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Title: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 04, 2020, 06:05:20 PM
Gonna be 3 weeks im waiting for an answer about my account and they just act like they never seen it, after they ask peoples about being respectful.

Only time they show off and do something is when we have big drama, they gonna give you a random stacked tournament so you guys shut ur mouth, other then that they dont cares and enjoy seing this game and forum dying.

They have do this for years, years and years, nothing gonna change.

They are fucking jokes.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Sentinel1 on December 05, 2020, 01:35:27 AM
cant remember a worse performance from a "top player" than braviet in game 5.  when tora asked "what did braviet do wrong?" and WG replied "what did braviet do?" it made me lol.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Szwagier on December 05, 2020, 05:52:39 AM
cant remember a worse performance from a "top player" than braviet in game 5.  when tora asked "what did braviet do wrong?" and WG replied "what did braviet do?" it made me lol.

cause few players like close base and tech, sg was almost, white was slowed, so If braviet make cats for s9 and cannon 4, he should be able to win

This forum is just soo much fun now. Thanks nazi mods!

yes its better than drama for no reason, cause eq got to much free time
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2020, 11:58:59 AM
cant remember a worse performance from a "top player" than braviet in game 5.  when tora asked "what did braviet do wrong?" and WG replied "what did braviet do?" it made me lol.

cause few players like close base and tech, sg was almost, white was slowed, so If braviet make cats for s9 and cannon 4, he should be able to win

This forum is just soo much fun now. Thanks nazi mods!

yes its better than drama for no reason, cause eq got to much free time

Dude you are playing and hacking this game 10 hours a day since the last 10 years.

Where ur good friend cel by the way?  :salty:

Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2020, 06:23:24 PM
Cel dint take a break, Cel stop playing on war2ru because he found that iL make criminal act on this server.

Allowing every mods and admins and even some regular players to get acces on IP players, password and wisper log.

Cel is still playing and streaming, just on another server.

But clearly admins will not say truth, they just gonna mute me and move my posts to flames thread and acting like im crazy.

We all know that.  :thumbsup:
Title: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2020, 07:27:23 PM
My question is why are you concern that much by a dumb ass list that everyone know rigged and bullshit.

Most of those players are ranked multiple times in different tier with smurfs...

Burnt is like the worst person ever to make a ranking list.

All this server is rigged and bullshit from a to z when we talk about ranking.

The burnt list is the biggest bullshit ever.... The discord ranking is also bullshit, they rank CAVALO as master while KHB is still veteran Lol...

Even The ELO RANKING LADDER is bullshit, swift is 4 times in the top 5 of all time ELO ranking with different accounts.

Those peoples dont cares about ranking or truth... They just let some peoples do want they want and lie about everything..

After you guys think they respect the community.

You guys are not better then all those liars hypocrites manipulator by supporting and giving importance to them and there delusions.

 
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2020, 08:11:06 PM
Look at this bullshit, it's litterally the HALL of fame of best players of all time, 15 years where people have been ranked and swift is literally owning 4 position in the top 5 and lone is owning 2 position in the top 7... Thats so respectfull for peoples who have play this game for 15 years and are cock block by literally 4 useless accounts. Congratulation admins!

(https://i.imgur.com/E2wpGNo.jpg)

Now look at this, who the fuck give acces to the moron who litterally put non sens players as master in that discord ranking?? Thats so respectfull for the community again... wow..

(https://i.imgur.com/wngInGU.jpg)

After iL is gonna say, everything he want to do is to please peoples the best as he can.

Fuck off, this dude have no idea about what hes doing, he just hiring peoples that he love and let them do whatever they want, all togheter, they are real joke.

A dictator liar manipulator who do whatever he want when he want.

A dictator liar manipulator that give false positive to hackers and protect them.

A dictator liar manipulator who rigged every important community pool by sending fake account to vote and rigged the true community choice.

A dictator liar manipulator who give acces to mods, admins and even regular players to the entire server logs, IP, PASSWORD, E-MAILS, ACCOUNT, WISPERS.

A dictator liar manipulator who force peoples to keep there post and account on forum by lying and manipulating everyone while his little friends are blackmaling others members family in the community... Muting peoples for there opinion but forcing them to keep there opinion on the forum, nice one  :thumbsup:

The only true ranking that we got is the ladder himself, and this ladder is true because i force you ''TK'' to do something about it, we both know it..

And even there, this ladder is stil bullshit, most of those players are litterally playing against the same players over and over because if they lose against random players they gonna lose 32 elo points, so they dont take any chance at all and just play between the same peoples over and over and abuse the ladder. After they gonna make smurfs to play other peoples they normaly never play and try to break there elo with smurf so those peoples cant climb up in the ladder and fuck there elo.

The best part is peoples gonna say, we dont cares about rank, and we dont cares about this and that, we play for fun, but when burnt make the biggest shitty ranking ever, everyone cry like bunch of babys and seem to cares...

You are all hypocrite by supporting this peoples when i just say truth for what...5 years now?? Where you all been when i was making a true systeme ranking with the masters tags before tora fuck all of it and literally let it die in all of our faces because he was jalous of a true good work for the entire community?

You all bunch of cowards.

Thats what you guys are and thats why you guys dont deserve better then a bunch of retarded admins who get paid under the table by a bunch of maniak to rigged this entire server from a to z.

 :salty: :salty: :salty:



Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: tk[as] on December 05, 2020, 10:13:36 PM
Tk, so you played 1 good game against swift and that did it for you? 1 game that you didn't even win? 

How about spanking lone so hard that he hasn't logged on since? So full of shame and embarrassment. All of a sudden he doesn't "care" about the game. Good one

I watched those lone games. He was drunk. U played well but he was drunk and it was obvious.

We could have played a dozen games and they would have gone very similar. He would have had a small edge.. but not much. All woulda been ggs. Because I was at a very high level. That's all I'm saying.

Point is tier systems are dumb because literally anyone who has been playing all these years has the ability to fluctuate like 3 tiers in a few weeks depending on activity.

This is a muscle memory game. The more you play, the less you have to think, the more everything becomes instinctive.

Some people have the ability to retain the muscle memory or rebuild it after long breaks. I dont. But if I play with high skilled people for 2-3 weeks for 12 hours a day, I'm going to be a top player.. an extrmely bored top player. And at least a dozen tier 4-6 players could do the same thing.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 05, 2020, 10:17:36 PM
Tk, so you played 1 good game against swift and that did it for you? 1 game that you didn't even win? 

How about spanking lone so hard that he hasn't logged on since? So full of shame and embarrassment. All of a sudden he doesn't "care" about the game. Good one

I watched those lone games. He was drunk. U played well but he was drunk and it was obvious.

We could have played a dozen games and they would have gone very similar. He would have had a small edge.. but not much. All woulda been ggs. Because I was at a very high level. That's all I'm saying.

Point is tier systems are dumb because literally anyone who has been playing all these years has the ability to fluctuate like 3 tiers in a few weeks depending on activity.

This is a muscle memory game. The more you play, the less you have to think, the more everything becomes instinctive.

Some people have the ability to retain the muscle memory or rebuild it after long breaks. I dont. But if I play with high skilled people for 2-3 weeks for 12 hours a day, I'm going to be a top player.. an extrmely bored top player. And at least a dozen tier 4-6 players could do the same thing.

I bet swift was also drunk when he lose his legend tag against wargasm 3-1?

Here what i think, Swift and Lone are 2 cowards manipulators who dint want to participate on this master tag series because i was the new leader of it and probably decide to lose on purpose so they was able to get out of this probleme as soon as they can... They also did that because they knew i would do something about it and retarded peoples on the server would be mad on me because i was also a TD and peoples would believe i did that for my '' suppose friends'', friends with who i dont even talk or play Lol... They are only 2 cowards manipulator who dint want to fight each others for the LEGEND Tag, same as u8 when he relinquish his title...

3 big cowards manipulators hackers who broke the community because i was making real rules for once in 15 years.

Thats what i really think, and i knew it even before i remove there tags and give it to wg and bara, but i dint fucking cares, because they lose and its no one else probleme, period.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Harrywangs on December 05, 2020, 11:29:17 PM
EQ, I don't base my friendships off of if people agree with me or not. I'm not sure why you do. You've never had a friend you disagreed with?

I simply just think, it's not worth the BS. If security of my personal info/computer are indeed being compromised and it is proven, by a reputable source, then I will quit. 20 years of back and forth unfortunately is useless on my end. Cel was trying to help you and you shit all over him. He was constantly being nice and professional to you and you just made personal insults the entire time. Are you actually trying to accomplish something or are you just trying to bitch at everyone? Because you won't get anywhere the way you treat people.

I don't really care about ranking so much. I know where I stand. You're right, compared to the good people, I'm mostly useless. I'm above average and less than good. I'm not very good at 1s and to be fair, I dodge a lot of people at 1s cuz I don't enjoy it much. I don't think it is a secret.

I was challenged by... Jynx? (at like midnight?) And Lego 2 weeks ago. Idk who else, maybe more if you have people in mind. I told him he'd rape me and just take the icon, lol. I 1sed for about a month, maybe 8 months ago now. Both are much better than me and would have won and not gotten any better in the process for doing so. They should be challenging for master anyways imo. I'll go play so I can lose it to make you happy.

The champ icon nobody even knew about until tourney was already over. I didn't ask for it. I got 3rd place in a mid-level tournament and didn't deserve any recognition. I kept it and didn't say to take my icon away, like others did, out of respect for you and your mission. The truth is, nobody cares about the icons before or after your involvement. Kudos for trying but that is just what it is. Master tags haven't changed/been challenged in a LONG time. That is not the objective of this game. That is just your opinion. PS: Anyone can have my icon if they want.

EQ, man, you made up more icons for people when they lost.... Like Lone, because he deserved it?.... that is the opposite of what you were trying to accomplish. More icons= less competition. Simple supply and demand. Making up rules to help good players instead of making them EARN it, contradicts the point you were just trying to make. It also wasn't an official series for a tag. It was just a 1v1 that happened and you changed it because nobody was participating.

Tournaments are fun. People like them. They aren't for icons. They are for fun/good competition. I'm not sure if money is a motivator for people, but I don't think so (my personal opinion). I believe that will be stopping soon anyways. You and Tora are very nice for that though. My tournament was smurf. Brackets mean nothing. Jesk and Knit won mine. They don't win every 2s tourney at all every time.

Lone/Bara- You say "peoples you must keep that title by protecting it"..."You can't just win and say I'm master forever"... You are sticking up for Bara yet he is doing the opposite of what you say people should be doing. He won't 1v1 Lone again.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 01:00:28 AM
EQ, I don't base my friendships off of if people agree with me or not. I'm not sure why you do. You've never had a friend you disagreed with?

I simply just think, it's not worth the BS. If security of my personal info/computer are indeed being compromised and it is proven, by a reputable source, then I will quit. 20 years of back and forth unfortunately is useless on my end. Cel was trying to help you and you shit all over him. He was constantly being nice and professional to you and you just made personal insults the entire time. Are you actually trying to accomplish something or are you just trying to bitch at everyone? Because you won't get anywhere the way you treat people.

I don't really care about ranking so much. I know where I stand. You're right, compared to the good people, I'm mostly useless. I'm above average and less than good. I'm not very good at 1s and to be fair, I dodge a lot of people at 1s cuz I don't enjoy it much. I don't think it is a secret.

I was challenged by... Jynx? (at like midnight?) And Lego 2 weeks ago. Idk who else, maybe more if you have people in mind. I told him he'd rape me and just take the icon, lol. I 1sed for about a month, maybe 8 months ago now. Both are much better than me and would have won and not gotten any better in the process for doing so. They should be challenging for master anyways imo. I'll go play so I can lose it to make you happy.

The champ icon nobody even knew about until tourney was already over. I didn't ask for it. I got 3rd place in a mid-level tournament and didn't deserve any recognition. I kept it and didn't say to take my icon away, like others did, out of respect for you and your mission. The truth is, nobody cares about the icons before or after your involvement. Kudos for trying but that is just what it is. Master tags haven't changed/been challenged in a LONG time. That is not the objective of this game. That is just your opinion. PS: Anyone can have my icon if they want.

EQ, man, you made up more icons for people when they lost.... Like Lone, because he deserved it?.... that is the opposite of what you were trying to accomplish. More icons= less competition. Simple supply and demand. Making up rules to help good players instead of making them EARN it, contradicts the point you were just trying to make. It also wasn't an official series for a tag. It was just a 1v1 that happened and you changed it because nobody was participating.

Tournaments are fun. People like them. They aren't for icons. They are for fun/good competition. I'm not sure if money is a motivator for people, but I don't think so (my personal opinion). I believe that will be stopping soon anyways. You and Tora are very nice for that though. My tournament was smurf. Brackets mean nothing. Jesk and Knit won mine. They don't win every 2s tourney at all every time.

Lone/Bara- You say "peoples you must keep that title by protecting it"..."You can't just win and say I'm master forever"... You are sticking up for Bara yet he is doing the opposite of what you say people should be doing. He won't 1v1 Lone again.

It's not a question of friendships, it's a question of being hypocrite.. Not being my friend dosent mean you need to be hypocrite... What im saying here is before you were Champ, you were on a roll of 1v1 to proove yourself, and the day you became champ you start to act exactly like u8, swift and lone... Telling everyone that you dont cares about that and you dont have to do any 1on1 because it's not something that you cares...

Now when we talk about personal security infos.... Dont forgot something bro... Cel Aka trogallart was saying the same thing as you 1 month ago, telling me i was probably crazy and there was nothing wrong on this server and no proof about it, he also said the exact same thing of you.... If i know something wrong happen on this server, i will leave this game... And now.. Where he is since iL give him acces to the data base?? Hes gone bro, playing on gog server with some friends because he seen that i was right... So dont tell me you need proof from a reputable source, because Cel was one of the best reputable source you can find and he leave the server for playing on gog.

Here what did happen between iL and Cel... Burnt came with the swift story about the swapping account, so iL give acces to Cel on the DATA base of the server to check out the IP's and Cel find out that alot of peoples had acces to it, wich mean Admins, Moderators and EVEN REGULAR PLAYER that dosent even relate to the staff.. Cel what shock about that and tell iL he will need to take cares of that, because those peoples have acces to all our personal informations wich mean, Account, password, wisper logs between users, e-mail and IP'S. But iL told to Cel that he dosent want to do anything because he will make alot of players mad about that... Do you realize what happen here bro?? Peoples whos not even relate to administration have acces to all those personal informations including REGULAR PLAYER LIKE ME AND YOU!!

Let's say that Cel was trying to helping me from a point where i was wrong, i would be okay, but it's hard to help someone if he is right.... Thats why Cel is not here anymore, because he found that i was right!! So wich help do you talk about... We can give you all the proofs that you want, and you will still want more proofs and more proofs, you know why, because most of you are just being hypocrite and accepting that way to do in the community... This community is rules by a bunch of criminals hackers that dosent fucking cares of us... And i understand it make everyone mad cuz we have been fool for more then 15 years... But it dosent change the truth... And when we speak about truth, they gonna start ignoring/muting you and even blackmail ur family secretly.... Do you understand that??? While they gonna act like they cares about us and making the big deal drama about burnt swapping account history.. So peoples like you cant see shit and just keep believe they are good peoples.. Let's be honnest, who fucking cares about burnt swapping account bullshit while my family are blackmail... They fucking mute and ignore me when my personal informations and family being blackmail, and they act the big drama for burnt and is no important story of swapping account.... Let me laugh bro... PLEASE!

You telling me im bitching the peoples, but when you have been called crazy and dumb ass by those peoples and peoples like you are defending them in that hypocrite non sens behavior, then this is what happen, we started seeing those peoples like a bunch of fucktard hypocrite brotha... Im the only one whos really have been neutral with everyone and have try to run this server by a real ethic scheme of rules... And you still there defending those peoples who fuck you in ur back since 15 years bro...

Now you are telling me that you dont even cares about 1s, and you are right, maybe you dont, but six month ago when i was propsing you, you take that as challenge and you really start to improve yourself... Because probably you told to yourself, hey someone believe in me, someone believe i can get better, and you start to believe it yourself and you start getting better for real... So maybe you dont cares, but you still have improve because of that...

Now, if you wanna talk about what you deserve or not, then let's talk about it... That champ icons was for everyone whos was not rank as Legend/GM, Or Master, you have played in this tournament and you have finish in third place wich mean that you deserve it.... You dont deserve to be GM or Master, but you certainly deserve to be a champ because you own that third place and it was already sett to being that way... The 5 first position was declare as new champ, END OF STORY... So yeah you deserve it.... The mystake that you do, was to being stock on that champ icon, instead of telling to yourself, maybe i can try to go for a master now.... But you dint, and since you dint you was stock on that title. But dont told tell me you dint cares at that past time, because we both know it's not true, you were proud of improving yourself, you were proud of being reconize for your improvement and you start acting weird when tora start to talkshit in my back and telling peoples he will take cares of me lol..

Now there no games in the world where you will find 3 exclusive masters or grand masters... Games all around the world have about 500 GM and 1000 Masters, i understand we dont have nouph players to make so much GM or master on this server, but we still can afford 1 Legend, 5 grand Masters and 7 masters.... The way i was seing this, is, even if lone lose, he was still belong a part of the grand masters on the server, so yeah i was ready to add mores grand masters Rank... Because i was beliving he was still a grand master and we can afford more grand masters at the end... What i was doing is to repair a ranking systeme that tora made and was making no sens at all..

For more then 5 years we have been stock with the same Legend, 1 GRAND MASTER, and the same 5 Masters.... Even if they were losing, we were still stock with the same peoples.. So Repairing this broken system was needed real time actions on the moment... I have ask for some advice from the community at some times, and other times i was not, because i was truly beliving i was right and i dint need any advices... And repairing a system where the community have bow down to those corrupted rules for years, was not my priority... Because sadly the community have accept that broken systeme and dint do shit about it. So yeah i was not hopping help from that kind of community sadly...

My goal here was to change the things for real and make this server neutral for everyones, not please some special peoples like those admins did for years because they are scare to make peoples mad..

Because at the end, i dont cares if some pros are mad, i cares about the entire community, and if someone dosent want to ride with us, then he can fucking relinquish is title like the coward he is and let chance to peoples who will enjoy it for real and gonna run with THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

Now, when i add more grand masters and more master and more champs, it was about giving more achivement to the people like you who cant get on masters or grand masters... Because i truly still believe you guys deserve something.... Maybe you are not a gm or a masters, but you still an important part of that community, you still deserve to achive something and be proud of yourself, and maybe going for the next step after achieve something.... So yeah i made more ranking to give reconization to other peoples.... Like shotgun, Lone, Knitterhemd, Lux, you etc etc.. How can you guys be mad about that... I Have been good with all of you, i have been real, i have been great with you... And you guys have shit on my head... I did not... The fact that i add more Title dosent make less competition... Because i can add 30 Masters tomorow if i want and those 30 masters will still be able to achieve the GRAND MASTERS and those grand MASTERs will still be able to achieve THE LEGEND AFTER THAT... and what we know for a fact is, there ONLY ONE LEGEND... so the absolute achivement of that server was to be the legend... But peoples like you just tell themself, i cant be that legend, so i dont cares about 1v1 and competition... Im not the one to be blame here, you are the one who need to blame yourself for not beliving in yourself... You are the one who decide that you only can be a champ and nothing much more.... You have decide to stop that competition on the champ ranking... But sadly, maybe it's only you, maybe some people think they can achieve more then that... Maybe some peoples believe they will beat swift a good day...There the challenge my brotha, not beliving in yourself is not my responsability, more masters or more grand masters is not the probleme here, ur confidence in yourself is the probleme and the fact that you dont believe in yourself anymore is not something i can fix everyday for you.... But sadly you are not my priority, even if i like you, my priority was the entire community, and im pretty sure what i was doing was the best thing this server have never had in those last years.... Nobody made a better rank systeme then me, nobody have watch those games more then me, the entire last year i have watch every games in the ladder ranking, and i know exactly what i was doing was good for everyones even the peoples i dont like... Only the cowards and the people who dont like me was crying and acting weird about it... Thats the truth brotha.

Now the official challenge on the forum was pure bullshit bro, nobody have cares about that for years and years, nobody have ever make a single challenge on this forum, it was a waste of time, it was something for lazy admins who dint want to work, it was something for lazy admin who dint want to work, I REPEAT, IT WAS SOMETHING FOR LAZY ADMIN WHO DINT WANT TO WORK AND JUST BLURR PEOPLES.... A good staff will take cares of that.... Because in every games around the world, there no challenge at all, you are playing the game and the auto system gonna rank those PLAYERS AUTOMATICLY, but since admins are stock to making SOLO CAMPAIN for russians peoples who put picture of themself instead of a peon picture. This is what we got, lazy admins who dint want to work!

If admins was a bit competant, they will work on that auto ranking systeme, but since they dont, we must take cares of it ourself, it mean, someone like me, must watch those games every day in the ladder match up and make the switch manually, like i was doing...

Making a useless rules about challenge on the forum is just the worst thing i ever eard in my life....

But here again, you just being hypocrite with ourself and keeping supporting those retarded rules... What can i do, you guys are literally living in a fantasy world lol.

Now dont forget something, what happen now with GM, MASTERS and champs is not my probleme anymore, because im not leading this anymore... If i was still leading this, we will probably have differents GM or Masters at the moment, but tora and some peoples harasse me so much that i retire from that, and now there nobody to take care of that, so if you still have the same GM or masters since the three last month, is certainly not my fault, but the tora one since he shit on me and dint even take cares of it after my departure.. Not only that he broke the only person who was taking care of that systeme but he also giving up on it and giving up on the entire community by never take care of it after my departure..

Thats the only truth my brotha!
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 06, 2020, 04:33:30 AM
Look at this bullshit, it's litterally the HALL of fame of best players of all time, 15 years where people have been ranked and swift is literally owning 4 position in the top 5 and lone is owning 2 position in the top 7... Thats so respectfull for peoples who have play this game for 15 years and are cock block by literally 4 useless accounts. Congratulation admins!

@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Could you remove swifts and lones Smurfs from the 150 best ranked players?
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 06, 2020, 04:37:06 AM
How about spanking lone so hard that he hasn't logged on since? So full of shame and embarrassment. All of a sudden he doesn't "care" about the game. Good one

When lone is active he literally players for 8 or more hours a day consecutively. I don’t think u winning 1 series against lone has much to do with him taking a break.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 06, 2020, 11:28:44 AM
Look at this bullshit, it's litterally the HALL of fame of best players of all time, 15 years where people have been ranked and swift is literally owning 4 position in the top 5 and lone is owning 2 position in the top 7... Thats so respectfull for peoples who have play this game for 15 years and are cock block by literally 4 useless accounts. Congratulation admins!

@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Could you remove swifts and lones Smurfs from the 150 best ranked players?

They're all up there because Eq is sorting by ELO. I don't think we wanna delete swift's accounts/game history from the ladder just because he's got a lot of the top Elos!

Oh, it's also an old graphic.  Just discovered when you sort by something it only sorts what's already on that page, so now when you sort by elo you get ZERO swift accounts since he's not on page 1 anymore.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: baRa on December 06, 2020, 11:37:34 AM
How about spanking lone so hard that he hasn't logged on since? So full of shame and embarrassment. All of a sudden he doesn't "care" about the game. Good one

When lone is active he literally players for 8 or more hours a day consecutively. I don’t think u winning 1 series against lone has much to do with him taking a break.

That is what I'm trying to say. He pays 8+ hours a day and I come in as a part timer and demolish his world. It wasn't just a lucky 2-1 series win. It was a literal 7-1 beat down. I haven't seen him since. If I were him I would be rethinking my commitment to this game as well. Maybe all those countless hours of practice just aren't enough? Maybe I need to think about life after warcraft now? Maybe Bara is just better than me?

Yes
Yes
And yes, Lone.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Harrywangs on December 06, 2020, 12:39:29 PM
You gotta shorten you responses if you can please. This is too much for a forum and for me to have motivation to read it all and respond.

EQ, although I did stop playing around the time of the tourney, it had no relation to my motivation to 1s. If there was a 2s icon and I won it, do you think I would stop playing 2s? Come on man. U8/Swift/Lone all played 1s long after they got their icons. That is not relatable to me.

Again, I don't know about this stuff but if there is someone reputable enough that calls it out and other people who know what they are saying, are in agreement, then I will respond as necessary. You complain about a lot of things, so it sounds like boy who cried wolf.

I heard he left too. If he found something serious, he needs to have the integrity to share it with the community. Otherwise, that is zero proof. Why would he go through all of this work, post his findings on the forum and then leave without giving people a more concerning and straight forward answer? Cel was the best reputable source and you treated him like absolute shit.

Accepting the way it is currently is not the definition of a hypocrite. I think you might be looking for another word. In the way you are using it, that would mean me saying, I know all this bs is happening and I'm very concerned and I should leave, and then I continue to play. I don't know about the bs, so I can't be a hypocrite. A lot of the technical stuff is over my head and all of the people who would know, don't agree and the issue, unfortunately seems to get dropped for a while. Lance, Cel, Pika, iL, LB, Claw, and whomever else has information or could publicly discuss it, would be great. Otherwise, it is very difficult to draw a conclusion. Again, boy who cried wolf scenario. A lot of this information is over 95% of the community's heads. So, they cannot make the decision either.

I agree I improved partly due to 1s. I tried for 1 month, correct. I still didn't like it even when I was doing it. Which is why I played so few games still compared to others who 1s. I do remember the comment you made. That was nice of you. I have no idea how my 1s/motivation has to do with Tora? I couldn't care less what he says about you in terms of what I do. I listen to what I hear and do what I want. I don't stick up for anyone blindly, no matter what you think. I just gave TK shit and I like TK a lot and have never had an issue with him. I was just being honest with him.

Again, your logic is flawed with the whole icon thing. You do NOT create something because you FEEL he should be a grandmaster after he lost. He should be EARNING it again. Not just handed something. That is the entire reason for the whole icon thing and you are fucking it up even more. It is now even less exclusive (not that anyone cared before) . Again, supply and demand. If anything, you should be having less icons. They have no motivation.

I thought your efforts towards creating a more inclusive community were admirable but I think you needed to weigh other more effective options as the icon/rank system seemed to have lost steam long before you took it over. You keep talking about what people DESERVE as opposed to what they EARN. I am not to blame because I don't 1s or want to be a Master. You have no right to put that on me or anyone else on the server. Motivation comes from the person and not all people care about it, which is why nobody has challenged anyone for years. Don't blame the community for not participating in something that you feel is what their goal should be.

You can attempt to motivate people but you can't complain if it doesn't work. You, as the creator/leader of motivating the community, have the responsibility to motivate them without blaming other people that it did not work. IE- If I create a new sport that I think is the best thing in the world, but nobody wants to play it or fund it. That is on me, not the people who aren't interested. My job as the creator of the sport, is to figure out how I can entice people to be interested. Not go all around and blame everyone for not doing it. That just does the opposite.

While I don't fully disagree with you about the Admins sometimes, I think that, at this point, given the last 20 years or so, you need to change your expectations, so you are not so angry all of the time. I know it's kind of a sad thing to say, but if you and other people have addressed this multiple times in the past, and nothing has changed, what more can be done? If there is something more, then you need to venture into that avenue because the forum thing is not seeming to be effective and the person that was helping you, you were very mean to.

Again, I'm not fully sure how I am being a hypocrite with the forum. I don't go on here and just talk mad shit. It is also annoying that every thread (like this one) can never stay on topic. I try to be productive mostly. I can probably be sucked into something and get pissy but generally I try to be productive, which is why, I also feel moderation is not a bad idea.









Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 02:06:42 PM
Look at this bullshit, it's litterally the HALL of fame of best players of all time, 15 years where people have been ranked and swift is literally owning 4 position in the top 5 and lone is owning 2 position in the top 7... Thats so respectfull for peoples who have play this game for 15 years and are cock block by literally 4 useless accounts. Congratulation admins!

@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Could you remove swifts and lones Smurfs from the 150 best ranked players?

They're all up there because Eq is sorting by ELO. I don't think we wanna delete swift's accounts/game history from the ladder just because he's got a lot of the top Elos!

Oh, it's also an old graphic.  Just discovered when you sort by something it only sorts what's already on that page, so now when you sort by elo you get ZERO swift accounts since he's not on page 1 anymore.

Sorting by ELO is giving you the real rank position, also, we dont talk about the normal ladder, we talk about the HIGHEST RANK ELO of all time... We talk about BEST PLAYERS of all time.. Why do you act like you are stupid?? If you are that dumb and you dont know shit at all about this game,  '' what i really doubt '' then why you are still trying to be admin?

HIGH RANK!

(https://i.imgur.com/2oxOSt5.jpg)

Also, dont delete is account, just make sure hes not there anymore, and dont remove all his account, just remove all his smurfs, wich mean, Derber, backdoor, 00KYLE.

Same for Lone, just remove 00ISTVAN.

And since we are there, why not removing all those smurfs from at least the top 25 also??

- SUN`AM
- viet_is_low
- ScrubberNaut
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 02:15:41 PM
You gotta shorten you responses if you can please. This is too much for a forum and for me to have motivation to read it all and respond.

If you dont have motivation, then dont join big boy discussion and trying to manipulate peoples with ur opinions.

If you cant read me, im not gonna read you.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Harrywangs on December 06, 2020, 02:59:05 PM
Obviously I did read it, as I responded to it.....It was just a lot and a request to tighten it up. I'm not manipulating anyone with anything. I have no ulterior motive.

I know your stance on a lot of things, they don't need to be reiterate at full, which would save a lot of typing.

Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 06, 2020, 03:05:00 PM
@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Ok yeah don’t delete swifts or lones accounts from the ladder. But is it possible to at least drop their smurf account ranks in regards to ELO?

I know it seems childish but if EQ or any player for that matter takes ELO seriously they will immediately stop doing so since the top players have more or less taken the top 5 spots with their normal and smurf accounts.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 03:10:35 PM
Obviously I did read it, as I responded to it.....It was just a lot and a request to tighten it up. I'm not manipulating anyone with anything. I have no ulterior motive.

I know your stance on a lot of things, they don't need to be reiterate at full, which would save a lot of typing.

I dont think you manipulate peoples on purpose, but it's still the case when you give ur opinions and dont read peoples who explain you things about it, when you give ur opinions, you must read what peoples answer to it, because at the end if you dont, you probably just say shit that you dont know what you talk about... And it become manipulation.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 03:14:13 PM
@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Ok yeah don’t delete swifts or lones accounts from the ladder. But is it possible to at least drop their smurf account ranks in regards to ELO?

I know it seems childish but if EQ or any player for that matter takes ELO seriously they will immediately stop doing so since the top players have more or less taken the top 5 spots with their normal and smurf accounts.


Exactly, i dont mean to remove them, but at least dropping them from the first page or something like that.

So when we sort the most important page of the server, we dont see that abuser taking the entire top 5 in hostage for his ego maniak desire.

PS: It's not childish, it's being respectfull for peoples who have support this server for 15 years.

Stop saying bullshit because you love swift nuts.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 06, 2020, 05:47:22 PM
@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Ok yeah don’t delete swifts or lones accounts from the ladder. But is it possible to at least drop their smurf account ranks in regards to ELO?

I know it seems childish but if EQ or any player for that matter takes ELO seriously they will immediately stop doing so since the top players have more or less taken the top 5 spots with their normal and smurf accounts.
So basically the suggestion is we take ELO points off their scores because when you leave the main ladder page, and go to a separate page showing all players that have reached #1/#2, and then sort that second page by ELO, they have a lot of the top accounts.

i don't really think we can be doing that because that would be fudging the elo scores and making them wrong.  These scores are mathematically calculated.  What's more, this just happens naturally if someone plays 1s on more than one account.  Nothing they can do about it except losing on purposes, or us editing the numbers and making them factually incorrect...

Even more, these are not the "top 5 spots," because these aren't spots on the ladder... for example Equinox appears on this page with an elo score of 1654.  What rank is that?  What rank will it be if swift's extra accounts are removed?  I don't know the answer to either of those questions, because this is not a numbered, ranked list at all.  you would have to literally count each row to know.  And even then, this would show you equinox is for example 20th or 25th in elo, but that's only of players that have reached #1.  It's not a real ELO ranking.  KGBagent12 has an elo score of 1689 right now but doesn't appear on the page at all, since his high rank is 10. 

In short, this is not a real thing imo
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Swift on December 06, 2020, 05:57:10 PM
Look at this bullshit, it's litterally the HALL of fame of best players of all time, 15 years where people have been ranked and swift is literally owning 4 position in the top 5 and lone is owning 2 position in the top 7... Thats so respectfull for peoples who have play this game for 15 years and are cock block by literally 4 useless accounts. Congratulation admins!

@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Could you remove swifts and lones Smurfs from the 150 best ranked players?

They're all up there because Eq is sorting by ELO. I don't think we wanna delete swift's accounts/game history from the ladder just because he's got a lot of the top Elos!

Oh, it's also an old graphic.  Just discovered when you sort by something it only sorts what's already on that page, so now when you sort by elo you get ZERO swift accounts since he's not on page 1 anymore.

If you and Tora feel that it would be best for the game to delete my accounts, that's entirely fine with me. I suppose preserving the actual game records/receipts would be cool for me to look at for nostalgic purposes down the road. But, if you need to delete those too in order to hide the ELOs then so be it - whatever gets as many people enjoying playing war2 is best for everyone including me.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 07:59:54 PM
@Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart)

Ok yeah don’t delete swifts or lones accounts from the ladder. But is it possible to at least drop their smurf account ranks in regards to ELO?

I know it seems childish but if EQ or any player for that matter takes ELO seriously they will immediately stop doing so since the top players have more or less taken the top 5 spots with their normal and smurf accounts.
So basically the suggestion is we take ELO points off their scores because when you leave the main ladder page, and go to a separate page showing all players that have reached #1/#2, and then sort that second page by ELO, they have a lot of the top accounts.

i don't really think we can be doing that because that would be fudging the elo scores and making them wrong.  These scores are mathematically calculated.  What's more, this just happens naturally if someone plays 1s on more than one account.  Nothing they can do about it except losing on purposes, or us editing the numbers and making them factually incorrect...

Even more, these are not the "top 5 spots," because these aren't spots on the ladder... for example Equinox appears on this page with an elo score of 1654.  What rank is that?  What rank will it be if swift's extra accounts are removed?  I don't know the answer to either of those questions, because this is not a numbered, ranked list at all.  you would have to literally count each row to know.  And even then, this would show you equinox is for example 20th or 25th in elo, but that's only of players that have reached #1.  It's not a real ELO ranking.  KGBagent12 has an elo score of 1689 right now but doesn't appear on the page at all, since his high rank is 10. 

In short, this is not a real thing imo


The way it's working is pretty simple....

1- The first page combine all the accounts of the server since the ladder creation, so we can say approximativly the last 15 years... After it take in consideration everyone who have reach #1 RANK in the regular normal ladder since the last 15 years... So everyone who have reach #1 ranking will be able to appear on this first page or even on the second pages if there no room for more players...

So it will be something like First page #1, second pages bunch of #1 and start adding #2...

After the #1, the next consideration the page will take in order is the best active players of the day in those #1, it will start to show best player of the day. So today this HIGH RANK page have recorded that SPB is one of the #1 in this page who have play the most... So SPB is probably the most active 1v1 player of the day.

But as you can see, spb got only 1592 ELO, so we all agree he is probably rank #1 only because he is the one whos have been active today in this list. So it's not really reprensentative of a real ranking... The regular ranking where U8, dj_boss, braviet, knitter, medivh is more representative of a true ranking of the day since all those players cant be IN... Take by exemple DJ_Boss, he is #2 of the regular ranking with a HIGH RANK of only #2... So it's more representative of the day...

So when you go to HIGH RANK, you dont wanna go there to see whos was the best player of the day, because best player of the day only take in consideration everyone who have reach #1 in his life.... Wich is pretty stupide because if dj boss have a better day then spb he will not appear there...

So when you go to HIGH RANK, the only thing you really wanna see, is the best #1 ELO RANK OF ALL TIME... Wich mean you will sort those #1 in highest ELO order to see who are the best #1 of all time with the most ELO IN ALL TIME..

Wich bring us to Swift, Backdor, Derber, 00kyle, Lone and 00ISTVAN.... Lol....

But thats not all..... Swift actual aka is KitchenDerber, KitchenDerber is rank #9 on the regular ladder with a highest rank of #8... So at the moment he dosent appear in the HIGH RANK section because he dint have reach #1 yet... But when hes gonna do it, and we all know hes gonna do it..... Hes now gonna be send in this HIGHEST RANK PAGE, with Swift, Backdor, derber and 00kyle.... He will only need to passt 2000 elo and he finally will take the ENTIRE TOP 5 HIGHEST RANK ELO OF ALL TIME...

I mean are you kidding me?? You think this guy dont know that??? lol

This guys is literally trying to take the entire top 5 for himself, and he is here trying to tell us he want the best for everyone...

OK SWIFT, you want the best for everyone, FUCK YOUR DAMN NOSTALIGIA and LETS DELETE THOSE ACCOUNT FROM THE LADDER... Actually, let's keep Swift and 00KYLE SINCE IT'S UR CLAN ACCOUNT, BUT LET'S DELETE, DERBER, BACKDOOR AND STOP PLAYING WITH KITCHENDERBER RIGHT NOW, GO BACK TO SWIFT OR 00KYLE AND START RESPECT OTHERS PLAYERS, WHATS ABOUT THAT BRO?!

Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 06, 2020, 08:11:09 PM
Or i dont cares, i got tons of options for you guys...

We also can delete this HIGH RANK PAGE, SO IT DOSENT APPEAR ANYMORE..

But to be honnest i dont think it the right choice, since the page is pretty cool if a abuser dont abuse of it.

Or what about being a true server for once.... Delete derber and backdor, save that entire retarded ladder in archive somewhere so we still have that kind of NOSTALGIA swift talk about, and RESET THE LADDER FROM SCRATCH, TOTALLY NEW!!!

And make SEASON of 3 months.... EVERY 3 MONTHS, WE START FROM SCRATCH...

Season1, season2, season 3 etc etc etc. 

What about that?!

Oh i know.... I guess it's too much work right... lol
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 07, 2020, 11:31:31 AM
Cel dint take a break, Cel stop playing on war2ru because he found that iL make criminal act on this server.

Allowing every mods and admins and even some regular players to get acces on IP players, password and wisper log.

Cel is still playing and streaming, just on another server.

But clearly admins will not say truth, they just gonna mute me and move my posts to flames thread and acting like im crazy.

We all know that.  :thumbsup:
When you just come up with a wild theory, based on no facts, that spreads lies and libel against the server, should we NOT mute it?

First off, nobody has access to the logs except iL and one other person he appointed to do an investigation, which is Cel.  Cel already posted all about what he found in the logs and never said he found anything bad!

I think most people think we are too light in allowing this kind of false talk against us.  Warning + move is probably right...
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 07, 2020, 02:47:00 PM
Cel dint take a break, Cel stop playing on war2ru because he found that iL make criminal act on this server.

Allowing every mods and admins and even some regular players to get acces on IP players, password and wisper log.

Cel is still playing and streaming, just on another server.

But clearly admins will not say truth, they just gonna mute me and move my posts to flames thread and acting like im crazy.

We all know that.  :thumbsup:
When you just come up with a wild theory, based on no facts, that spreads lies and libel against the server, should we NOT mute it?

First off, nobody has access to the logs except iL and one other person he appointed to do an investigation, which is Cel.  Cel already posted all about what he found in the logs and never said he found anything bad!

I think most people think we are too light in allowing this kind of false talk against us.  Warning + move is probably right...

Why he is not here anymore? Why do he stream on GOG?

And why one of his best friend told me that?

''Imagine toi donc que t'avais un peu raison... pas sur tout mais quand même... Cel a découvert des problèmes de sécurité sur le serveur... genre que le log des mots de passe et des convos avec même les whisper se promenaient pas just entre admin genre que iL l'a pratiquement passé à tout le monde... Cel lui a dit de changer ça et iL voulait pas parce qu'il a peur que les autres le prennent mal... fak moi, Trog, greengoblin, et quelques autres joueurs on a commencé à jouer sur gog. Cel (Trog il a choisi de prendre le nom de son stream) avait rien à voir là dedans et là on joue légallement les samedi et dimanche soir. On a créé un nouveau discord et fuck war2ru xD
En gros.''


Traduction

'' So imagine that you were a little right ... not on everything but still ... Cel discovered security problems on the server ... like the log of passwords and convos with even whisper weren't just walking between admin like he practically passed it to everyone ... Cel told him to change that and he didn't want to because he's afraid others will take him badly ... So me, Trog, greengoblin, and a few other players we started playing on gog. Cel (Trog he chose to take the name of his stream) had nothing to do with it and there we play legally on Saturday and Sunday evening. We created a new discord and fuck war2ru xD
Basically. ''

So still false accusation?

Because i mean, at the biginning i was sure it was a joke too, but i realize cel dont play no more on RU and did reallly start to stream on gog... So it's hard to believe that's only false accusation.

I could show you way much more, discussion way much more important with other peoples about why a network of hackers hang on that server and why iL is doing nothing against them, discussion about why my familly have been blackmail and why they are hacking me, but im pretty sure that not the kind of conversations you wanna see on this forum, especially that one.

Im also gonna keep those conversation with me by respect to the person who reveal me that
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 07, 2020, 03:15:01 PM
Cel didn't say anything about anything like this in any place that I can see, but I will try to find out.

Quote
Cel discovered security problems on the server ... like the log of passwords and convos with even whisper weren't just walking between admin like he practically passed it to everyone ... Cel told him to change that and he didn't want to because he's afraid others will take him badly ...
What does this mean?  The server is insecure?  Then what happened, iL didn't agree?
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 07, 2020, 03:17:00 PM
Cel didn't say anything about anything like this in any place that I can see, but I will try to find out.

Quote
Cel discovered security problems on the server ... like the log of passwords and convos with even whisper weren't just walking between admin like he practically passed it to everyone ... Cel told him to change that and he didn't want to because he's afraid others will take him badly ...
What does this mean?  The server is insecure?  Then what happened, iL didn't agree?

Blid, we dont cares about what Cel is saying or not, Cel will not say anything because at the end he is a peace guy, and if i was seeing someone getting hacks and blackmail, i would probably shut my mouth too and just leave peacefully.. The only question you must ask yourself is, why Cel is playing and streaming on GoG now.

Especially when Cel told us for a month, the day he will discover something weird on this server, he will leave it for ever.

What you gonna say this time, Cel is also a paranoyak crazy person? Like me?

How much time it gonna take now before tora start to mute me while my family is blackmail? And How much time it gonna take before burnt came back and you guys gonna make the big drama because of his useless swapping account history while ''i repeat'' my family is blackmail?
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 07, 2020, 03:35:13 PM
If it's true, I've heard nothing about it.  Like I said, I will try to find out.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 07, 2020, 03:58:21 PM
If it's true, I've heard nothing about it.  Like I said, I will try to find out.

Yeah thats exactly what Cel was saying 1 month ago lol.

Anyway we all know why Tora love to mute someone like me while my family is blackmail...

I would probably too if i was saying thing like that.

(https://i.imgur.com/VTzOCO6.jpg)

I told you, while tora mute me because my family is blackmail, i still talk with alot of peoples...

I can show you way much more, my brotha.... Because those things we are talking right now, is just useless, the tip of the iceberg.

But thats not what i want, what i want is you guys delete my posts and account, and after you all can do your weird bizzneess...

I mean the one with the bots! But i guess you dont know about that too ;)
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 07, 2020, 04:16:30 PM
You keep saying your family is blackmailed.  If I'm not mistaken, there was someone using a name you found coincidental a few weeks ago.  Has anything happened since?  Have you seen that name again and is anyone saying anything to you ("blackmailing" you or threatening you in any way)?
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 07, 2020, 04:19:59 PM
It will not, because the day it happen, an investigation by Interpol will be made on this server and every connex servers, i told you, i got high grade police member in my family and hes dead serious when he say hes gonna check out Interpol himself. If you think im crazy and obsess, that's because you dont know that guy...

Maybe we never gonna find the one who blackmail me and my family, but an investigation will still be made, and we both know thats the last thing we want, including me, but the day my family is touch again, i swear to god you will not believe what gonna happen. 

Ps: And by the way, im pretty sure i know who blackmail my family, the best part of it, is, i also have his real name... And i have lot of real name players on this server who i believe are relate to this.

(I dont talk about Jason Anderson)

So not only the server will be investigate, but those peoples would be too.

I mean, make an effort guys, i dont want to be relate on this server anymore, just delete all my posts and account and you will never see me after, everyone gonna be happy.

Do ur secret buisnees and leave me go alone, thank you.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Sentinel1 on December 08, 2020, 12:43:43 AM
Please just stop posting.  Jesus christ.  Five people have to be such fuckin weirdos that they ruin the entire forum and community.  It's a game from like 1995.  Just sign on, play, sign off.  It's really simple.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 12:56:23 AM
Please just stop posting.  Jesus christ.  Five people have to be such fuckin weirdos that they ruin the entire forum and community.  It's a game from like 1995.  Just sign on, play, sign off.  It's really simple.

Dont mix jesus christ with criminals who keep other in hostage.

Delete my posts and account and you can bet for sure i will not be able to post anymore, other then that, this is what we call free speech.

And thats my entire right.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Szwagier on December 08, 2020, 02:08:52 AM
Please just stop posting.  Jesus christ.  Five people have to be such fuckin weirdos that they ruin the entire forum and community.  It's a game from like 1995.  Just sign on, play, sign off.  It's really simple.
+1
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 08, 2020, 03:55:00 AM
Delete my posts and account and you can bet for sure i will not be able to post anymore, other then that, this is what we call free speech.

You just want attention I think. Nobody is forcing you to post here.
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 06:27:38 AM
Delete my posts and account and you can bet for sure i will not be able to post anymore, other then that, this is what we call free speech.

You just want attention I think. Nobody is forcing you to post here.

I dont want to post, i want my post and my account delete, how much time i would have to say it?
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Available on December 08, 2020, 09:07:06 AM
while ''i repeat'' my family is blackmail?

If you are adequate stop lying and litter here and call the police (don't be surprised if, following the proceedings, the police tell you that you are crazy)
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Available on December 08, 2020, 09:08:00 AM
Why would he go through all of this work, post his findings on the forum and then leave without giving people a more concerning and straight forward answer?

Because Cel is disillusioned with peoples that doesn't care about everything, they likes to lie in a mud puddle, and they don't want to change anything. Apparently Cel does not want "to fight windmills".
...and EQ continues to add fictional dirt, as if real is not enough. Pure madness.

Cel just showed a normal human reaction - to get away from it. At least I have no other information.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 10:31:40 AM
Nice Cel is dellusioned paranoyak now.... He was the security master of this server, but now he is delusioned, unbalivable lol
Title: Re: Re: 2v2 GOW Tournament Saturday November 28th at 3pm Eastern
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 10:41:20 AM
while ''i repeat'' my family is blackmail?

If you are adequate stop lying and litter here and call the police (don't be surprised if, following the proceedings, the police tell you that you are crazy)

Yeah you are totally right, thats exactly why my uncle (police) told me the same, but he also told me the day something is happening for real to go see him back, and you dont want that my friend.

You must understand something, we dont know who does that for the moment, but something that we are sure, is, it's comming from that community or a connex one or even both togheter... And thats the only thing that really matter.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 10:55:18 AM
Disillusioned does not mean delusional.  Disillusioned means "gave up" not "insane"
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:01:58 AM
Disillusioned does not mean delusional.  Disillusioned means "gave up" not "insane"

Well if he gave up, it's probably not because of me, because all of his friends came to told me why he dont play anymore on war2ru and asking me to join them on gog..

Unfortunatly i dont want to play this game anymore.

The only thing we know for fact at the moment, is, Cel told us for an entire month, the day he gonna find something fishy on this server he will leave it for ever... And thats exactly what he does untill the moment iL give him acces to the data base.

The way he just leave seem like he is really scare of something too, thats weird as fuck.

Maybe he get blackmail too, who know? Since he just disappear like that...
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:13:24 AM
I mean, Cel was pretty motivated about all of this too, he was so determined that he was even about to make a blizzard code of conduct on the server because of me, and next thing we know, the day il give him acces to data base and they both get in confrontation, he just left like that saying nothing to no one and leave the server. Lol
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 11:27:36 AM
We were disagreeing on whether to use the whole blizzard code of conduct, or just our own set of rules.  I wanted to just use our own rules because the blizzard forum rules are 10,000 words long, and their server rules ban griefing and backstabbing.  I think he was disappointed I didn't think we should adopt the Blizzard rules.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:33:42 AM
We were disagreeing on whether to use the whole blizzard code of conduct, or just our own set of rules.  I wanted to just use our own rules because the blizzard forum rules are 10,000 words long, and their server rules ban griefing and backstabbing.  I think he was disappointed I didn't think we should adopt the Blizzard rules.

Bro, you have no rules at all, where are the rules about being ban because someone told his family have been blackmail?

Cel dint mute, Tora did it.... Tora the guy who admit that he got map hack from claw that no antihack or warvid cant detect.

I mean...

If im just crazy and everything i say it's pure delusion, you should laugh about that, not muting me.... Right?


Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:35:53 AM
What you got to say about that Tora?

(https://i.imgur.com/VTzOCO6.jpg)

Are you not Jason Anderson?

Why are you muting me for saying things like that openly in public, while you say same thing in private to other admin?

And not only that you say it, but you got it... Thats also pretty strange that claw disappear this month and also ask to get his account deleted...

Look like he know that was comming and he just left the boat before it sink.

Right?


(https://i.imgur.com/vBtXwxe.jpg)
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:48:18 AM
Tora Harrasing me

(https://i.imgur.com/doY8veD.jpg)

All of this have been done by Tora himself since the last 5 years.... It mean since i start talk about hackers on this server.

Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 11:51:15 AM
I mean...

If im just crazy and everything i say it's pure delusion, you should laugh about that, not muting me.... Right?
You get muted because of your manic behavior.  You start posting over and over with these complaints and you don't stop.  I think I have seen that image of Tora saying Claw made special hacks like 20 times by now. 

Everyone gets sick of it and says we need more rules to get rid of your posts.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 11:52:54 AM
For example, this is a thread that's supposed to be about player skill tiers.  Yet here we are talking about all your grievances.  Everyone gets mad at this kind of thing ruining discussions.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 11:57:09 AM
I mean...

If im just crazy and everything i say it's pure delusion, you should laugh about that, not muting me.... Right?
You get muted because of your manic behavior.  You start posting over and over with these complaints and you don't stop.  I think I have seen that image of Tora saying Claw made special hacks like 20 times by now. 

Everyone gets sick of it and says we need more rules to get rid of your posts.

You realize that i post over and over because instead of investigating on those things and give us answer, tora just move threads in flame so nobody paid attention to it?

If someone was asking for answer instead of removing topics and muting me it will not happen, right?

Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 12:00:20 PM
But you just take over all kinds of threads with these posts.  Thread about a 2v2 GOW tournament becomes about your complaints -- why?  That bothers people.  I have moved your complaints to this complaint box thread.  Please try to avoid hijacking other threads that are not about server issues.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 12:02:03 PM
But you just take over all kinds of threads with these posts.  Thread about a 2v2 GOW tournament becomes about your complaints -- why?  That bothers people.  I have moved your complaints to this complaint box thread.  Please try to avoid hijacking other threads that are not about server issues.

Well it's already a better way to act, thank you, but removing threads to flames and muting me it's just a way to feed paranoyak peoples like me as you guys say..

To be honnest, for me it's just prooving everything i say is right...

Because you guys will give us answer if it was false and you got proof.

I mean, you say you have seen this screen shot 20 times about tora admiting he have map hack that no AH and warvid cant detect, but nobody have never answer bout that yet. Why?

PS: btw, highjacking thread is just a part of auto defense against tora, because if i make my own thread he directly move them to flames, but if i post in other threads he cant...
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 12:16:38 PM
What kind of answer do you want?

Claw has been developing his own personal hacks for a long time.  That's common knowledge.  He also says he does not hack and never has hacked in a game.  If true then I suppose he develops hacks as a hobby and to test the AH, to see if it's possible that others could be out there hacking undetected.  And it seems like it is!  Even if we update the AH, users could still make new hacks to get around it.  I think the AH is useful but the best way to catch a hacker is to ask for a screenshot and make sure they post it immediately, and if you're suspicious of someone ahead of time then don't allow unknown watchers in the game (could be second window of the same player).
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 12:20:48 PM
What kind of answer do you want?

Claw has been developing his own personal hacks for a long time.  That's common knowledge.  He also says he does not hack and never has hacked in a game.  If true then I suppose he develops hacks as a hobby and to test the AH, to see if it's possible that others could be out there hacking undetected.  And it seems like it is!  Even if we update the AH, users could still make new hacks to get around it.  I think the AH is useful but the best way to catch a hacker is to ask for a screenshot and make sure they post it immediately, and if you're suspicious of someone ahead of time then don't allow unknown watchers in the game (could be second window of the same player).

lol.. Yeah right, we all know Claw make Hacks just for fun as hobby.... Are you kidding me lol.... Anyway he dont just make hacks for fun, he give them or sell them to peoples... Why tora have it?? Why tora never told that to community?? Especially since im getting ban by him for the last 5 years because i speak about those hacks and he call me crazy?
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 12:23:35 PM
It would not be simple to just say at community, Listen guys, Equinox is right, there peoples like claw who make crazy hack that even warvid cant detect, but we would be honnest, we cant do shit about it, those hackers are too good and we admins are not enouph skill to stop them... Equinox is not crazy, equinox is right....

No instead he call me crazy, banning me, muting me, moving my threads.

While he know all of this is true and he even have those hacks himself in is own computer lol.

Is that so hard of being honnest with the community, instead of trying to making me look like a crazy mad mother fucker?
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2020, 12:54:21 PM
He probably showed it to Tora because Tora is an admin, and he's showing Tora what kind of hacks could be out there, but I don't know, I can't really speak for Tora/Claw.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 12:59:01 PM
He probably showed it to Tora because Tora is an admin, and he's showing Tora what kind of hacks could be out there, but I don't know, I can't really speak for Tora/Claw.

Oh yeah, thats why he banned me for the last 5 years for saying the truth, while he know im right and he just muting me over and over, bro... If you dont want to be part of that scandal, what about just stop acting like a retard?
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 01:07:44 PM
You know... When ur family is in police, you developpe some skills in investigation and justice for peoples.

Do you understand now what kind of person i am, why i am so obsess by those things and why i want justice for everyone on that server?

Start to see the paint now?
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 08, 2020, 03:54:49 PM
He probably showed it to Tora because Tora is an admin, and he's showing Tora what kind of hacks could be out there, but I don't know, I can't really speak for Tora/Claw.

There was a thread in the admin section I created. Was to show IL the ways to bypass the AH and if it were possible to catch them.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Nox on December 08, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
He probably showed it to Tora because Tora is an admin, and he's showing Tora what kind of hacks could be out there, but I don't know, I can't really speak for Tora/Claw.

There was a thread in the admin section I created. Was to show IL the ways to bypass the AH and if it were possible to catch them.

First of all.... Nobody cares about ur secret thread the community cant see... If the community want to have answer about a probleme, you must give answer to the community.

Especially when community have no more confident at the staff, the fact that you make secret thread is not fixing our confidence.

Second of all.... When did you create that thread, and when did you have this discussion with burnt? 5 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago, 6 months ago, 1 month ago? When?? Can we also see that thread as a proof?

Third of all, did you ever mention in that thread it was not only about AH but Also about warvid? Because we all know for years now that peoples can bypass the AH, even if admins try to avoid those thread and act like there no issue there, but knowing we also can bypass the warvid is totally new.... This is something that we learn that month....

What make me even supcious is the fact that you made all those tournaments and inssisting to require WARVID.... Like if it will change someting while you know he wont be.... What i found really fucking disonnest since the only peoples who gonna get caught are the weak hackers whos probably only gonna download warcrap on google instead of bypassing the entire AH and warvid... At the end it's just a FREE PASS for experience hacker to keep hacking while they look legit....

Also, you realize you have ban/mute and harassing me for years because i was saying the truth while you knew it and instead of telling everyone i was right you were just harrassing me over and over acting like if i was just crazy? The same way lightbringer did before i caught all his lies!

How much years i have said i was sure it was possible to still map hack even with warvid???

Dont you remember all those tournaments i made and peoples was telling me to do like you and require warvid?? Do you remember my answer?? I will not, it's a waste of time because im sure they can bypass warvid and im confident it just bad for the game because nobody is suppose to waste there time to take warvid on every game and send it after.

So not only you have hide the fact that peoples was hacking by bypassing the AH and the warvid but also keeping to asking for warvid while you know experience player/hackers will bypass both of em.

So what was the point here? Letting experience peoples hacks us, while the morons one get caught and you seem to do ur job?

Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: Sentinel1 on December 09, 2020, 11:48:55 PM
nvm
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 10, 2020, 03:12:50 PM
When did you create that thread, and when did you have this discussion with burnt? 5 years ago, 2 years ago, 1 year ago, 6 months ago, 1 month ago? When?? Can we also see that thread as a proof?

Was in  June 19, 2017. No I can't make the thread public because it has a lot of sensitive information in it that discusses different ways to map hack on the server.

This is a game and an older one at that. Someone that wants to hack will always find a way to do so.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 10, 2020, 04:55:03 PM
Also, you realize you have ban/mute and harassing me for years because i was saying the truth while you knew it and instead of telling everyone i was right you were just harrassing me over and over acting like if i was just crazy? The same way lightbringer did before i caught all his lies!

Years....Lmao.

I only started modding this forum when Moustopher quit earlier this year. Even now I wish she would come back so I can wash my hands with modding this forum.
Title: Re: Equinox complaint box
Post by: ~ToRa~ on December 10, 2020, 05:38:26 PM
Dont you remember all those tournaments i made and peoples was telling me to do like you and require warvid?

That was to upload replays of the games on youtube.


So what was the point here? Letting experience peoples hacks us, while the morons one get caught and you seem to do ur job?

There isn’t a way to prove someone is using modified hacks unless they admit to it.