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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: tk[as] on January 10, 2015, 12:39:45 PM
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I created a facebook community https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness (https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness)
due to the nature of the page, i have the ability to "boost"(advertise) a post I make so that literally thousands can see it. I just spent $30 boosting this post. it's supposed to reach up to like 20,000 people.
hopefully it helps.
Please "Like" the facebook page if you get a chance... more "likes" might look attractive to other new users viewing the page.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/war2_zpsf4f4a766.png)
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If anyone can help out with advertising, i can reach a lot more people with more money obviously.
my paypal is spencermarkguffey@yahoo.com ... i will post verification of where the money went here on the forums if that is a concern for anyone.
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Don't understand how it can have 4 likes but get 20,000 views?
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i just made the AD 2 hours ago... it has already "reached" 118 people. I was just playing a game with ^adam^ and mentioned it and he was like "Oh, thats your page? ... i just saw it on my timeline and "liked" it.
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it's not important that they "like" my page... what's important is that they see the AD for server.war2.ru
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as of right now, it appears to be our best potential tool for advertising for the least amount of money.
i can afford the $30 every so often, but the more people help me, the more we can advertise... it all comes down to how bad people want more people on the server.
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Liked it.
But why to make the new page? Woudn't it better to advertise the old existant combat page and war2server group with 1000+ likes & members?
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that type of "group" page doesn't allow the same type of advertising i dont think. i asked burnt if he had the option to advertise on the server.war2.ru group page and he said no... so i made this page to do it.
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This is just from the last 4-5 hours ... the post i made advertising server.war2.ru gets "seen/reached" by almost 100 people per hour.
i set it up to "target" a specific demographic of people ages 13-50 who have showed an interest in Warcraft 2 specificially, but also other RTS games like broodwar, war3, SC, SC2 etc...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zpsc0e6174b.png)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zps247f737e.png)
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I just added countries: Location:
Australia
Brazil
Canada
Germany
France
Italy
South Korea
Mexico
Poland
Russia
to the "targeted group" ... facebook is saying i should "reach" 11k-22k now PER DAY. thats like 80k MINIMUM over the course of my advertisement.... right now roughly 2% of everyone who sees the ad is clicking on it. (1,600 should click it by the time the AD runs completely) .. even if only 400-500 of all those people actually log on and start playing war2 i'd say it's a huge success
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Maybe iL can check how many new users compared to normal we get signed up and see if its worth it.
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even if only 40 or so end up logging on and playing regularly im going to do it again ... $1 per new active user would be worth it to me.
the only 2 things that's going to keep them from being active at this point are:
1) hosting
2) people banning them from games
not many people are going to stick around on a game where they constantly get banned, and can't host their own game after they're banned.
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you notice its a lot of 13-17 year olds like we use to be...guys with the free time to be quite active...
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damn... once i changed those settings and added all of those countries i got like 700 more "reaches" in an hour(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zps44ff3d51.png)
these people are going to be pissed when they log on and cant host lol
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End of the day numbers. The AD has been running 8hrs so far... (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zps3a842561.png)
61 people have "liked" the status update itself.
73 people have clicked on the link and looked at server.war2.ru
if these numbers continue we can expect over 200 people to visit server.war2.ru every day for the next 6 days. hopefully they download, log on, and play ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zpsc025ca68.png)
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Now lets just hope the website does not crash [emoji24].
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You'd be suprised how many people click on it thinking its world of warcraft because "Warcraft" is in the title. So i'd think its a bit less then what it says
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u might be right.. but i did intentionally target people who have already liked Warcraft II Tides of Darkness.
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If you guys can click on this link and leave a comment war2 related, it would really make others who view it more interested i think.
https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness/posts/778721542222937?notif_t=like (https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness/posts/778721542222937?notif_t=like)
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This is cool, FBA definitely have a lot of potential for their affordability and reach. It's nice to see someone taking some strong initiative to advertise & spread awareness, kudos tk!
We should definitely collect as much data as possible while the ads are running to get a more accurate picture of ROI; the numbers can look pretty good (x impressions, y clicks) but we need to figure out how many war2combat downloads that actually translates into -- I'll see if I can set up analytics to track the behavior of traffic referred from FB. Likewise, even if someone does download it doesn't necessarily make them a new long term player, but it's a starting point. Have you done any split testing of multiple ad layouts to see what gets better results?
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who's the facebook whore now?!?!?!?
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what does 65 people "Talking about this" mean?
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iL how many new users created accounts since yesterday?
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INSIGHTS SUMMARY
23 New Likes
197 Talking About This
3,329 Weekly Total Reach
i think by "talking about this" it means they have either "liked" the page itself, or the post/advertisement.
according to the facebook AD statistics, as of right now 216 people have taken the time to click the AD itself whether it was just to look at it, like it, or post in it. its telling me that roughly 7% of everyone who sees it clicks on it.
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The numbers online the server have been high the entire day, I say keep running!
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lots of times on facebook, if i were to "like" a post, others on my friends list can see what i "like" as well.. so it potentially could be "reaching" even more people than its listing.
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its got 5 more days to run
the more money we throw at it, the more people it can reach... so we will see how it does by the end of the week and maybe others will come together to chip in.
if it's successful, i personally don't have any problem re-running similar ADs every so often. maybe throw $30 bucks at it once a month or bi-monthly.
there is another promotion option i want to try next. it's geared towards targeting people likely to "like" your community page itself. the number facebook predicts is for every $10 spent, im likely to get 20-50 page likes. if people just like the community page they will see the majority of the posts i make on the community page... every page like i get is pretty much an opportunity to advertise to those people who like the page regularly until they cave in and check the server out :)
roughly 190 people have "liked" the advertisement itself seen here ----> https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness/posts/778721542222937?notif_t=like (https://www.facebook.com/War2TidesOfDarkness/posts/778721542222937?notif_t=like)
if you guys can log on facebook and comment on that advertisement saying something positive about War2 others will see it.. just one more way to get the people who see it interested.
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id say it's a success if we reach 100+ users online at one time by next sunday.
iL mentioned something about resolving hosting for many i think ? ... if thats the case, can that be included in the download page so the new users downloading war2 for the first time have a better chance to host?
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GaNz To the rescue again with his genius ideas lol:
Advertise on ICCUP:
http://iccup.com/en/ads.html (http://iccup.com/en/ads.html)
THe packages are in russian rubels but I tried converting them and you can get 1000 hits for 23 or 31 cents depending on the banner size, or you can have the banners up for a month for $115 or $163 depending on the package.
The page gets 140,000 hits a day so if you had that banner up on their site for a month, think of all the players you could get and these are RTS players who play a game with graphics on bar with war2.
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someone needs to make a banner it looks like ... id be willing to go for the $100 if a couple others wanted to chip in... maybe 4-5 of us put $20-25 towards it
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iL how many new users created accounts since yesterday?
There are many smurfs created their accounts daily, but here's what we have for last days:
day NewAccsPerDay
2015-01-12 03:00:00 54
2015-01-11 03:00:00 72
2015-01-10 03:00:00 45
2015-01-09 03:00:00 34
2015-01-08 03:00:00 57
2015-01-07 03:00:00 57
2015-01-06 03:00:00 60
2015-01-05 03:00:00 59
2015-01-04 03:00:00 59
2015-01-03 03:00:00 49
2015-01-02 03:00:00 57
2015-01-01 03:00:00 40
2014-12-31 03:00:00 40
2014-12-30 03:00:00 64
2014-12-29 03:00:00 69
2014-12-28 03:00:00 53
2014-12-27 03:00:00 46
2014-12-26 03:00:00 22
2014-12-25 03:00:00 69
2014-12-24 03:00:00 39
2014-12-23 03:00:00 49
2014-12-22 03:00:00 36
2014-12-21 03:00:00 28
2014-12-20 03:00:00 30
2014-12-19 03:00:00 28
2014-12-18 03:00:00 29
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it sucks it doesnt tell us which ones are new IPs
and holy fuck at how many people smurf lol
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How many War2Combat downloads in the last few days?
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i think mousetopher said there isn't a current system to identify how many downloads per day... but she is working on trying to set something up for it.
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Great work guys! I went ahead and LIKED me some war2. Not a lot of time to play lately but I will be back in due time. :)
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The old page used to have a download counter
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As of right now:
INSIGHTS SUMMARY
29 New Likes
267 Talking About This
3,589 Weekly Total Reach
~ 245 have "liked" the AD
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i have the ability to "pause" the advertisement ... right now i have it set up to run for 1 week. I can change how the ad runs though. I can pause it right now if i want, then adjust the AD so that it only runs for 1 or 2 days.
i wonder if i should pause it tomorrow morning, then resume it maybe thursday or friday for only 1 or 2 days
i think what would happen is instead of spacing the advertisements out over a week time frame, it would just "mass attack" all of the targeted people in 1-2 days.... i wonder if this would be a good strategy. time it so everyone sees the advertisement close to the weekend so we will get a mass showing of new users saturday/sunday. one possible benefit to that is it would give iL time to test the hosting fix and get the kinks worked out so if we did get a "flood" of new users on the weekend, hosting might be resolved? ...
thoughts?
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Yea sounds good, people look to play a new games probably on the weekend.
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There have been a few new faces i had seen in War2BNE today. They seemed like new gamers.
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i think mousetopher said there isn't a current system to identify how many downloads per day... but she is working on trying to set something up for it.
That's because Mousie isnt a system administrator. There ARE ways to count them, just that she doesnt know anything about things like AWStats. It's a log analyzer that works for webservers as well as FTP servers.
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combat is located on war2.ru ftp now, so, stats is my question.
Here's it, but i'm not sure how to interpret stats:
They all looks like different and real visitors, are all these people really download it daily?..
date - NumberOfDownloads
Jan 05 - 104
Jan 06 - 125
Jan 07 - 111
Jan 08 - 138
Jan 09 - 139
Jan 10 - 139
Jan 11 - 148
Jan 12 - 88 (still not finished)
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100+ people downloading it everyday and there is never even 100 on? thats weird.
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That's definitely a lot of downloads per day.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zps6be0a93c.png)
about 300 people have clicked "like" on the original server.war2.ru advertisement.
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i've spent $13 of the total $38 (~35%) .. $25 left to go
if this trend keeps up, looks like we can expect to:
get about 120 page likes
get about 1,000 people to like the advertisement itself.
"reach" close to 24,000
im really hoping we have some sort of indication as to how successful this AD has been by the end of this weekend.
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Mousetopher needs to install google analytics on server.war2.ru website, that way you will be able to see how many people come from the ad to the server.war2.ru websie and download the game.
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if she does i will probably run the AD one more time (hopefully with some small financial help/donations from others to reach thousands of more people)
also interested in ICCUP if we can get soemone to make a good solid banner for the advertisement
im willing to spend some more money to at least try to re-build some of this community
i really hope IL is able to get hosting for more people to work first though... and some sort of tracking system like you said to see how productive it really is
throwing another $100-200 bucks at the advertising end would be worth it in my opinion
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let me know if people need help hosting, i can work with them
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Mousetopher needs to install google analytics on server.war2.ru website, that way you will be able to see how many people come from the ad to the server.war2.ru websie and download the game.
Already.
Here it is:
(http://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=246.0;attach=114)
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also interested in ICCUP if we can get soemone to make a good solid banner for the advertisement
Here you go
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@player works for me.
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currently 68 users online on a tuesday evening? that seems more like numbers we would see on the weekend.
this advertisement might be helping
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INSIGHTS SUMMARY
59 New Likes
385 Talking About This
15,666 Weekly Total Reach
a little over ~340 page likes.
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@player works for me.
boobs too small.
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I need an avatar.....gonna click a selfie soon with my Andrew luck beard
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I need an avatar.....gonna click a selfie soon with my Andrew luck beard
(http://i57.tinypic.com/34otq0w.jpg)
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IMO the streams are more productive. Example from my stream chat tonight:
<neodoodle> ty for the war2.ru link i have missed this game
* neodoodle (neodoodle@neodoodle.tmi.twitch.tv) has joined #twilight_zne
* gooseisgay (gooseisgay@gooseisgay.tmi.twitch.tv) has joined #twilight_zne
<neodoodle> been practicing my orc :D
<arby2121> double hall boys lol at five
<arby2121> he is in your base
<homesmac> ty
* temmy69 (temmy69@temmy69.tmi.twitch.tv) has joined #twilight_zne
<temmy69> didnt know someone still plays this :D
<kinggubbi> think you have viewer record today lance 19
* karl828 (karl828@karl828.tmi.twitch.tv) has left #twilight_zne
<arby2121> hey lance can you drink a red bull or something and play for a few more hours i have no plans this evening and i'm thinking of ordering a pizza
<arby2121> that was a close call i almost spit out my mountain dew
These are just from tonight. It's getting more popular by the day ;)
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Hmm was arby2121 asking u out? [emoji6] [emoji16] [emoji14] [emoji2]
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nice lance :D
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did you really have 19 viewers? wow.
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did you really have 19 viewers? wow.
No, there were actually 24 but at the time, there was 19 yes. I've had more than that in the past. Whenever I play hearthstone, I get maybe 4 viewers. War2 definitely has more draw than HS whenever I play it. Maybe I just suck to hard at HS or people dont like watching me play a trolling priest deck? lol
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it sucks it doesnt tell us which ones are new IPs
and holy fuck at how many people smurf lol
I check chayliss and it had a low number...I made a new account and it was like 20k or 200k or some stupid number of accounts in total on the server...should do some kind of reg like kali maybe a purge of the system and a restart...attempt to keep guys to 1 account name....maybe tie it to forum accounts...keep continuity and increases chances of being able to build relationships if guys aren't logging on one of their 100 names
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I need an avatar.....gonna click a selfie soon with my Andrew luck beard
([url]http://i57.tinypic.com/34otq0w.jpg[/url])
rofl thanks bro
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I just made a new name and it said I was 1,124,583th account... with the /finger accountname
chayliss was #953 account
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I need an avatar.....gonna click a selfie soon with my Andrew luck beard
([url]http://i57.tinypic.com/34otq0w.jpg[/url])
rofl thanks bro
lol i just went to occult and saved it then came back here and posted it for you :P
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BIG Thanks to X-DW-X)BuRnT( for running another facebook AD!
We just broke 100 online users :D
... If iL gets all of the updates included in the new War2Combat download by Thursday, I'm going to throw out another Facebook AD starting Friday morning and run it for 2 days. (fri morning - sunday morning) .... Between mine and Burnt's post i wouldnt be surprised if we get close to 150 online users this coming weekend :D
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Whats expected in this updated war2combat release?
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Whats expected in this updated war2combat release?
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No more bots which means clan evil is dead.
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i think the stuff mentioned here: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,249.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,249.0.html)
maybe other things, im not entirely sure
my main concern is at least including the hosting fix so i dont advertise to a bunch of people who aren't going to be able to host.
i realize some still will have issues, but most are going to have to be able to host to keep them playing on the server.
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iL should also make the entire War2combat autoupdatable so you don't need to download the new combat every time a new one comes out, since most people never bother to do this.
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Well, new combat 4.01 is almost ready, i just have to test it carefully and update War2PLoader also.
Everything else is ready, i hope to release it tomorrow evening
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will WPpatch be gone?
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Yes, it causes lots false positives.
I'll replace it with War2PLoader, latency and res bug fix are working for the new version already.
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iL: can i advertise server.war2.ru now? is the update included in new download?
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Well, i need several more hours maybe, if everything goes fine. Not sure to release it today or tomorrow.
Can you advertise the server now and to let people see the update if i release it soon?
Is the advertise something like to move your page up in the list or w/e?
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its an advertisement on facebook that other's see.. I can wait if thats what we need to do, but advertising costs money and I dont want to pay money to invite everyone to the server before the hosting fix is included. I want the new users to download war2combat and have a better chance of hosting games so they don't leave because they can't host.
so i will just wait until it's ready.
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it would look something like this.. lots of people would see it on the side of their facebook page:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v56/SMGuffer/Untitled_zpsba7a91e4.png)
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got trouble with test comp installation, so... tomorrow
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k
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me and burnt have different types of advertising going on right now.
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Cool! Good luck!
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got trouble with test comp installation, so... tomorrow
Trouble looks serious...
I have to rewrite some stuff to make it working on every single computer. Fortunately rewrite chance looks possible.
But i have to move the release date...
Several days probably...