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Title: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 02:49:35 PM
As I posted in another thread, I feel like there's more active smurfs on nowadays than there have been in a long time.  I always wonder if many of them overlap and actually are the same people.  I wonder if I'm cool with the same person on one of their names and not on another.  I wonder if I think one player is better than another when they're the same.  I wonder if there's actually only like 20 active people instead of twice that.

Some of them are known and they aren't really secret anymore.  Maybe some are old and people will admit it was them.  So with that said, who is/was...

mrlemonade

Friendo

TingleTangle

Maut

Borch

KacnaPob

sunlounger

Jamesmcgill

PBRMEASAP

Million$Man

Earth[iS]

Dead.420.

E.Mikaelson

Couple I know or think I know...

TruthxRL - Lux

StarAlien -  Jynx

XBremer1 - 00Champion (I think)

Burton[iS]/Mythical - Greenagenda

Smoothwangs - Angel~Fire


Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2016, 02:57:50 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 28, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
A few of those people have been around for a long time.  Million$Man, Dead.420.
GreenAgenda isn't a smurf

McGill and PBRMEASAP have been around for awhile now... not sure I really consider them smurfs at this point.  XBremer1 is an old school guy.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
Didnt say GA was a smurf, said those two people are GA.

And yeah the others mighta been around awhile but they still were smurf names Im sure that they just stuck with.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 03:18:18 PM
Million$man has to have had stats transferred from another name cause he wasnt around when I used to play.  He just registered the name in 2015 and already has like 14k games played. 

Its probably you!
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 28, 2016, 03:26:22 PM
Oh I was confusing him with ONE$$$111JAMES, or maybe that is him, I forget.  I think probably separate guys that I was transposing
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2016, 04:14:51 PM
im still wondering what your war2 name is...
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on October 28, 2016, 04:28:41 PM
removed
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 04:32:21 PM
The key is in my signature if you can decipher it.

youre basically giving it away.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on October 28, 2016, 05:20:51 PM
im still wondering what your war2 name is...

I think thats muddoblaur or whatever

Maut is swift, for real
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 05:25:49 PM
Im Azazel.  Only reason I didnt say before is I didnt want to get banned from peoples games.  But I've played with you fine here and there TK and wouldnt boot you for some minor forum spat and hope you extend the same courtesy.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on October 28, 2016, 06:46:11 PM
Im Azazel.  Only reason I didnt say before is I didnt want to get banned from peoples games.  But I've played with you fine here and there TK and wouldnt boot you for some minor forum spat and hope you extend the same courtesy.

If Equinox, Van, Yamon, and 1230 don't get banned from people's games, you definitely wouldn't get banned. The only people that get banned are known hackers.

Sunlounger is also Jynx I think

More question is who is di$a$ter, a player that has a higher winning percentage vs. Spb than startale but is more humble than 99% of all war2 players.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: ~ToRa~ on October 28, 2016, 07:39:08 PM
My main smurf is "Kingsofqueens" right now but I got a few others as im sure everyone has.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: The Legend of StarTale on October 28, 2016, 09:11:32 PM
Who's Venruki?
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2016, 10:34:38 PM
I don't ever ban over silly disputes. I ban when watchers build or w e
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on October 28, 2016, 10:35:04 PM
And I'm muddobber. It's one of the names I play on when high
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 28, 2016, 10:55:38 PM
really, we had some decent battles on some sea maps on muddobber.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on October 29, 2016, 10:53:57 AM
Who's Venruki?

If venruki isnt swift, st, u8, jesk, or SG but is capable of beating yamon 5-1.

That leaves joe or lux

My guess is 00joe

That
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on October 29, 2016, 11:55:35 AM
Who are you benjamin?
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2016, 12:22:15 PM
Who's Venruki?

If venruki isnt swift, st, u8, jesk, or SG but is capable of beating yamon 5-1.

That leaves joe or lux

My guess is 00joe

That


dont think joe would 5-1 yamon. his strength is 2v2.

and there are a few other people who could 5-1 yamon
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on October 29, 2016, 01:09:49 PM
Keep in mind also that when you Smurf you have a higher chance of winning because the person you are playing against does not know how you play. But you know exactly how they play
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: LuX on October 29, 2016, 02:00:42 PM
And I'm muddobber. It's one of the names I play on when high


NutGobbler!
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Yamon on November 04, 2016, 06:55:15 PM
Who's Venruki?

If venruki isnt swift, st, u8, jesk, or SG but is capable of beating yamon 5-1.

That leaves joe or lux

My guess is 00joe

That



joe nor luix can beat me 5-1. it's startale moron.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 08, 2016, 01:40:18 AM
who was Bibleonthedash several years ago?
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Yamon on November 08, 2016, 10:44:23 AM
who was Bibleonthedash several years ago?
blazinbuks
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: LuX on November 08, 2016, 11:23:11 AM
who was Bibleonthedash several years ago?

Bible0nthedash was ~GoD~Speed
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on November 08, 2016, 11:56:32 AM
No way??  Are you sure
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: LuX on November 08, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
I'm positive that was Speed. He actually got pretty good at war2.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on November 08, 2016, 01:35:25 PM
I played like a thousand games with Godspeed back in the day though and never knew this
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 08, 2016, 04:19:06 PM
Who is hogsun and badfingaz and why do people keeping bringing them up? More Backstory is wanted.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 08, 2016, 04:42:24 PM
Both were guys that were around and very active for years and years playing gow but weren't very good and never seemed to get better at all.  Perfect candidates for jokes since everyone knew them since they were around for so long.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 08, 2016, 06:03:17 PM
both were slightly below average players. hogsun was famous for his "flower tower" at 2 o clock, and pretty much had a cannon tower at any other starting location whether he needed it or not.

i havent seen either one online in years ... hogsun disappeared first, fingaz next.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: ~ToRa~ on November 08, 2016, 06:18:41 PM
Fingaz still plays from time to time.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 08, 2016, 08:25:00 PM
both were slightly below average players. hogsun was famous for his "flower tower" at 2 o clock, and pretty much had a cannon tower at any other starting location whether he needed it or not.

i havent seen either one online in years ... hogsun disappeared first, fingaz next.

Spb does the same flower tower at 2, if he was willingly to adapt the same build as hogsun it couldn't have been that bad?
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Winchester on November 08, 2016, 09:24:59 PM
Bibleonthedash used to always be on $paCes teamspeak, so if you ever spoke to his original name on ts/vent/dis you'd probably know if it was him if you ever visited the teamspeak.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 10, 2016, 01:07:08 PM
both were slightly below average players. hogsun was famous for his "flower tower" at 2 o clock, and pretty much had a cannon tower at any other starting location whether he needed it or not.

i havent seen either one online in years ... hogsun disappeared first, fingaz next.

Spb does the same flower tower at 2, if he was willingly to adapt the same build as hogsun it couldn't have been that bad?


im not going to say the flower tower does SPB more harm than good, but the resources he spends on it/location he puts it could be better spent elsewhere. Also, SPB doesn't normally actually build the tower/upgrade it unless he feels like he needs it, where hogsun would auto-build/upgrade the tower without even knowing if it was necessary.

Towers for defence are a beautiful thing.. but it's important to not only know if/when to build them, but also if/when to upgrade them...

1 cannon tower 550g/200w to build ... 1000g/300w to upgrade to cannon.. that's 1550g/500w .. that's a huge setback when trying to beat your opponent to stronghold/mound/fort/altar/lust  .. if you're going to build it, better know for sure you need it.

players style/strat plays a factor also.. spb typically likes to play extremely defensively, force enemy to waste resources (grunts, ogres, cats, offensive towers, and the farm space needed to create those units) with macro as his main focus (expand as much as possible)  one of his strengths is peon production. so for him, it's not as devastating losing 10 gold peons at 2 o clock because he has 2 others town halls he is making peons from, and will continue making peons from 2 as soon as the threat is gone... a big part of the game is similar to chess, just trading units which have value and trying to accomplish it in a way where your enemy spends/loses more value than you in those exchanges. one of most player's potential weaknesses is that once they get to a certain point in the game, they focus less on peon production and more on offensive units. but like i said, spb always focuses on peon production. so if he loses 20-30 peons, but quickly replaces them, and manages to dk the enemies gold peons, and the enemy isnt as proficient at replacing those peons.. spb is ahead... but spb does not have a conventional style.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 10, 2016, 01:11:36 PM
basically hogsun would 2 rax rush and have a cannon tower going before he even scouted enemy

the whole goal of 2 rax rushing is to put immediate pressure on your enemy .. you can't put pressure on enemy if you're spending resources on cannons instead of grunts.

or maybe hogsun would scout, see that his enemy is also rushing, and out of fear build the cannon tower .. when the resources spent on the cannon tower would have been better spent on say a lvl 4 upgrade IF necessary
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 10, 2016, 08:09:42 PM
one of most player's potential weaknesses is that once they get to a certain point in the game, they focus less on peon production and more on offensive units. but like i said, spb always focuses on peon production. so if he loses 20-30 peons, but quickly replaces them, and manages to dk the enemies gold peons, and the enemy isnt as proficient at replacing those peons.. spb is ahead... but spb does not have a conventional style.

Even though I think it would be very difficult to figure out the exact numbers, I think there's a point where setting up an expansion and the cost of a huge amount of peon production can take such a long time to break even on that its not necessarily worth it for awhile.

For example, even though I come from a bne/f background, and still prefer it, I've actually always been more of a micro-oriented player than macro.  There are times when matches go to late-late game and I'll get outmined by 50-100k and still win, or lose when my opponent has less than 5k banked, and I think its largely due to making so many peons and the cost of expanding, something I don't do a lot of.  Maybe the way I play will ultimately stop me from ever evolving to the next level, but most of the time I'm just fine with 1 or 2 halls mining gold during late game. 
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Winchester on November 10, 2016, 08:39:06 PM
basically hogsun would 2 rax rush and have a cannon tower going before he even scouted enemy

I remember ReiBorsoi doing that all the time, we were both 2 raxing from 12/2 one time and he did that haha. Needless to say, His 2nd Rax was almost never pumping grunts as a result.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 17, 2016, 03:46:46 PM
Sooo who is Augustinus?
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 17, 2016, 04:17:50 PM
Sooo who is Augustinus?

Probably tk, tyrus, or jynx
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 17, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
It's not me and I'm about 99% sure it's not any of those other people either. I think I know who it is. Actually I'm pretty confident I know who it is
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 17, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Probably tk, tyrus, or jynx

nah hes better
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 17, 2016, 05:30:07 PM
Probably tk, tyrus, or jynx

nah hes better

But not too good since he is 0-2 vs. ST and 1-3 vs. Knitterhemd
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 17, 2016, 05:52:36 PM
Augustinus

if he is who i think he is, he isnt much better.. he just has a style that is not typical of most good players. but once you figure it makes the games a lot easier.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: mousEtopher on November 17, 2016, 06:34:46 PM
huh, I thought that aka was already outed
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 17, 2016, 07:22:45 PM
huh, I thought that aka was already outed

I wonder about you.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: mousEtopher on November 18, 2016, 10:48:10 AM
What do you wonder Benny
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: The Legend of StarTale on November 21, 2016, 11:01:40 AM
Sooo who is Augustinus?

That's sepi.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Sentinel1 on November 21, 2016, 04:26:18 PM
you sure?  his connection said USA.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on November 21, 2016, 04:36:24 PM
you sure?  his connection said USA.

If you finger sepi it says usa too
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: mousEtopher on November 21, 2016, 07:04:36 PM
countries reported on status page aren't 100% accurate, some portion of users are incorrectly labeled as USA
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: The Legend of StarTale on November 21, 2016, 08:54:26 PM
you sure?  his connection said USA.

Just by how mad he got by losing an s9/s9 war after i got there 2nd confirmed it for me
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 25, 2016, 11:12:44 PM
the way i found out was:

1) see if they're playing 1v1's  .. if they are, it already limits the amount of players it could be. not all top players play 1v1's

2) see who they play in 1v1's .. they can't possibly be the person they are playing.. so that eliminates potential players

3) see how they do against the people they are playing .. compare to other known players who have similar records

im extremely confident it's sepi as well.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 25, 2016, 11:17:38 PM
everyone saying StarAlien = Jynx .. i personally don't think so. from my memory jynx was typically a day player (U.S. time zone). StarAlien seems to be playing a lot at night

if what space says is true, and that he has been playing recently, i'm going to say staralien is space ... the only thing that doesnt line up with that is that jynx is a silent palyer (so is staralien) and space is not.. it would be impressive if space was able to keep his ego under control while smurfing all of those games.
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: tk[as] on November 25, 2016, 11:21:31 PM
looking through ladder.. Borch could be $pace as well .. lots of newb bashing, but still able to compete with some top players.. trying to get his skills back
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on December 08, 2016, 04:29:36 PM
Who was dw venom
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2016, 04:44:28 PM
Iirc that one was Lux
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: BenJamin on December 08, 2016, 04:47:49 PM
Iirc that one was Lux

I thought reaper was lux
Title: Re: Smurf speculation thread
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on December 08, 2016, 05:01:25 PM
Oh yeah that's true.  Good thing I prefaced my post with the ol "iirc" disclaimer, forgot there were multiple pro DWs