For all admins

[RagneR]

I want to tell you about an incident that happened to me recently. I will take a longer period of time in order to accurately feel the truth of what is said and not make any mistakes in the dates.

Over the past year and a half, I've been banned for 1-2 days four times, roughly that number. From least to most, it's definitely at least three times.
There are suggestions that Tora was doing this, since he was on the server at that moment.
I'm confused as to why this behavior is available, considering that the first few times I had admin rights.

They also took away my admin account, and it wasn't announced. There are speculations that Tora did this too. Moreover, they gave it back to me twice, but took it away three times. This is the final one; I'm not an admin now, and there's no reason for it.
As far as I understand, the first few times, Tora took away the rights.
I think he did it because he thought I was a cheater, but I don't use them and admitted to using them. Some administrator did it after I confessed.

To say which administrator it was, I'd have to confirm, but I don't have the ability to confirm. I'll just say it was some administrator and did it silently. Then came the final ban, which I thought would be long-term, but turned out to be only 1-2 days.
We also have an ARMilitar administrator in our community. He's not as active in the English-speaking community. He's supposedly actively involved in something, but he hasn't done anything significant recently. Recently, four people left the Russian-language chat group. I was one of the banned members. I'm not upset, but I'm not sure such a large split will affect the server.
I also noticed that I got a black screen, like with "remote access," after my discussion about the Warcraft 2 HotKeys program. I noticed that one antivirus program on VirusTotal shows it as a Trojan. I'm concerned about the attitude of some community members, specifically our administration, and the program's composition, which has become essential over time, as it's much more difficult to outplay a player with this program using classic HotKeys. Suggestions for solving the problem with the program include $500 or not using it. But what about the black screen I've been having recently, which I haven't told anyone about yet? It doesn't seem particularly suspicious, since I've been using it all along, and even if someone did hack my PC, they'd at least know everything about me and possibly us.

I want Tora to stop trying to ban us, and for ARMilitar to realize that he's not an emperor, but is driving the Russian-speaking community to ruin.

I'd also like to reiterate that ARMilitar hasn't banned anyone on the server yet, but banning actions should be unacceptable. He banned me and Extasey from the chat group. The same can't happen on the server.

I'll also add: Due to extremely long breaks from playing and my recent attitude toward the Hotkeys program, I won't lose anything from a ban, even if it's for a year or permanently. You should always know that I'm already old on this server; all the Grandmasters and Masters know me, the entire server knows me; not everyone who knows me is on this forum. This kind of behavior from the administrators is nothing more than a ban for fun. But by doing so, you're disrespecting the community, not me. No new player will invest their time in this place the way I did. I calculated my 3,489 days (9.5 years) on a date calculator. Given my gaming experience and the commitment I've put into this community, it's hard to understand why StarTate or Shotgun haven't been banned without a trace. I'm saying this because the admins' arbitrary actions could be applied to them as well, even though players with such experience shouldn't be banned.

I also want ARMilitar demoted for his actions in the Russian-speaking community, and that Mistral's role as an administrator is sufficient.

[RagneR]

Two players were banned from that group: myself and Extasey, and two other newcomers left on their own due to accusations and other things. It's probably karma. I also didn't particularly want to associate with Russians, since we're currently at war, but because of the ban I received, I decided to investigate it through the Russian administration, and it turns out no one wants to take any action regarding the information about my ban. I asked them to find out. So it's clear whether it was Tora or not. Okay, let's assume he was, but even then, no one is going to do anything about it. It turns out that one of the administrators is banning for fun, while the other is boosting his ego in the Russian-speaking community. Please do not ban Grand Masters and Masters with 10+ years of experience. You have no right to do that.
Similarly, Tora recently banned Angel Fire; he's been playing for 12 or 18 years, I think. You can't ban a player with that kind of experience. I unbanned him back when I had my license. Watch yourselves, but don't watch a server with just a few players. There's no one to watch. Trash talk is constant here. I don't do it because it hurts my karma, but I haven't taken action against StarTale for his foul tongue.

[RagneR]

Before you feel any sense of power in this community, you need to make sure you're not ruining it. Once it's gone, that feeling will disappear altogether. Removing admins after similar incidents is the best solution.

[RagneR]

If I get banned, nothing will happen. You'll lose a good, loyal player who doesn't trash-talk you, and you realize you're just like them, with the same experience. You'll find yourself in a similar situation, where there's no guarantee you won't be silently banned from your community without reason or explanation. These forum accounts, even if they're inappropriate, are theirs. Anything can be written from them. I hope personal boundaries aren't violated. And only the owners will post from these accounts. I don't really want to play with that kind of attitude. I just wanted to share a story. But the game I spent a lot of time playing is good. It's a shame the community has changed and tarnished everything.

[~Dopa~]

for russian comunity: Why I left? Cuz i dont want to be on toxical comunity with guys who hates me bcz i talk in the chat when i was obs THEN i just say sorry and anyways they dont do anything and BAN me in their games (when I`m obs). 2. Just dont want to be in RU comunity. For situation with admins: ya warcraftcombat46 detected as a virus (check it a long time ago) but no one talk about that. Startale and Shotgun? not the best players but they just hate all (all new players) we can't do more comunity if we have peoples like they (who can't play without shit-talking). How we can fix it? by the iL (i can talk with him about this problems if thats real (about RU comunity)) + check Warc2 files with checking programm code (i can do it and we see what is that). Ragner give your discord for we can talk about this

[Harrywangs]

I'm pretty sure Tora took your admin away. I thought he may have said it on the post when you admitted to cheating. While it showed integrity and I think some people respect you for it, in a sense, it also doesn't make it right. As a "leader" or person in charge of the server, it wouldn't be right for them not to take any action. Also, admins are basically useless anyways. Tora is the only one who does anything.

ST and SG (and a few others) are a problem. Most games without them are pretty tame with some smack talk or arguing about strats but not the type of insults they do. The whole dynamic changes when they play. There is a difference between bitching at someone and straight up being mean, personal, and never letting things go. At that point, everyone else starts to get at each other's throats. It creates a chain reaction, and everyone becomes part of it.

I can name a handful of people who don't play anymore due to this. Why play a game where you're just going to get constantly insulted all the time? That's not fun for people. I'm even getting to that point. I don't think there is much of a solution unless you want to ban some of the top players in the game. RU has never moderated things people say and I'm assuming it will remain that way. I'm not saying I'm for that either.

Not enough people use squelch tbh. I had SG squelched for like 8 months and it was great. Especially when we 2s because he's likely talking to me and I'm ignoring him, lol. The sad thing is that I don't believe they are mean people per se. I think the game brings it out of them, and they feed on others' reactions.

[~Dopa~]

ya harry server pretty slow xd. SG and ST very strange peoples who sometimes can talks normally and sometimes like a bullshit. Situation : i`ve play vs shotgun 1s battles (4 games) and play normally he said: you`re good player. Next day he just say me NEWB lol.
If we just start ignoring Shotgun and Startale maybe we can play better. I want to talk about AlexTrebek too. Why he can't play on his account? Alex can you write it here

[RagneR]

This isn't about Shotgun and Startale, but about bans. There are players here who genuinely deserve a ban for trash talk, and that wasn't Shotgun. It was just an example, to show that they, too, could be banned without reason. Because the administration is incompetent. Regarding security and Tora's actions—yes, removing the admin panel from a "dishonest player" is right, but I had a limited admin panel, since the only thing I could do was change stats and icons. It didn't allow me to do anything important. I couldn't change ladder data or restart the server. From the tools I also had bans and kicks with announcements (red messages), but I didn't allow myself to ban without reason.
Therefore, removing the admin panel made no sense, and I'm not upset. I don't understand why it wasn't announced from a normal perspective, but was simply done.
The reason was not given. I'm an honest player. And I spoke about my dishonest actions. Revoking administrator rights makes no sense. Doing it before would be understandable.
Regarding StarTale. This guy constantly trash-talks me for no reason; he's just angry with me. But I've never banned him, even though I've often wanted to, because I had the opportunity. I'm just wondering if our administration has the same patience. After all, our admins rarely log in to play the game and can't even handle situations like this. They're too rarely present.
The gist of it was that players are subject to bans without reason and simply for fun.

Dopa, you won't be able to resolve anything with Il. ARMilitar is taking all the brunt and pretending to be the king of the community. So it's unlikely Il will get anything until this administrator is demoted. Moreover, trash talk is allowed here, otherwise we'll have to ban half the server. So there's no solution to this.

Short bans for trash talk are appropriate, but the rules surrounding it haven't been finalized yet, so you can ignore them.
Regarding the Trojan in the HotKeys folder, I believe I had a black screen after reinstalling Windows. Of course, it could be because I configured PUBG through the Nvidia control panel, but it's not certain, since I don't remember if PUBG was on the computer at the time. Or maybe it was something else. But Warcraft was definitely on the computer. It doesn't bother me that I used it all the time, and even if there's a Trojan (trojan spy) or spyware in there, nothing can happen to me anymore, since it's always been that way. Nevertheless, having uninstalled Warcraft, I feel calmer. I want the administration to speak out on this matter and stop doing what they're doing for fun. Then maybe I'll return to Warcraft. For now, it’s enough for me that I’ve been playing for 9 and a half years and I’m not afraid of bans.

[~Dopa~]

Ragner can you get me your discord? (i want to talk with you about that)

[RagneR]

You need admin rights to take them from ARMilitar; only then can I talk to you.
I try to avoid contact with Russians. The only person I'm willing to talk to is Extasey, as he doesn't support the war. But his jokes might offend someone. So I don't always communicate with him. Maybe Simasik, a new Warcraft player who's still decent, but I don't have any contact with him. Anything we could discuss would lead nowhere. It's just a dialogue. Demoting ARMilitar—only the Russian-speaking administration, which is currently inactive, is capable of that. And they're generally not that honest, considering who gave me the spot program.

I gave you screenshot with my discord

[RagneR]

Screenshot 4 - "Play with the strongest players with 25 years of experience, the best"

Screenshot 5 - "Ask in the VK group
Ask your questions in our VK group or chat. You'll get answers to most of your questions about the game and more.
We have a very active Russian-speaking community."
VK is a social network. Russian.

In that group, they banned me and Extasey, and also forced two newbies to leave. One newbie and one relative newbie.

I'm just telling you how the Russian-speaking community treats
1. Olds
2. Newcomers

The top administration is handling this, but ARMilitary bears full responsibility for his actions. So even if we take away his admin rights, this won't stop. The community has deteriorated. Good luck to everyone who's played this game for 10+ years. ARMilitary condones the behavior of the top administration, tries to please them, and follows their actions. So, his punishment of demotion won't satisfy me. I need the entire administration to wake up and realize what they're doing. They shouldn't ban players, they just maintain the server. That's all. Nothing more.

[~Dopa~]

i send you friend request (Fostam_ nickname)

[~Dopa~]

discord for sure

[~ToRa~]

I read Ragner’s first post and skipped the others as they were very long.

I received multiple PM’s from players complaining they didn’t want Ragner being an admin after he posted about cheating. After talking to IL and Misreal we decided to remove his admin rights as he wasn’t actually doing anything admin related on the server.

I do not “ban” people from the server. The last person to receive an actual ban was Alex Trebek which was later removed after he posted on the forum apologizing and requesting it be lifted.
While there are instances I have locked players accounts temporarily nobody has been prevented from playing on the server in the past 5 years even if they are thought to be cheating.

[~ToRa~]

As far as the Russian community goes I can’t speak much to as the Russians are a sub set of the war2 community that I don’t manage.