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Title: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 16, 2015, 10:54:46 AM
This is a 20-year-old game

There are some diehards around that continue to play, but that base of diehards will, inevitably, dwindle slowly.  So we have fewer and fewer players

There's two obvious best ways to keep the community going:

1) Bring back old players, or make old players who drop in want to stick around
-Possible advertising, tournaments, etc.
-Do not greet players who come back (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html)) with a bunch of flames between Equinox and Ryu and Winchester, do not shit on them for posts they made 5 years ago.
-Don't ban names you don't recognize or people with fewer games or bad records from your games.  Give them a chance to show what they can do
ie - don't be a shithead

2) Bring in new players, see if they can learn the game
-Create clans like dw for new players, don't shit on people for being in newb clans
-Help them learn the game, figure out latency
-If you won't let them play, at least let them watch.  s9? -> ban is a good way to make sure none of the new players that find the server ever stick around or learn the game
ie - don't be a shithead (recurring theme)

3) Programming things that could help accomplish the above
-Lat fixes, autohost/host bot
-Any other suggestions?
Title: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 16, 2015, 11:23:59 AM

There's two obvious best ways to keep the community going:

1) Bring back old players, or make old players who drop in want to stick around
-Possible advertising, tournaments, etc.
-Do not greet players who come back ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html[/url])) with a bunch of flames between Equinox and Ryu and Winchester, do not shit on them for posts they made 5 years ago.



Shouldn't be too difficult to manage that.


-Any other suggestions?


Might be a good idea to do your job as a mod and remove the flame before it gets out of hand.


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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Yamon on July 16, 2015, 11:52:05 AM
Lol i'm x-DW-x)Yamon( for a reason, i've been gathering up all the noobs, teaching them how to host, how to get games, how to be relevant in the community, and teaching them about war2 history and strategies forever. But let me get right on Demonstrating what i can do.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: {Lance} on July 16, 2015, 12:27:32 PM
Lol i'm x-DW-x)Yamon( for a reason, i've been gathering up all the noobs, teaching them how to host, how to get games, how to be relevant in the community, and teaching them about the history of war2 AKA: How I'm the greatest of all time and strategies forever. But let me get right on Demonstrating what i can do.

FIXED.  Although you really shouldnt be teaching anything regarding history since your ego gets in the way of actual historical facts.  Such as your dreamed up Lone rapes swift in a 2v1 let alone a 1v1 BS.  You could have at least made it believable and said it was a 2v1 with Jessu001 and Some unknown noob.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 16, 2015, 12:40:12 PM
Lone became pretty good, he can beat Swift at times
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Winchester on July 16, 2015, 05:06:06 PM
Didn't lone beat viruz like 5-3 one time?
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Nox on July 16, 2015, 05:17:52 PM
Real point to Help the game:

1- Change War2Ru for something new like, War2World, War2Planet, War2Heart, War2War or War2pornstar, anything, but stop letting know this is russian server.

2- Get rid of useless admin like Blid and Foonat if they are not planning to do something real, and way much more important get rid of the hacker like lightbringer-

3- Add new Admins like Tk, Tupac, Lance and Myself!

4- Put peoples at the right thing to do to save time and work.. IL, Tupac, Lance as programmar devlopper, moustopher as webmaster and forum master, Tk burnt and i as Taking cares of the game channel, tournament and website updates.

5- Stop doing your retard selfish and lazy admins.

Good luck!

Title: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 16, 2015, 05:20:45 PM
#3 yes, yes, definitely yes, and hell no.


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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Winchester on July 16, 2015, 06:51:23 PM
Cute little kittens, they're warm little mittens, cute little kittens, they're cute little mittens, cute little kittens wear warm little mittens and meow meow upside dowwwwn.
Title: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 16, 2015, 06:55:57 PM
Cute little kittens, they're warm little mittens, cute little kittens, they're cute little mittens, cute little kittens wear warm little mittens and meow meow upside dowwwwn.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 16, 2015, 07:05:54 PM
get more users online so I can start playing again
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: mousEtopher on July 16, 2015, 07:08:16 PM
Lol i'm x-DW-x)Yamon( for a reason, i've been gathering up all the noobs, teaching them how to host, how to get games, how to be relevant in the community, and teaching them about the history of war2 AKA: How I'm the greatest of all time and strategies forever. But let me get right on Demonstrating what i can do.

FIXED.  Although you really shouldnt be teaching anything regarding history since your ego gets in the way of actual historical facts.  Such as your dreamed up Lone rapes swift in a 2v1 let alone a 1v1 BS.  You could have at least made it believable and said it was a 2v1 with Jessu001 and Some unknown noob.


Does Alex play? I'll have to hit him up, I feel like he and I would be at comparable skill levels.

I think more streaming would help -- people'd see it on the home page when they visit, before they download, and maybe be more inclined to try multiplayer. The client gets tons of downloads, the problem is that most of the people only ever play single. A live feed of the main channel could be cool too, so they could see how friendly and awesome our community is in real time.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 16, 2015, 07:10:27 PM
A live feed of the main channel could be cool too, so they could see how friendly and awesome our community is in real time.
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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Marshmallow on July 16, 2015, 09:36:32 PM
An outside perspective from a player who has played pretty consistently over the past 3-4 months - I would say the most "helpful" players to the community would be {lance}, 00Joe and Burnt with {lance} being far and away the best of the bunch (in my humble opinion).  He joins most public games, not just the a/a x/x games with 4 watching a 2v2.  He will play with anyone and give pointers.  00Joe also helps, but has his moments where he gets fed up and let's it be known lolol.

Just my humble opinion on players who make it worth coming back for (a fresh perspective versus the same 10 whom I've noticed post back and forth against each other).  There are others who are great to play with - Casi0, Yamon, PBRMEASAP just to name a few others.

The server has a good core of constant players, but it is true that the "newbs" will get the boot quickly unless they chat and let it be known they suck and want to get better.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 11:24:44 AM
Lone became pretty good, he can beat Swift at times

Anyone decent can beat swift/viruz some of the time given the randomness/luck factor involved on a map like gow.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 11:26:45 AM
reaming would help -- people'd see it on the home page when they visit, before they download, and maybe be more inclined to try multiplayer. The client gets tons of downloads, the problem is that most of the people only ever play single.

and the small percentage that does end up coming online gets banned and kicked from every game and gives up.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 17, 2015, 01:09:28 PM
Anyone decent can beat swift/viruz some of the time given the randomness/luck factor involved on a map like gow.

ROFL

Said a random newb named " GanzTheLegend"



Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 01:11:30 PM
Anyone decent can beat swift/viruz some of the time given the randomness/luck factor involved on a map like gow.

ROFL

Said a random newb named " GanzTheLegend"
I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 17, 2015, 01:13:29 PM

Anyone decent can beat swift/viruz some of the time given the randomness/luck factor involved on a map like gow.


ROFL

Said a random newb named " GanzTheLegend"

I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 17, 2015, 01:15:29 PM
I think its quite funny when someone who has no experience in gow at all talks about great players like swift and viruz, and dare to say they could get owned by some casual player.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: {Lance} on July 17, 2015, 01:16:31 PM
I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.

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Honestly,  I'd never even heard of you until after you posted on the forums about your fake IGL rankings.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 17, 2015, 01:16:46 PM
I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.


Strange , never heard about you.

And posting pics of you being 1# in ladder using win bots back in the days wont make u look cool or good at anything rofl
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 01:17:46 PM
I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.

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Honestly,  I'd never even heard of you until after you posted on the forums about your fake IGL rankings.
You would know my pre-2000 name and my stats are 100 percent real.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 01:18:40 PM
I'm probably the most well known player in the history of war2.


Strange , never heard about you.

And posting pics of you being 1# in ladder using win bots back in the days wont make u look cool or good at anything rofl
I never heard of u either.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 17, 2015, 01:20:58 PM
I never heard of u either.

That's exactly what im saying.

You have no experience, and you know no one of the good players cause you don't have the level required to play with us.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: {Lance} on July 17, 2015, 01:21:39 PM
You would know my pre-2000 name and my stats are 100 percent real.

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What name did you play under then?  I'd probably recognize it.  You did mention that you remember playing with Iceburg,  so I have probably run into you before and likely even played with you :D
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
I never heard of u either.

That's exactly what im saying.

You have no experience, and you know no one of the good players cause you don't have the level required to play with us.


"US"? lol Whats your aka? If you were any good I would have heard of you. I have no experience??? ROFL I have 2nd most wins in Kali IGL history. I played with the best of the best when this game had 100x the playerbase of today.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 01:35:49 PM
You would know my pre-2000 name and my stats are 100 percent real.

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What name did you play under then?  I'd probably recognize it.  You did mention that you remember playing with Iceburg,  so I have probably run into you before and likely even played with you :D


Its a secret, only a small number of players know my old aka.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 17, 2015, 01:59:59 PM
"US"? lol Whats your aka? If you were any good I would have heard of you. I have no experience??? ROFL I have 2nd most wins in Kali IGL history. I played with the best of the best when this game had 100x the playerbase of today.

Then you should log in sometimes so i can give u a beatdown.
Who you were in Kali ,no one gives a fuck , your win ratio back in the days has no importance. Your name is not known , You are NOT relevant for this community.
And i've never seen anyone talking about you or namin your account. and thats the proof you are NO ONE.

Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 17, 2015, 02:02:36 PM
You would know my pre-2000 name and my stats are 100 percent real.

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What name did you play under then?  I'd probably recognize it.  You did mention that you remember playing with Iceburg,  so I have probably run into you before and likely even played with you :D


Its a secret, only a small number of players know my old aka.

Nobody knows it because you're making it up.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: tora is a simp bitch for billionaires on July 17, 2015, 02:20:21 PM
the only person who thinks ganz is good is ganz. you'd be hard pressed to find anyone else confirming his own claims about how good he is, or was. everyone who knows him , knows him as a ladder abusing newbie. when he did make a return to wc2 all he ever played was instant action.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 03:00:20 PM
"US"? lol Whats your aka? If you were any good I would have heard of you. I have no experience??? ROFL I have 2nd most wins in Kali IGL history. I played with the best of the best when this game had 100x the playerbase of today.

Then you should log in sometimes so i can give u a beatdown.
Who you were in Kali ,no one gives a fuck , your win ratio back in the days has no importance. Your name is not known , You are NOT relevant for this community.
And i've never seen anyone talking about you or namin your account. and thats the proof you are NO ONE.



Its because I stopped playing the game seriously shortly after bnet came  late99/early 2000. Since then I have probably only played like 300 gow games at most in those 15 years.  Obviously nobody will talk about you when you have been inactive for so long but all the old good players know my original aka and thats all that matters. I am a legend and was a top player in the game when it was at its peak. THe only player in the history of warcraft 2 to be #1 on every server.[/td][/tr][/table]
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 17, 2015, 03:07:01 PM
You don't have an "original aka."
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 03:09:20 PM
You don't have an "original aka."

If you only knew, my aka has been brought up countless times in the best players lists that were made.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 17, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
No it hasn't
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 03:12:43 PM
Your opinion is worthless since you've never been ranked above tier 6 on anyone's list.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 17, 2015, 03:13:59 PM
GaNz is probably thinking about claiming DethWlkr or something but is afraid to give out a specific name due to fear that someone will be able to prove he's lying
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Certified MENSA Genius Brain (smart) on July 17, 2015, 03:15:14 PM
You would know my pre-2000 name and my stats are 100 percent real.

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What name did you play under then?  I'd probably recognize it.  You did mention that you remember playing with Iceburg,  so I have probably run into you before and likely even played with you :D


Its a secret, only a small number of players know my old aka.

Not only do I not think you really have a well-known aka, I don't think there's any "small number of players" that know it.  That's also made up.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 17, 2015, 03:21:06 PM
GaNz is probably thinking about claiming DethWlkr or something but is afraid to give out a specific name due to fear that someone will be able to prove he's lying

LOL, no. Obviously not DethWlkr. I retired my name once bnet came out. I made this name as a smurf originally to talk shit and stuff and not give my original name a bad reputation. I can easily prove my original AKA if I needed to and have a few old players who know my original AKA that could vouch for me.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: {Lance} on July 17, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
No,  really,  I'm genuinely interested in knowing because I'd honestly never even heard of you until you went to the forums one day and started showing IGL stats or something like that.  I looked at it and was like huh?  Who the heck is this?  I've never even heard of that name before until now and now its all over the IGL nostalgia ladders (which I hadnt even looked at in years myself at that point).  Then I saw someone prove that you were ladder abusing so I just wrote it off as some nobody trying to act all cool.  Since the game reports are no longer available, it cant be "proven" anymore that you abused it,  but I do remember reading a thread about it and someone showed the game reports that proved it.  But if you say you have an original name,  I'd really be interested to know what it is,  I'm always interested in knowing who the people I played with are today.  Nothing against you at all, I'm just curious and not accusing of anything,  just merely stating facts as I've read them in the past thats all because I really have NO idea who you "were".
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Smokosz on July 17, 2015, 05:49:42 PM
Do not greet players who come back ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,1122.0.html[/url])) with a bunch of flames between Equinox and Ryu and Winchester, do not shit on them for posts they made 5 years ago.


The level of this forum is surely a one, big put-off. Given age of this game, you could expect the average player is grown up person but the impression from reading stuff around here is just the opposite and I wonder if any random forum about Minecraft (or whatever kids play these days) would contain so much dumb vulgarity, trolling and dirty flame wars. Because here it's about 99% of the whole content. If anybody comes here hesitant whether to (re)join the War2 community or pass on it, reading this garbage can of a forum will outweigh the scales easily. I know it by myself, having been around for many years, my current view is that there are only two remains of this game: occassional old ef hosted privately, with password, every hundred years on RU + bunch of bitter and awkward people passing their time on this filthy forum. 
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Marshmallow on July 17, 2015, 08:59:37 PM
I can't believe you guys still remember your aka's from bnet/kali days.  I played a lot in late 90s early 2000s while in college - i barely remember the name of the college I went to.  I've wracked my brain trying to remember my old names and even after 4 months of playing here I have no idea what they could be.  College was a big haze for me I suppose.
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: The Legend of StarTale on July 18, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
He is DieHard iirc... A true legend of this game. Ganz is the real deal. Everyone must bow.


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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: {Lance} on July 18, 2015, 12:09:21 PM
Right.  Diehard.  Ya let me get right on that one.  I only played with diehard EVERY day for like 7yrs straight (we were both in mg together).  Hes not Diehard lol
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 18, 2015, 02:05:54 PM
Its because I stopped playing the game seriously shortly after bnet came  late99/early 2000. Since then I have probably only played like 300 gow games at most in those 15 years.  Obviously nobody will talk about you when you have been inactive for so long but all the old good players know my original aka and thats all that matters. I am a legend and was a top player in the game when it was at its peak. THe only player in the history of warcraft 2 to be #1 on every server

You are making fun of youself.

A true legend never dies.
Actually the legend of "ganz" didnt even begin LOL

Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 18, 2015, 02:16:05 PM
Its because I stopped playing the game seriously shortly after bnet came  late99/early 2000. Since then I have probably only played like 300 gow games at most in those 15 years.  Obviously nobody will talk about you when you have been inactive for so long but all the old good players know my original aka and thats all that matters. I am a legend and was a top player in the game when it was at its peak. THe only player in the history of warcraft 2 to be #1 on every server

You are making fun of youself.

A true legend never dies.
Actually the legend of "ganz" didnt even begin LOL
Who said it's dead? I said I will return if the game becomes big again.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 18, 2015, 02:33:22 PM

Its because I stopped playing the game seriously shortly after bnet came  late99/early 2000. Since then I have probably only played like 300 gow games at most in those 15 years.  Obviously nobody will talk about you when you have been inactive for so long but all the old good players know my original aka and thats all that matters. I am a legend and was a top player in the game when it was at its peak. THe only player in the history of warcraft 2 to be #1 on every server

You are making fun of youself.

A true legend never dies.
Actually the legend of "ganz" didnt even begin LOL
Who said it's dead? I said I will return if the game becomes big again.

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 18, 2015, 03:03:24 PM
Who said it's dead? I said I will return if the game becomes big again.

In fact i never said ur legend died.
Your legend never began rofl

Learn to read newb
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: Smokosz on July 18, 2015, 04:53:40 PM


In fact i never said ur legend died.
Your legend never began rofl

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: [TD]Medivh on July 18, 2015, 06:09:33 PM
ROFL smokosz
Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: GaNzTheLegend on July 19, 2015, 11:49:41 AM
No speak italiano

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Title: Re: Helping the game
Post by: EviL~Ryu on July 19, 2015, 02:14:34 PM

No speak italiano

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