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Server.War2.ru / Re: lol what is this??
« on: March 01, 2018, 11:43:03 AM »
Thats fucking hysterical, lord knows there was tons of rich material in there. Mackman, Ghostnuke & Bizatch can act as a cautionary tale to the youth in a college course some day lol… How the hell did you even find this?  I think Axo’s forum was down by this point, wonder if she saved a back up of the old forum posts that are lost.


ABSTRACT
Chapter 8
Gaming before E-Sports: Playing with Gender in Early Gaming Communities, 1993-2001
Marley-Vincent Lindsey
Brown University, USA
Discussions of competitive gaming often begin and end with the development of professional E-Sports. However, competitive gaming has a history that stretches back to the rst days of networked play with rst generation games like Doom, Warcraft II and Multi-User Dungeons (Henceforth MUDs). Within these games, digital communities became a prominent means of discourse and discussion, heavily reliant on gender as a habit of thought to describe inequality and disparities between players. Using an archive of Warcraft II histories, and forum threads for the game, this chapter describes a social history of this digital community with speci c emphasis on the ways that gender was used.
INTRODUCTION
February 9, 2001 was an infamous day for a popular Warcraft II Forum called the Warcraft Occult. ~Summoner, a notorious trash-talker on the forum, was caught hacking in a game of Warcraft II1. The game was saved, and then posted on the forum for all other posters to view and download on a thread entitled “SUMMONER IS CAUGHT HACKING” with a description:
Ender-Wiggin: A dear friend sent me a save game in which it shows Summoner with 3 weapon upgrades, and 1 shield upgrade. Thanks to DK’s wonderful program, we should have one less hacker in the “community” (Ender-Wiggin, 2000, [msg 1]). 2
Response was fast and furious: in a forum where most threads only garnered three or four responses, this initial thread had four pages in response, filled with anger, frustration, and even threats of physical violence. Over the course of the next week, numerous other threads were created to gleefully discuss the
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Gaming before E-Sports
allegations against ~Summoner, many of which took similar tones. Posts on the initial thread included the following:
sfg: in the names summoner posted as hackers they all do hahah and i know u hacked every single game and not once in a while so stfu fag but u suck anyway so it doesn’t matter. (Ender-Wiggin, 2000 [msg 39])
PCSPEAKER: [to another poster in the thread] Get a fucking clue you fucking scrub. Justify the rest of your heterosexual allegations before trying to impress with the horseshit you think is insight. (Ender-Wiggin, 2000, [msg 76])
SloBz: You faggots who accused paper/cinder/myst/nail are moronic. None of them hack. They love the game and wouldn’t cheapen it with Summoner’s B.S. and Summoner ur posts are fucking stupid. (Ender-Wiggin, 2000, [msg 94])
7VIesSiah: I can’t beleive Summoner (aka GenMike, JenMike, GayMike, there are a lot of names for this fag) is still playing this game. It isn’t surprising that he cheats. This guy has always sucked. (Ender-Wiggin, 2000, [msg 97])
Ash-: Our conflict ends here. I was right about you hacking, and all your bullshit now sees the light. I am the better player and the better man. In the end I will always be the better man. Thank you for the satisfaction of victory. (Ender-Wiggin, 2001, [msg 41])
Ash-: [responding to someone asking Summoner if he will attend an offline event, as people could try to hurt him after this] I won’t hesitate to deal out punishment as is necessary. Don’t worry though sum; you will survive. (Ender-Wiggin, 2001, [msg 48])
The following was posted on another a thread started by ~summoner, entitled “get a life please”:
Ash-: WS and SLAM [two other players accused of hacking] used to be pretty good on kali. When they came back to war2 on bnet, they got raped. They got raped all the time that I played on bnet. (~summoner, 2001, [msg 5])
Another thread entitled “SUMMONER IS FUCKING GAY” contained this description:
cancer: POST HERE ABOUT HOW GAY SUMMONER IS. P.S. SUM UR A FUCKING FAG.. HACK- ING PIECE OF SHIT. (cancer, 2001, [msg 1])
One of the most common themes in these threads is also one of the most confusing: What about be- ing a good or honest video game player necessitates a discourse that invokes gender, sexual orientation, and physical violence? Meta-level discussions of trash talking on the same forum, within the same time period yield unsatisfactory answers, such as this post from a thread entitled “Trash talking”:
korpo: It’s only fair to say that no one is the greatest trash talker of all time. There are so many people who talk trash (including myself), that they cannot be counted on a calculator. It only adds flavor to the game and it’s pretty cool after you talk trash, and then you rape them fairly hard. You get the satisfaction of feeling “I told you so.” (reaverlisk, 2000, [msg 2])


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LOL Summoner and Valk catches were prolly the biggest bomb shells of war2 history even more than swift getting caught red handed. Predating this exchange there was lots of tension built up in the kith kannin thread where they faced off in a series where his lvl 5 rush tied him to lust and used a flier to cover his tracks.

I hope they brought up the part where Summoner faked his own death in a car wreck before the War2 Summit of Seattle and made Ash wait for hours at the airport to pick him up. The shame was too much for either of them to face, even to this day Valk won’t acknowledge his hacking. Makes u wonder how Swift looks in the mirror every morning. =) JK
(Unrelated note, Kanuks told me to this day he still feels Slighted by that Tourney win Valk stole from him in the Finals in his hacking prime> Perhaps the War2 High COuncil should look into vacating that victory and awarding it to Kanuks who was dominating him all game, but Valk kept making PERFECT counter moves.)


Other notable threads would be Shazm going insane and threatening to kill everyone or rob a bank to support his war2 habbit.

Jayhawkerz stalking Nalzymans X gf
 Mackman explaining how all homo sexual are pedofiles or some shit.
Bizatch deleting his ram^

Ywfn take some pictures of the full version and post them!!
OR share any notable threads or quotes u may stumble upon =)

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Server.War2.ru / Re: new ladder/classic map
« on: February 15, 2018, 04:17:00 AM »
Plots.pud would be a nice addition (already in war2 map directory).. Mini Gow by Wyze would also be a fun addition.
Even Continent to explore would work

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General Discussion / Re: ~ THE LAST JEDI ~
« on: February 11, 2018, 12:05:53 AM »
Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine struggling to stay awake during a Star Wars film. It was an abomination and the writer needs to be put on trial for A Hate Crime against Humanity. A movies primary purpose is to entertain which it failed to do on a myriad of levels. They were overly concerned about espousing politically correct nonsense and destroying the entire Jedi mythology.  They turned Bad Ass Skywalker into an EMO mopey beta male and the female lead who didn’t wear any sexy outfits whatsoever and for some reason talks with a British accent. Insert random stuttering lisp, QUICK cut to the next minority to we fill our quota, Lets throw in a rant on income inequality, profiteering and how everyone is special… They made the main character essentially a super hero that doesn’t have to train or try for that matter and happens to be more powerful than Professor X. Kylo was basically a diatribe against “toxic male masculinity” making him a winey bitch who is hardly an imposing villain. All that build up for Snoke to uncermoniously kill him in the least spectacular fashion possible, hardly any cool light sabre battles…

  If Disney had any self respect
they would redo the movie because no true fan will ever consider it CANNON.. Just like the movie version of
Harry Potter - The Order of the Phoenix

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Thoughts of give up this game
« on: February 10, 2018, 11:13:16 PM »
This game is a timeless classic like Chess and no 2 games ever feel the same( at least the way I play). It’s an incredible waste of time though and its becoming increasingly harder to get a high level game. I’ve met some interesting, creative intelligent & eccentric people over the years but logging on to war2 is also like strolling into a dive bar, chalk full of weirdos, lunatics, douche bags and people you might never meet otherwise, it’s been interesting to say the least.  I’ve had great times playing over the years but it’s definitely reached beyond the point of diminishing return. War2 Can be a fun creative outlet but video game addiction can definitely affect your life if you’re not careful. I may log on once or twice a year but at this point there are other hobbies and real life shit becomes too real to ignore. Was fun while it lasted
Zug Zug 4 life!

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Not all leaders have to be Anointed by HOUSE IL-Stark BARATHEON 1st of his name. You can take on a leadership role and advertise new blood into the community! At this point U need to find out whats popular among Chinese and Koreans then advertise!! It’s sad we’ve only had 5 players from Asia over the years. I read about 1 nearly dying the other day for spending over 18 hours straight in an internet Cafe and could no longer move his legs. Even as paramedics dragged him away, he begged his friends to help finish his characters quest LOL… Exactly the type of people we need to save this gamE!! haha


Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the World of Warcraft,
    The bloodLusted-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction (Burnt), while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity(Van).
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Gul’Dan
    Troubles my sight: a wasteland of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man named Sepi,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds of Kilrog.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Surely some MACCINATION is at hand?

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Server.War2.ru / Re: It's all FUCKED
« on: February 10, 2018, 10:18:13 PM »
haha Why do all assassins read catcher in the Rye? I saw that in a Mel Gibson movie
Sepi if u had to assassinate 1 politician who would it be? You're in a safe space here!
What do u think about Anders Behring Breivik getting out of Jail in 2033 for killing 77 people?

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Swift thinks hes better than u8
« on: February 10, 2018, 10:05:29 PM »
Lol i've seen many series with Swift n Shotty, they've played extensively over the years. Not always but, Shotty would usually win the series even if just by a slim margin. Most top players over the years stop feeling the incessant need to prove themselves. Different players dominated different eras which usually correlated to how active and motivated they were. The premise of this entire poll is silly. Swift has demonstrated superior mechanics and a strategic mind IN FFA’s, Fastest, close games where its 3on1 or 4on1 vs his dual, occasional creative gays and inventive ways to win. He’s improved his team play and always does a solid job in 1’s…. Szwagier is good n solid but there haven’t been any moments where I was like “Damn I never seen this shit b4 or that was impressive”… The guy duels braviet all day  on spiral Med or or some weird shit I dunno and he’s never stood out much in team play… Not saying he doesn’t have that potential but war2 is so dead and he doesn’t seem inclined to push himself in other areas and try new things, RUSH LUST POWER 4 LIFE.  There are other modern players more impressive that would have done well in other eras like Steve, 00TONY and Lone who was 1 of the fastest learners i’ve seen. Swift has nothing to prove, every1 knows how this would end if he was active & motivated.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Dead squares
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:10:40 PM »
If you can't replicate the dead square phenomenon, it's doubtful you fully understand it. Would it be possible to
farm in an entire expansion like 4 with dead squares??? =O


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Server.War2.ru / Re: War2TV - Live Warcraft 2 Streams on Twitch.tv !!!
« on: February 05, 2018, 03:16:38 AM »
Nice instructions, finally got it working but its hella choppy. What setting should I change to fix that?
Username: Vprime212

https://www.twitch.tv/vprime212     i think

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Server.War2.ru / Re: My Warcraft 2 Story
« on: January 24, 2018, 11:24:34 PM »
Sug min kuk!! You left out Slayer~
Genocide really died? What happened?
This game was fun over the years but i was probably a tad too competitive sometimes, I could
have been nicer to him at times.

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Unable to log in?
« on: January 04, 2018, 06:26:58 AM »
totally off topic but is this intel security flaw a real thing? Says the patch will slow down our comps up to 30% =I


Is it really worth patching if you don't use ne crazy programs?????

I feel like a class action law suit is in order. 3 semi new computers will soon run slower, sooo gay

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"the WHO base that belief off of science you stupid shit."

Making a scientist say something as he pines for a grant doesn't qualify as science being as there is 0 evidence to support your
hysterical claim.

Lol you’re clearly confusing gender with gender identity.  XX and XY chromosomes
is what determines gender not how you feel or choose to self identify.
There are genetic abnormalities that can cause hormonal and developmental
defficiencies that can be contributing factors to certain people sharing commonalities
with the opposite gender, but this can’t change the sex they were born with. Maybe
these are how the changes began that allowed fish and plants to change sex, but
at this stage you’re just espousing nonsense with no basis in scientific fact. Like liberalism
its a mental health order that afflicts many of these people and its horrific parents are
allowing their children to “choose” their gender at a young age.

I also would prefer you address me with the gender neutral pronoun and not assume my Gender.
You can call me ZE, ZIR or NON BINARY THNX^^

Nonsense101

Boy Or Girl? - YouTube

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The same WHO also belives gender is a social construct, that isn’t solely determined by genetics lol. This has been
an accepted norm in Asia for years where they hold video game rehab centers and boot camps. While I agree it can
be a valid addiction, the mental condition stigma is more about enforcing a political agenda. When you classify someone
with a mental defect they can be targeted under the mental hygiene laws to get around the 2nd amendment, also makes them
eligible to collect government assistance in some cases, hardly a good way to break someone of an addiction by enabling them.
It reminds me of this guy I know, he is allowed to go on drinking benders and not show up for work for days at a time, his job can’t
fire him because alcoholism is protected as a disability. I think it’s great to address any overlooked malady and how pronounced
 the compounded neglect has become with in our society. However, sometimes it feels like in our haste to categorize and diagnose everything,
it becomes easy to overlook the root cause. When people try to quit 1 addiction, another vice usually emerges to take its place, shopping,
binge watching shows, weed, drinking, sex all sorts  of addictions we turn to during that withdrawal phase. The key seems to be
breaking habitual reward cycle while cultivating new habbits which is easier said than done. Many times people don’t even
realize how adversely an addiction has affected their life. This is a fun game no doubt, but I cringe thinking how much time i’ve wasted
 on here over the years. I'm sure Braviet's parents are so proud he's dedicated his life to become a war2 player with over 50k games invested.
He might be the last Virgin amongst the group

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Server.War2.ru / Re: Time for new comp.. Suggestions please
« on: November 18, 2017, 08:31:52 AM »
I sometimes run war2 on Vmware on my mac, its fine for watching games but not as responsive if you're looking for competitive play.
Xp and win 7 seem the best for running war2!  Burnt you should do a Dual boot hackintosh!! It's nice not having to worry about
viruses on the Macintosh side

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Would be nice to see 2on2 teams automatically logged under team ladder!! Then, you could designate who belongs to your clan on your team page featuring your icon & team logo whatever. Would be cool to see who the best 2on2 team is & overall team rankings as a group


These tiny changes people are asking for are nice, but war2 feels more than adequate with out them. Are biggest problem is lack of exposure makes it hard to get games during non peak hours. A fKey macro that streams twitch or makes it faster to convert war2vids to youtube might help.


Googles deep mind and Blizzard are working together using machine learning AI to try to beat the worlds best sc2 players… I feel like war2 is far more intricate with complexities that dwarf their current project. They’ve conquered GO but I doubt a computer could ever beat  Swift!  I would like to see Burnt beg or steal Blizzard for some machine learning API’s iL can use to develop war2 AI!!!!  Newbs could play the computer version of swift to learn =)


Realistically tho, for any real drastic changes we would have to pay for someone to reverse engineer war2. Then instead of issuing kinda functional patches we could build off a solid foundation! War2 with updated graphics, no conflict, more responsive, 3rd race, slight game balancing so every spell and unit is relevant. When is the last time u won a game with Exoricism, healing, skeletons or berserkers?  Maybe Jordan4358 can assist in the effort. I can get Terra to flash her tits for payment.. Might at least be worth getting a quote from a reverse engineer!

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