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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: [TD]Medivh on September 07, 2023, 08:34:18 AM

Title: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 07, 2023, 08:34:18 AM
I am having lot of problems playing lately , i can barely join a game , and if im allowed to join i can only handle 2 players , if theres a single watcher i drop off...
the connection is the same i had for 5 years nothing changed , i installed HD version and all problems started , i uninstalled and reinstalled thousands of times and still not works, tried also with normal version 46 , with and without hole punch , also with and without VPN, also tried with mobile hotspot connection and the situation is always the same , i did reset my router , i updated my comp and did everything its required , still not workin , if you're not gonna solve the problem i'm gonna say goodbye
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Mistral on September 07, 2023, 08:38:29 AM
did you tried from different comp?
just to be sure if this is your comp problem or something else
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 07, 2023, 08:49:12 AM
i dont have another comp at the moment
but i dont think its my comp tho
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Mistral on September 07, 2023, 08:52:06 AM
maybe ask someone to help use their comp for 30 min or something
and check if it will have lags too
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Mistral on September 07, 2023, 08:52:54 AM
when exactly lags started
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Rareskills on September 07, 2023, 01:01:37 PM
Always playing w same people? Could be conflict
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Rareskills on September 07, 2023, 01:04:43 PM
Another thing, I know theboy had this problem,  leaving same gay porn site open. Maybe try diff ones to see if they all lag or just one
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Dudakurten on September 07, 2023, 01:26:18 PM
Not easy to find somebody else computer to download game and test :)

There is no config/patch to fix it? I know is not simple
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 02:09:52 PM
I should try to get a comp from a friend and try with it,
i had bit lag issue few months ago where i couldnt host and join lobbies with more than 2 players, but it solved itself , maybe after a server refresh? idk
i had little bit lag few days before downloading and installing HD version
Now its the same both HD and normal .exe , so idk really what changed
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
I attached test program you can use to check if the problem is your internet connection. click on Get, wait a moment and then copy/paste the "NET Type" in here so I can check. Or even better, post a screenshot of the result here

*Edit* File removed, check next post for new download link
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 04:30:52 PM
seems it doesnt work
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 04:44:37 PM
never mind , here it attached...
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 04:57:03 PM
"Symmetric" is the worst possible result. It means that either your router is the issue or your internet provider.

With "Symmetric" you will only be able to join games, and only if the host has the port forwarded. Hole punch does not work with "Symmetric" either. You will probably only be able to play 2 player games (unless all players in the game room have the port forwarded, then it would work with more than 2 players too)


If you didn't change your router then the problem is probably your internet provider, they may have changed something and now you don't have a private ip4 address anymore.


Anyways, you can work around the problem with a VPN. This one used to work here, but i'm not sure if it still does: https://hide.me/en/free-vpn (https://hide.me/en/free-vpn)

Install the VPN and then run the test program again, it should show a different result then. If it doesn't work, try a different VPN, this one here used to work too some time ago: https://www.hotspotshield.com/de/kostenlose-vpn/ (https://www.hotspotshield.com/de/kostenlose-vpn/)


And make sure you also got the hole punch patch installed, you will need it to avoid conflicts

Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 05:07:52 PM
Just tried it with hide.me, but it seems like the test server blocked the VPN. I attached a updated tool, you have to redownload and use this one to test with VPN.

Make sure you never run the test tool and the game at the same time, both use the same port and are interfering with each other.

Download: https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/Warcraft-II-Port-Test/releases/latest/download/Warcraft.II.Port.Test.exe

Here's how it looks like if it's working (PortRestrictedCone):

(https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7006.0;attach=4461)
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 05:18:24 PM
i usually use Hide.me
im trying to use a different vpn
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 05:20:48 PM
i usually use Hide.me
im trying to use a different vpn
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hide.me works fine now with the updated tool, just tested it! The old tool i posted first gave me the same error message you had as well.

What happens now with hide.me and the new tool? Error? Or Symmetric? Show a screenshot please with hide.me active
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 05:23:06 PM
i run hotspot shield vpn , and run Warcraft II port test, here's the result
still Symmetric
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 05:23:42 PM
heres the result with hide.me , weird , it didnt work earlier
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 05:27:16 PM
yes, that looks good! You can play now without issues (but make sure you got the hole punch patch installed!)
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 05:28:35 PM
can't join anyways...
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 05:36:27 PM
Does it work without HD patch? If that's the case then it's probably just a firewall issue. HD patch is using a different .exe, so that means you'll need to allow it in your firewall again


Also, make sure you never run the test tool and the game at the same time, both use the same port and are interfering with each other.
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 08, 2023, 06:28:10 PM
already allowed
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 08, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
About the test we did in-game:

I can see that you're connected through hide.me (netherlands server), so that part is working fine. However your connection is still "Symmetric" and that's why it doesn't work.


Now I'm wondering, did you always had to use hide.me? It looks to me like there's a problem with their setup, they may have done some changes that is causing the conflicts now. Maybe we'll have to try a few other VPN's and find one that doesn't have the "Symmetric" Net Type.

I updated the tool again (added some more logging in case of "Symmetric" Net Type)

https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/Warcraft-II-Port-Test/releases/latest/download/Warcraft.II.Port.Test.exe


EDIT:

I'm also getting "Symmetric" now with hide.me enabled. So it's confirmed, hide.me VPN can't be used with War2 anymore.

(https://forum.war2.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7006.0;attach=4471)
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 10, 2023, 02:24:59 PM
i installed ExpressVPN , thats what i get now
lets see if i can join or host...
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 10, 2023, 03:03:41 PM
Download Port Test: https://github.com/FunkyFr3sh/Warcraft-II-Port-Test/releases/latest/download/Warcraft.II.Port.Test.exe

Here are all possible test results (will make it easier to test without my help):

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Good

FullCone - Best result

OpenInternet - Best result

SymmetricUdpFirewall - Good result (Requires hole punch patch)

RestrictedCone - Good result (Requires hole punch patch)

PortRestrictedCone - Good result (Requires hole punch patch)

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Bad

UdpBlocked = All connections were blocked, the test failed (Usually happens if blocked by firewall or your ISP/VPN blocked the test port)

Symmetric = Worst possible test result, will cause a lot of conflicts/lag (You can only play with those that forwarded the port, so mostly 2 player games only)

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Free VPN's that DO NOT work with warcraft 2

ProtonVPN

Hotspot Shield

hide.me (Does work, but only if you pay - "unlimited free" version will lag/conflict)
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 10, 2023, 03:47:55 PM
I can join now , i think i solved it up !
thanks fois :)
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on September 10, 2023, 04:38:20 PM
I can join now , i think i solved it up !
thanks fois :)

Nice, so you're using ExpressVPN now?


BTW, we just tested it with some guys on discord and hide.me works if you got the premium plan, but it does not work if you got the unlimited free plan anymore. So if you want to keep using hide.me, you'll have to pay for it now.
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Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: [TD]Medivh on September 11, 2023, 05:42:50 PM
Yeah expressVPN atm
ahhh yeah i was using unlimited free plan with hide.me
maybe its cheaper ill check it out , thank you again fois !!!
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: chayliss on October 24, 2023, 07:27:05 PM
same problem, for me we changed ports byway of regedit
this dude fois is a champ
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Stasi[WP] on November 11, 2023, 05:27:08 AM
Hello, Im new here and trying to get this game working. I need help with lag issues. I ran the software Fois gave here earlier and I get symmetric even I just installed expressVPN and I have new version of the game. My internet sucks overal (15-30mbps) but is it enough for war2 and does it affect on the text that Fois test gives?
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: fois on November 17, 2023, 08:51:25 PM
Hello, Im new here and trying to get this game working. I need help with lag issues. I ran the software Fois gave here earlier and I get symmetric even I just installed expressVPN and I have new version of the game. My internet sucks overal (15-30mbps) but is it enough for war2 and does it affect on the text that Fois test gives?

As long as you get the "symmetric" result it will not work, you'll have to try some other VPN's until you found one that's working.
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: Stasi[WP] on November 21, 2023, 02:43:25 AM
Got Full cone now as I changed my internet provider without any vpn. Still gives me all red bars in chat. Dunno does it mean anything or not. Speedtest gives me 100-400mbs.
Title: Re: Lag problem
Post by: 8)MikulZ(8 on November 21, 2023, 11:02:01 AM
I don't think the red bars in chat mean anything, I have seen it many times on others and maybe myself too, and it hasn't affected anything as far as I know.