cheats are only broken because of different war2 versions then they are designed for. They can easily be fixed. A pvpgn setting won't help. Closing it might make someone fix or redo new hacks and make them public and totally fuck the ss option.
just strictly anti hack. I would not fuck with version checks and that type of shit until anti hack is ready to be implemented. Then we can better secure our cheat system with version checking and so on.
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But i dont even want to try anymore, this server is a total waste of time i was just too idiot to realise it before.
I would really like to see more of the UWC. It was awesome and I wanted to eventually participate in it. Just because this vote didn't pass, I don't think you should immediately convert to this hopeless attitude. I don't see why a small thing like this should prevent you from contributing to the server to the best of your own ability. Don't get discouraged. Keep going.
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It was awesome and I wanted to eventually participate in it.
why didn't you? its a shame eq couldnt gather 16 player brackets instead of 8...
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But i dont even want to try anymore, this server is a total waste of time i was just too idiot to realise it before.
I would really like to see more of the UWC. It was awesome and I wanted to eventually participate in it. Just because this vote didn't pass, I don't think you should immediately convert to this hopeless attitude. I don't see why a small thing like this should prevent you from contributing to the server to the best of your own ability. Don't get discouraged. Keep going.
I try everything to save this game, unfortunately the staff dont really cares and most of peoples cant play without hacks, im just done.
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It was awesome and I wanted to eventually participate in it.
why didn't you? its a shame eq couldnt gather 16 player brackets instead of 8...
I could come up with quite a few excuses like having to work, promoting the server, and a few side projects. Honestly, I don't know what I was doing during the event but it's been a bit since I've even gotten on to play. It's possible I could have played in it and I probably should have. I also probably should have mentioned how I felt about all of the boards and regularly updated topics that were implemented for the UWC. It just creates too much work for the person handling it. I think the drive to keep up with it quickly decreases when you create an overabundance of routine work such as this. I actually think that's one of the reasons UWC went downhill. This reminds me of the saying "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" except instead of food, it's boards and topics. o_o
I try everything to save this game, unfortunately the staff dont really cares and most of peoples cant play without hacks, im just done.
I honestly don't see much trying from you. Trying to save this game would be to continue hosting tournaments for the UWC to bring a better experience to war2 in it's current state. Also, I played two archers games with a different newb on my team each time the other day. The host asked me if it was okay and I gladly played with them on my team. This was probably the first map that these guys had ever played on the server and I tried to coach them from start to finish. Maybe they will get on the server again because they felt welcome and would like to learn more about the map they played. They have also met a player who is willing to help them learn. I can't tell you how many times I've seen random players saying that I was the one to teach them how to play. After those games I went and joined one of your GOW games. I was welcomed to a S9, to which I replied s9=bananas, and was immediately banned from the game. How does this help save the game?
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It was awesome and I wanted to eventually participate in it.
why didn't you? its a shame eq couldnt gather 16 player brackets instead of 8...
I could come up with quite a few excuses like having to work, promoting the server, and a few side projects. Honestly, I don't know what I was doing during the event but it's been a bit since I've even gotten on to play. It's possible I could have played in it and I probably should have. I also probably should have mentioned how I felt about all of the boards and regularly updated topics that were implemented for the UWC. It just creates too much work for the person handling it. I think the drive to keep up with it quickly decreases when you create an overabundance of routine work such as this. I actually think that's one of the reasons UWC went downhill. This reminds me of the saying "Your eyes are bigger than your stomach" except instead of food, it's boards and topics. o_o
I try everything to save this game, unfortunately the staff dont really cares and most of peoples cant play without hacks, im just done.
I honestly don't see much trying from you. Trying to save this game would be to continue hosting tournaments for the UWC to bring a better experience to war2 in it's current state. Also, I played two archers games with a different newb on my team each time the other day. The host asked me if it was okay and I gladly played with them on my team. This was probably the first map that these guys had ever played on the server and I tried to coach them from start to finish. Maybe they will get on the server again because they felt welcome and would like to learn more about the map they played. They have also met a player who is willing to help them learn. I can't tell you how many times I've seen random players saying that I was the one to teach them how to play. After those games I went and joined one of your GOW games. I was welcomed to a S9, to which I replied s9=bananas, and was immediately banned from the game. How does this help save the game?
You dint see no shit because your comming on this forum twice per week and com to server once for year.
I host tournament since 2006, what your saying is pure bullshit and only your own words.
If you want to waste your time for a game where the staff is lazy and the player are hacker, go get it, for my own part it's enouph, thank you.
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After those games I went and joined one of your GOW games. I was welcomed to a S9, to which I replied s9=bananas, and was immediately banned from the game. How does this help save the game?
This raises an important point - i really think the non-gowers actually contribute way more to the war2 and community growth than the regular gowers. They think they're real war2 and master race but in reality they're the least needed players here. I'm sure all the non-tunnel visioned admins agree, but i don't care if they do. Opinions can't change the reality. And we all know what that reality is. It starts with the "s9" and ends with a ban
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Reality start with staff, im sorry but you guys gonna have to open your eyes a good day.
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Forbid hackable version of War2 and don't ban people for not knowing s9 imo.
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idk, one requires creating a custom program that can catch hackers and interact with war2
the other requires changing a pvpgn setting
Promoting laziness?
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No, I'd still prefer to see the anti-hack created eventually. But that's a project that still isn't completed, and it seems like giving some notice and then forcing everyone onto one version could be a interim solution until the anti-hack is complete. If everyone is on one version of War2, we could even force them onto a version with the anti-hack bundled in at some point.