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Warcraft II => Mods & Development => Topic started by: salvadorc17 on June 17, 2016, 06:16:10 PM

Title: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 17, 2016, 06:16:10 PM: Hey, just want to ask if is possible to create or modify behavior for the Ai player, or create new Ai to allow custom behaviors..
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Delete mine too on June 17, 2016, 06:17:58 PM: https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai (https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai)
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Ze_sAiNt on June 18, 2016, 03:59:38 AM: Quote from: salvadorc17 on June 17, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
Hey, just want to ask if is possible to create or modify behavior for the Ai player, or create new Ai to allow custom behaviors..

Spb is a good example of AI that has been modified over time. Why don't you ask him? [emoji1]

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Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 18, 2016, 08:29:03 PM: Thanks for the info, that old document is really valuable.

Quote from: Ze_sAiNt on June 18, 2016, 03:59:38 AM

Spb is a good example of AI that has been modified over time. Why don't you ask him? [emoji1]

Spb?? What do you mean?
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Winchester on June 18, 2016, 09:23:38 PM: Quote from: salvadorc17 on June 18, 2016, 08:29:03 PM
Thanks for the info, that old document is really valuable.

Quote from: Ze_sAiNt on June 18, 2016, 03:59:38 AM

Spb is a good example of AI that has been modified over time. Why don't you ask him? [emoji1]

Spb?? What do you mean?

Thats just a joke about one of the players we have online. :P
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Warchief Lightbringer- on June 19, 2016, 06:30:54 AM: That player actually thinks it is true ...
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on June 20, 2016, 01:21:15 PM: wow nice tupac 8).. stick that in the mod main.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Delete mine too on June 20, 2016, 03:46:01 PM: Quote from: easycompany on June 20, 2016, 01:21:15 PM
wow nice tupac 8).. stick that in the mod main.
Well also found these pdf files from a war2 site from someone from here.. forgot what language it was though...

Anyone feel free to add on to that thread with information if you have something i missed. :)
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on June 23, 2016, 09:09:48 PM: Good findings, hard to create new ai, will try and comment results..
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Delete mine too on June 23, 2016, 09:15:03 PM: Quote from: salvadorc17 on June 23, 2016, 09:09:48 PM
Good findings, hard to create new ai, will try and comment results..
Need any help let me know ive done it before.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 13, 2016, 10:17:25 AM: Quote from: tupac on June 23, 2016, 09:15:03 PM

Need any help let me know ive done it before.

Using Wardraft give to edit AI give me file corrupt while in game, you have any idea, why this happen?
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Delete mine too on July 14, 2016, 01:59:19 AM: Quote from: salvadorc17 on July 13, 2016, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: tupac on June 23, 2016, 09:15:03 PM

Need any help let me know ive done it before.

Using Wardraft give to edit AI give me file corrupt while in game, you have any idea, why this happen?

What file did you extract from war draft tell me the number. And you renamed the file to ai.bin and placed in war2.mpq?
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 26, 2016, 10:03:47 AM: I got it working, now i have a interesting active AI that act as ally, and attack my enemies.

(http://i66.tinypic.com/a3cc47.png)
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 26, 2016, 10:15:57 AM: nice man!!! 8)
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on July 28, 2016, 11:04:37 AM: Quote from: tupac on June 17, 2016, 06:17:58 PM
[url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai[/url] ([url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai[/url])

Excuse me, I just have saw that link and can't download WinMPQ. It says haven't been archived in that website. How can I get it? Thanks !
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 28, 2016, 11:11:05 AM: http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/downloads/WinMPQ.html (http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/downloads/WinMPQ.html) you want to get the runtimes if it doesn't work.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on July 28, 2016, 04:24:15 PM: Quote from: easycompany on July 28, 2016, 11:11:05 AM
[url]http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/downloads/WinMPQ.html[/url] ([url]http://sfsrealm.hopto.org/downloads/WinMPQ.html[/url]) you want to get the runtimes if it doesn't work.

You are the best thank you so much.
I have been looking for this software but then tried to use this guide being posted in the beginning of thread but I'm actually wondering if previously had some screenshoots to show because only shows text. This is the link posted: https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai (https://web.archive.org/web/20150424013642/http://www.warlords-of-warcraft2.com/index.php/new-computer-ai)

So I tried to use the guide but can't find rez/ai.bin or any similar file inside war2dat.mpq , I would appreciate if you have any other guide to help or how to see "screenshoots" in that previous guide sent by tupac. I would appreciate so much some help. I love so much the game.
Regards
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 28, 2016, 08:25:35 PM: (http://i64.tinypic.com/2dsk0md.jpg) i seen some stuff in wardraft for the ai but i have yet to even try to mess with them.good luck on your quest!

you may want to look in war2patch.mpq also if there's one in it it will use that one over war2dat.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on July 29, 2016, 02:51:27 PM: Quote from: easycompany on July 28, 2016, 08:25:35 PM
([url]http://i64.tinypic.com/2dsk0md.jpg[/url]) i seen some stuff in wardraft for the ai but i have yet to even try to mess with them.good luck on your quest!

you may want to look in war2patch.mpq also if there's one in it it will use that one over war2dat.

My friend, I was imagining to see something like that , instead I got these couple of names. Any idea how to show rez\ files?
The image has been attached.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 29, 2016, 03:45:52 PM: oh lol you need a file list!!!

Quote from: tupac on August 29, 2015, 04:30:09 AM
Edit campaigns manually.
Get a MPQ editor.

[url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url] ([url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url])
[url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url])

Open Ladik's MPQ Editor for example. Click the tools tab > click add > navigate to the path where you downloaded the ATTACHED list file below > click ok

Spoiler
([url]http://s27.postimg.org/7wbjqp5tv/image.png[/url])

Time to edit WarCraft II!

File > Open MPQ > Go to where WarCraft II is installed > Open war2dat.mpq

Spoiler
([url]http://s24.postimg.org/d9wlabhgl/image.png[/url])

You can extract these maps and change them and place them back. BOOM done. Go play your custom campaigns. If you would like to change other things such as text, you would need a .bin editor.
List files [url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url])

referring tupac he has it posted! use warbne list file in that zip.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on July 29, 2016, 09:13:14 PM: Quote from: easycompany on July 29, 2016, 03:45:52 PM
oh lol you need a file list!!!

Quote from: tupac on August 29, 2015, 04:30:09 AM
Edit campaigns manually.
Get a MPQ editor.

[url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url] ([url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url])
[url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url])

Open Ladik's MPQ Editor for example. Click the tools tab > click add > navigate to the path where you downloaded the ATTACHED list file below > click ok

Spoiler
([url]http://s27.postimg.org/7wbjqp5tv/image.png[/url])

Time to edit WarCraft II!

File > Open MPQ > Go to where WarCraft II is installed > Open war2dat.mpq

Spoiler
([url]http://s24.postimg.org/d9wlabhgl/image.png[/url])

You can extract these maps and change them and place them back. BOOM done. Go play your custom campaigns. If you would like to change other things such as text, you would need a .bin editor.
List files [url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url])

referring tupac he has it posted! use warbne list file in that zip.

Thank you for your help friend I will check it out. I'm trying or I would like to know if I can modify warcraft 2 all campaigns with hardcore AI , some missions would look really challening if they become way more aggressive ( a couple of missions gets bugged and do nothing which is really awful).
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 29, 2016, 10:21:51 PM: use war2exed editor, single player im getting my ass kicked ...it has a lot of options..im using expansion 36..i cant beat them in solo missions they slack in multi.

play this on default all ...u wont survive but shows how dam aggressive the ai can be....i have to do more testing in bnet its not the same as it is in single.

ahhh yeah that map works on ums default .......they do what there supposed to do....kick ya ass!!!!

2 people maybe can if there good ..recommend the full 3 of average players.

all the ai does is foot archer then some ballistas but they dont stop rushing once it starts!
adding some heroes to protect the new people ... difficulty is on up there! :)

compuserve is obsolete it is now compugaden 4x4 counting on the cpu .... in map section
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on July 30, 2016, 11:32:12 AM: (http://i66.tinypic.com/2hxpmyc.jpg)

not the same as ai editing but theres lots to choose from!
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: Delete mine too on July 30, 2016, 12:38:47 PM: Quote from: pasildan on July 29, 2016, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: easycompany on July 29, 2016, 03:45:52 PM
oh lol you need a file list!!!

Quote from: tupac on August 29, 2015, 04:30:09 AM
Edit campaigns manually.
Get a MPQ editor.

[url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url] ([url]http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/tools-560/ladiks-mpq-editor-32bit-249562/[/url])
[url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html[/url])

Open Ladik's MPQ Editor for example. Click the tools tab > click add > navigate to the path where you downloaded the ATTACHED list file below > click ok

Spoiler
([url]http://s27.postimg.org/7wbjqp5tv/image.png[/url])

Time to edit WarCraft II!

File > Open MPQ > Go to where WarCraft II is installed > Open war2dat.mpq

Spoiler
([url]http://s24.postimg.org/d9wlabhgl/image.png[/url])

You can extract these maps and change them and place them back. BOOM done. Go play your custom campaigns. If you would like to change other things such as text, you would need a .bin editor.
List files [url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url] ([url]http://www.zezula.net/download/listfiles.zip[/url])

referring tupac he has it posted! use warbne list file in that zip.

Thank you for your help friend I will check it out. I'm trying or I would like to know if I can modify warcraft 2 all campaigns with hardcore AI , some missions would look really challening if they become way more aggressive ( a couple of missions gets bugged and do nothing which is really awful).

Also make sure the map and AI used are matched. Example that is very important.

1. Gold, lumber(you set AI to make tons of archers, but got one peon chopping wood... vise versa.)

2. Room for CPU to build.

3. Make sure you plan the AI out, and the maps also.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on July 31, 2016, 05:34:46 PM: Easy way to fix, is to improve land attack AI, this default is used in so many maps, not campaign included.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 03, 2016, 10:29:16 PM: Thank you guys for all your help and guides. I finally tried to modify some missions on war2 editor and tried to modify a little bit terrain and units but then I replace the archive into mpq file so afterwards trying to test it on the game , boom a crash !

Some way to make it working? I just read another thread from a guy who used mpqeditor WinMPQ instead of ladiks mpq editor. Same results.
I would appreciate some help :D
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:31:32 PM: what mpq file u editing?
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 03, 2016, 10:32:16 PM: Quote from: easycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:31:32 PM
what mpq file u editing?

War2dat.mpq like guides are saying.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:33:05 PM: lol ok what file in it?
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 03, 2016, 10:35:30 PM: Quote from: easycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:33:05 PM
lol ok what file in it?

For example i tried to modify Human01.pud so then moved it into ladiks editor to replace original human01.pud and then going into the game.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:37:28 PM: ok i have done this the other day it should work...if it blacks out after mission briefing the file isnt there or is misnamed and you will be back at the menu.

im making a patch hopefully it will work and you can stay out of the main .mpq
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:49:39 PM: ok the first human mission is gowbne lol sorry about that.... but edit this sucker to your liking....u may want to use beyond the dark portal for your customs as they dont have the noob start like tides.

the bytdp name is
Campaign\XHuman\2XHum01.PUD thru Campaign\XHuman\2XHum12.PUD
Campaign\XOrc\2XOrc01.PUD thru Campaign\XOrc\2XOrc12.PUD
u can just rename mine better yet just add them in better safe than sorry idk if it would bug if tides is missing.

if u use winmpq be sure to delete the orignal before you put your mission in and it should be named as 2xhum01.pud and saved to Campaign\XHuman\.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 03, 2016, 10:56:17 PM: Quote from: easycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:49:39 PM
ok the first human mission is gowbne lol sorry about that.... but edit this sucker to your liking....u may want to use beyond the dark portal for your customs as they dont have the noob start like tides.

the bytdp name is
Campaign\XHuman\2XHum01.PUD thru \2xhum12.pud

u can just rename mine

I'm sorry very much finally I catch up what is going on. I was working with a copy of original war2dat.mpq so once the map was modified I copied into .mpq and then replacing the original one into war2 BNE main folder.

The problem was being made about the restriction "Read-only" from original .mpq . So I removed simply original .mpq and then moving the copy (with human01.pud modified inside). Boom ! it worked perfectly

So I would like to know if you knows how to remove restriction "read-only". I tried in properties with the main folder installation and .mpq original giving permission to modify anything but still doesn't work. Any idea? Thanks for all your help !!
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:59:59 PM: mmm mine only "reads restrictions" only when i have war2 running ...no idea man yes copy will get around that.

but after you got your missions complete its best to move them to a war2patch.mpq so other people can play without downloading the big war2dat.mpq.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 03, 2016, 11:04:03 PM: Quote from: easycompany on August 03, 2016, 10:59:59 PM
mmm mine only "reads restrictions" only when i have war2 running ...no idea man yes copy will get around that.

but after you got your missions complete its best to move them to a war2patch.mpq so other people can play without downloading the big war2dat.mpq.

I will remember it. thanks anyway my friend. Just tried to use winmpq it's really cool too thanks again :)

If this problem just happens to anybody else. I had to remove war2dat.mpq from installation folder. Then just copy your modified maps for missions into your war2dat.mpq (COPY from the original) and then move it into war2 BNE installation folder. So then it worked for me , it doesn't matter which mpq editor you are using.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: shesycompany on August 03, 2016, 11:05:50 PM: k great ladiks has a better user interface. good luck happy moddin!
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: fascinating111 on August 04, 2016, 08:28:18 AM: I have made more tests and got again the same crushed game. But finally got the final answer.
I used WinMPQ and this time everything worked perfectly. You doesn't need to remove original war2dat.mpq from installation folder.
Just extracted campaign files from original .mpq so then modified the map and replaced the original one into the .mpq USING WINMPQ.
I don't know why but doing the last process with ladiks mpq editor produces a bug when testing the map on the game.
Title: Re: AI editing??
Post by: salvadorc17 on August 05, 2016, 03:52:50 PM: Youre trying to insert new campaign maps using custom aI??