Warcraft II Forum
Wasteland => Flame Wars & Offtopic => Topic started by: Cel on November 16, 2020, 06:19:31 AM
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Here is how they handle forums on heroes of the storm and Starcraft2. Care to give these rules a try? Since you seem to adore these games soo much :ok_hand: :newthumbsup:
https://eu.battle.net/support/en/article/000256989
Oh and BTW these rules apply to each and every single member, no special treatment no exceptions this includes Admins and VIPS. Good thing to note for sure...
Since these games are obviously so great how about we use the same rules overhere and oh How about we respect what cathegories are for too that would be great!
Oh and hey have a look at what I just found in there:
Distribution of Real-Life Personal Information
This category includes:
Releasing any real-life information about other players or Blizzard Entertainment employees
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be permanently banned from the forums
Ouch I guess some people really are lucky this forum is not HOTS forum because I am pretty sure they would be long gone by now! :rofl:
Oh this is not all look at this gem for example:
Harassing or Defamatory
This category includes both clear and masked language and/or links to websites containing such language or images which:
Insultingly refer to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
Result in ongoing harassment to other characters, players, Blizzard employees, or groups of people
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be given a temporary ban from the forums, depending upon severity
Harassment takes many forms, and is not necessarily limited to the type of language used, but the intent. Repeatedly targeting a specific player with harassment can lead to more severe action. The idea behind this is to prevent any one player from consistently being uncomfortable in the forums.
*Cough* "Muslim!" *cough*, rings any bell to anyone?
Or this LOL:
Spamming or Trolling
This category includes:
Excessively communicating the same phrase, similar phrases, or pure gibberish
Creating threads for the sole purpose of causing unrest on the forums
Causing disturbances in forum threads, such as picking fights, making off topic posts that ruin the thread, insulting other posters
Making non-constructive posts
Abusing the Reported Post feature by sending false alarms or nonsensical messages
Numbering a thread, IBTL, TLDR, or any other fad statements
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be given a temporary or permanent ban from the forums, depending upon severity
Creating Duplicate Threads
This category includes:
Creating threads about existing topics
Creating a separate thread about an existing topic for further discussion in more than one forum
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be given a temporary ban from the forums, depending upon severity
Freedom of speech does not mean absence of moderation in a discussion. Quite the opposite actually otherwise its the jungle the louder voices have all the attention all the time and it is impossible for everyone's voice to be heard. Having categories that we respect on the forum and enforcing them helps freedom of speech and making sure there is a proper place for each topic.
That said I would support adopting most of these rules for the forums while keeping some categories off rules like Flamewar/offtopic so that our most racist and Homophobic or politically engaged creeps can keep posting all of their wonderful theories there. Since apparently for some of us "This is war2" and getting rid of it is "killing war2" but at the same time they want to move to USA when they get banned here... How ironic...
Oh and I think things are going to move much much more quickly now, thanks to all that shinanegan that happened over the last few years All the people of the russian community are going to have a look at how things are run here and start getting more involved and help manage this horrible place and make it one.
Finally we may have a freaking normal place that feels welcoming for everyone not just a handfull of loud voices...
There is hope :newthumbsup: :wc2:
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There you go again egging on equinox
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Nah, recent events just underline the fact that this point probably needs to be addressed.
There is an undeniable benefit to having clear rules and guidelines like any serious other forum has.
Right now, admins actions reflect their common sense but they have no detailled ruleset to justify their actions.
This means when a punishment or direct action is taken from an admin it is taken like a personal attack, and this is bad.
A ruleset both helps admins justify their action and also prevent admins abusing their powers since there is a more defined guideline to follow.
The fact that I mention these recent example is just to show how very defined in other places these cases are described and handled.
And how if we had a proper ruleset for the forums very probably people would not be so mad about them and would not take these occasional interactions personally like they do right now.
In short: Rules make moderation non-personal and less prone to generate outrage.
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War2 forums since the beginning of time have been like this and it isn't about to change now because some hotshot wannabee admin wants it to. These forums are a place for people to come and show their characters whether you like those characters or not. I think of it as wrestling, where you have your heels and baby faces. Like them or hate them they are here to entertain. This isn't some PRO league like sc2 where things are taken super seriously. Chill out dude
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There you go again egging on equinox
He forgot to say on Heroes of the storm and starcraft II there nobody whos hacks the mpq and there no members with favor threatments hahaha
Cheating
You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.
Exploiting other players is an equally serious offense. Scamming, account sharing, win-trading, and anything else that may degrade the gaming experience for other players will receive harsh penalties.
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If we where on Heroes of the storm or starcraft II U8 and all those hackers would be ban way before i harasse them :salty: :sob: :sob: :sob:
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You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity] that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating[/size].
Okay. Do not use programs such as: Warvid, Insight, Observer, War2config ...
They all work with game resources, bro :)
And also do not use OBSstudio for prevention.
And also throw out all plugins and switch to DOS's War2.
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You are responsible for how you and your account are represented in the game world. Cheating in any fashion will result in immediate action. Using third-party programs to automate any facet of the game, exploiting bugs, or engaging in any activity] that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating[/size].
Okay. Do not use programs such as: Warvid, Insight, Observer, War2config ...
They all work with game resources, bro :)
And also do not use OBSstudio for prevention.
And also throw out all plugins and switch to DOS's War2.
Those software are not an unfair advantage, those add on have been release for the entire community on the official war2ru website..
An unfair advantage is about making his own colors and his own customize hotkeys for his personal purpose like u8 and many more hackers programmars did.
And those 2 hacks are just the tip of the iceber, we know there way much more.
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U8 and all those hackers would be ban way
Tell me, do you need to improve the game? I thought you were in favor of balancing the races and bringing in a lot of playability.
So, bro, all this cannot be achieved without "hacking" mpk files. It's impossible.
In general, advice: go to your Starcraft 2, there probably are no hackers (no) =)
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An unfair advantage is about making his own colors and his own customize hotkeys for his personal purpose like u8 and many more hackers programmars did.
How can creating your own colors help your opponent beat you?)
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U8 and all those hackers would be ban way
Tell me, do you need to improve the game? I thought you were in favor of balancing the races and bringing in a lot of playability.
So, bro, all this cannot be achieved without "hacking" mpk files. It's impossible.
In general, advice: go to your Starcraft 2, there probably are no hackers (no) =)
Improving the game is not about cheating the game, you dont need to cheat peoples for years to improve the game.
I told you how to improve the game fairly like every other games in the world.
You made a back up server, use the back up server as a beta server, work ur add on there between programmars, you can even also invite players to test them and give there opinion, when the add-on in question is ready, release the add-on a future patch of the official server where everyones will be able to have it.
Making eiditation in the MPQ and cheating the peoples with it on the official server, is not helping the community it's hacking them.
Period.
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An unfair advantage is about making his own colors and his own customize hotkeys for his personal purpose like u8 and many more hackers programmars did.
How can creating your own colors help your opponent beat you?)
First color to have been edited was BLACK to pink, the reason for that editation was the fact that black color and the fog in mini map was pretty similar and alot of players cant see ennemie units on the mini map.
I guess it's a advantage. :salty:
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He dont understnad that combat is illegal :D
I have played many game online warcraft 3, starcraft, dota 2 and never get caught of hacking
play more, maybe someday you will beat twn-cancel :poo: :rofl:
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He dont understnad that combat is illegal :D
I have played many game online warcraft 3, starcraft, dota 2 and never get caught of hacking
play more, maybe someday you will beat twn-cancel :poo: :rofl:
Well did he just admit that he have hacks other game too? wow what a genius :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob:
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Improving the game is not about cheating the game, you dont need to cheat peoples for years to improve the game.
I told you how to improve the game fairly like every other games in the world.
You made a back up server, use the back up server as a beta server, work ur add on there between programmars, you can even also invite players to test them and give there opinion, then when the add on in question is ready, release the add on on future patch of the official server will everyone will be able to have it.
Making eiditation in the MPQ and cheating the peoples with it on the official server, is not helping the community it's hacking them.
Period.
What's the difference where to test some updates if you still throw mud at everyone and call them hackers?
ANY development affects in one way or another the files-mpk. Without them, nowhere.
You can't do anything without them. Maybe I'll tell you a revolutionary thing, but plugins also affect mpk files in one way or another)
Delete this game and leave, since you distrust our developers so much.
And I walked with them, drank Tan, and I'm ready to go on reconnaissance together.
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Improving the game is not about cheating the game, you dont need to cheat peoples for years to improve the game.
I told you how to improve the game fairly like every other games in the world.
You made a back up server, use the back up server as a beta server, work ur add on there between programmars, you can even also invite players to test them and give there opinion, then when the add on in question is ready, release the add on on future patch of the official server will everyone will be able to have it.
Making eiditation in the MPQ and cheating the peoples with it on the official server, is not helping the community it's hacking them.
Period.
What's the difference where to test some updates if you still throw mud at everyone and call them hackers?
ANY development affects in one way or another the files-mpk. Without them, nowhere.
You can't do anything without them. Maybe I'll tell you a revolutionary thing, but plugins also affect mpk files in one way or another)
Delete this game and leave, since you distrust our developers so much.
And I walked with them, drank Tan, and I'm ready to go on reconnaissance together.
Once an add-on or a modification is introduce into a new patch of the official server, it's not a hack anymore but an updates of the game itself for the entire community.
God it's look like i speak with a 9 years old children who just dont wanna understand anything.
They are doing this all the time in 2020 games bro, updates are release every month, the only difference is all the community can benefit of it, not only a bunch of programmar hacker who use those benefit for themself only, because now it's hacking. :salty:
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First color to have been edited was BLACK to pink, the reason for that editation was the fact that black color and the fog in mini map was pretty similar and alot of players cant see ennemie units on the mini map.
I guess it's a advantage.
If you prefer black, use black. If pink is more comfortable for you, use pink.
What is the problem?
The developers are improving the game, making life easier for many players. And instead of gratitude (I'm not even talking about money), they receive a portion of the next shit from Equinox.
Well did he just admit that he have hacks other game too? wow what a genius
Sometimes I get the idea that you're not a dumb Equinox. This can be seen from individual phrases.
I had a version long ago that you are an ordinary Internet troll with nothing to do. And who does everything to stir up and infuriate the entire forum.
For your information, this is not the best way to wake people up.
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First color to have been edited was BLACK to pink, the reason for that editation was the fact that black color and the fog in mini map was pretty similar and alot of players cant see ennemie units on the mini map.
I guess it's a advantage.
If you prefer black, use black. If pink is more comfortable for you, use pink.
What is the problem?
The developers are improving the game, making life easier for many players. And instead of gratitude (I'm not even talking about money), they receive a portion of the next shit from Equinox.
Well did he just admit that he have hacks other game too? wow what a genius
Sometimes I get the idea that you're not a dumb Equinox. This can be seen from individual phrases.
I had a version long ago that you are an ordinary Internet troll with nothing to do. And who does everything to stir up and infuriate the entire forum.
For your information, this is not the best way to wake people up.
Everyone are gratefull for what you do, the only things is the way to do it, its not a freaking jungle where everyone made his own hacking.
You wanna do something for the community, you make sure is it release on a official future patch of the server.
Or at least, you make sure it is introduce to the download section of the website as an official add-on where everyone can clearly see it and download it.
But untill it's official, there no way to use those hacks in multiplayer mode of the official server.
Not my probleme if iL is lazy and cant do shit.
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Once an add-on or a modification is introduce into a new patch of the official server, it's not a hack anymore but an updates of the game itself for the entire community.
AHAHAHA
I understood what you mean by the word "hacking". Only this is not "hacking", but editing some of the game's resources. Basically, graphics, which do not affect the engine itself and so on.
Which, by the way, our developers talk about, and bring it into the game. And not only them - many ordinary players also throw off their developments. But you have already managed to curse everyone - this is the funniest thing.
Do you need pink? Take it and use it!
Do you need brown? You are welcome.
God it's look like i speak with a 9 years old children who just dont wanna understand anything.
The thing is that you absolutely indiscriminately call things not by their proper names. Hacking is when a hacker gets to see the map, or when he builds his buildings in 1 second. Pre-digging and changing the values in the game itself, which .. do not apply to mpk files :)
Funny, is not it?)They are doing this all the time in 2020 games bro, updates are release every month, the only difference is all the community can benefit of it, not only a bunch of programmar hacker who use those benefit for themself only, because now it's hacking.
Our community did not have the resources and time to constantly update the Warcraft2 game.
In view of:
1. constant and continuous pressure on your part, comrade, which can kill all motivation very quickly
2. stupidity of "some members" of society regarding these very innovations
3. due to the fact that such innovations should work on all versions of Warcraft2 - the time spent on their creation increases, and our community is still sitting on old versions like 3.0.1 =)
There are plans for constant updates, just ... just ... don't stop people from working. It's not that hard to close your mouth and not pour shit on anyone.
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Once an add-on or a modification is introduce into a new patch of the official server, it's not a hack anymore but an updates of the game itself for the entire community.
AHAHAHA
I understood what you mean by the word "hacking". Only this is not "hacking", but editing some of the game's resources. Basically, graphics, which do not affect the engine itself and so on.
Which, by the way, our developers talk about, and bring it into the game. And not only them - many ordinary players also throw off their developments. But you have already managed to curse everyone - this is the funniest thing.
Do you need pink? Take it and use it!
Do you need brown? You are welcome.
God it's look like i speak with a 9 years old children who just dont wanna understand anything.
The thing is that you absolutely indiscriminately call things not by their proper names. Hacking is when a hacker gets to see the map, or when he builds his buildings in 1 second. Pre-digging and changing the values in the game itself, which .. do not apply to mpk files :)
Funny, is not it?)They are doing this all the time in 2020 games bro, updates are release every month, the only difference is all the community can benefit of it, not only a bunch of programmar hacker who use those benefit for themself only, because now it's hacking.
Our community did not have the resources and time to constantly update the Warcraft2 game.
In view of:
1. constant and continuous pressure on your part, comrade, which can kill all motivation very quickly
2. stupidity of "some members" of society regarding these very innovations
3. due to the fact that such innovations should work on all versions of Warcraft2 - the time spent on their creation increases, and our community is still sitting on old versions like 3.0.1 =)
There are plans for constant updates, just ... just ... don't stop people from working. It's not that hard to close your mouth and not pour shit on anyone.
Cheating and Hacking are almost the same thing my brotha, it will only depent the way you use hacking. But cheating is about doing something to gain an advantage over other user, like typing ur friend in wisper, sniping other on stream, giving informations to discord, Cheating is about gaining an advantage over other users, easy like that. Hacking can be the same thing of cheating, it only depent the way you will use it, if you hacks the game for ur own benefit, this is cheating, if you hacks the game and make it official in a future patch, it is updating.
You guys can edit whatever the fuck you want, nobody cares, what you cant do is using those softwares, add-on, editation, call it whatever the hell you want, on the official multiplayer server untill it's release as an official patch.
Is that hard to understand???!!
I dont indiscriminately call things by improper name, you do! Everything i say is the simple truth... Once you edit the code source of the game, is clearly hacking, easy like that, now what you gonna do with this hacking is ur own choice, do you will use that hacking for benefit of the community in a future patch, or you will use that hacking for ur personal benefit as a cheater.
Thats what U8 and many mores have does, using that hacking for there own benefit as a cheater.
'' Our community did not have the resources and time to constantly update the Warcraft2 game. '' They dont have the time to made constant updates but they have the time to make useless campain in russian every fucking week, while they still keep hacking the community as cheating in the multiplayer official server.
Good one bro :salty:
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lol this is still a thing? I ran out of popcorn a week ago... Every single topic of the forum goes towards this nonsense XD everybody throws shit at everyone this is madness... And it affects the game as well what's happening here. You can't join someone's game because someone else will be mad at you hahaha! You want to save the server and have a place to play war2 with people, stop whinning and play the damn game! :D
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lol this is still a thing? I ran out of popcorn a week ago... Every single topic of the forum goes towards this nonsense XD everybody throws shit at everyone this is madness... And it affects the game as well what's happening here. You can't join someone's game because someone else will be mad at you hahaha! You want to save the server and have a place to play war2 with people, stop whinning and play the damn game! :D
Yes we are playing the game at war2usa actually, we gonna make war2usa safe for everyone, no cheater, no hackers, no special treatments.
Some peoples have start to move there with me, and we gonna see more and mores, dont worry.
Because peoples gonna be respected there and not being take for a full bunch of retards because they dont hacks and cheat the game. :thumbsup:
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'' Our community did not have the resources and time to constantly update the Warcraft2 game. '' They dont have the time to made constant updates but they have the time to make useless campain in russian every fucking week, while they still keep hacking the community as cheating in the multiplayer official server.
ooooooooooo! You've made yourself another enemy :)
Firstly, this is a complete lie.
Only one full-fledged fan campaign was created by the Russian-speaking part of the community. And by the way, it has been translated into English long ago, bro: http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.msg88385.html#msg88385 (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.msg88385.html#msg88385)
Secondly, all the usefulness in a multiplayer game that we have are introduced into the game and are now available to everyone. So there is nothing to complain about.
As for the "three-story" nonsense above, then ... fraud, hacking, editing graphic files are completely different things. Kill yourself, but they are different things!
And if you suddenly want to ask programmers (not hackers!) Something, then if you please do it politely, otherwise you will be sent to hell ... what am I telling ... ordinary human relations. You're not 3 years old, are you?
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Because peoples gonna be respected there and not being take for a full bunch of retards because they dont hacks and cheat the game.
You yourself do not respect anyone and are only capable of throwing shit at others.
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everybody throws shit at everyone
1. Yes that's a problem.
2. No, not everyone. Open your eyes, there are not many throwers, but mostly one.
people to come and show their characters
Enjoy "Flame Wars" then. Be real man.
PS. do smurf more btw, gl
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everything i say is the simple truth...
A lie repeated a thousand times does not become truth.
Once you edit the code source of the game
1. No one edited source code.
2. And a big revelation for your absent brain: MPQ does NOT contain sources, so stop crying already, dumbest spoiled kid ever seen.
And those 2 hacks are just the tip of the iceber, we know there way much more.
Stop talking in plural, you are not a "king of all war2". BTW you know nothing.
Firstly, the "black fix" has been available to everyone for a long time, and in the new War2Combat, you can even choose options.
Secondly, you were given hotkeys file directly (http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5888.msg92328.html#msg92328) by u8, but you are a lazy pig - you can't even lift a finger to do at least something yourself.
In general, your obsession with MPQ has long been known already, enough of it.
all the graphics of the orcs can be redrawed for the dwarfs - this will not change anything in the game mechanics, so stop twaddling.
And remember - no one owes you anything. But you need to close your cesspool-mouth and go wash it with soap.
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I logged onto war2usa once. There was 1 person in channel and no games
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Yes we are playing the game at war2usa actually, we gonna make war2usa safe for everyone, no cheater, no hackers, no special treatments.
I do occasionally play there to. I think Babyshark quit war2 though since I haven’t seen any games there in a long time.
I probably wouldn’t move there though cause I don’t trust tupac and I don’t like that ironfist bot in the main channel.
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I logged onto war2usa once. There was 1 person in channel and no games
I do follow their status page. There are some games there sometimes but I’ll say they are all “noob games.”
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'' Our community did not have the resources and time to constantly update the Warcraft2 game. '' They dont have the time to made constant updates but they have the time to make useless campain in russian every fucking week, while they still keep hacking the community as cheating in the multiplayer official server.
ooooooooooo! You've made yourself another enemy :)
Firstly, this is a complete lie.
Only one full-fledged fan campaign was created by the Russian-speaking part of the community. And by the way, it has been translated into English long ago, bro: [url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.msg88385.html#msg88385[/url] ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5534.msg88385.html#msg88385[/url])
Secondly, all the usefulness in a multiplayer game that we have are introduced into the game and are now available to everyone. So there is nothing to complain about.
As for the "three-story" nonsense above, then ... fraud, hacking, editing graphic files are completely different things. Kill yourself, but they are different things!
And if you suddenly want to ask programmers (not hackers!) Something, then if you please do it politely, otherwise you will be sent to hell ... what am I telling ... ordinary human relations. You're not 3 years old, are you?
Im not gonna argue with this, i even seen campain with peoples using there own picture as grunt!
Please stop trolling me with, '' we dont have time to cares of the server '' but we got time to make bunch of useless things that nobody cares excepte 10 trolls programmars hacker who jerk on solo campain.
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everything i say is the simple truth...
A lie repeated a thousand times does not become truth.
Once you edit the code source of the game
1. No one edited source code.
2. And a big revelation for your absent brain: MPQ does NOT contain sources, so stop crying already, dumbest spoiled kid ever seen.
And those 2 hacks are just the tip of the iceber, we know there way much more.
Stop talking in plural, you are not a "king of all war2". BTW you know nothing.
Firstly, the "black fix" has been available to everyone for a long time, and in the new War2Combat, you can even choose options.
Secondly, you were given hotkeys file directly ([url]http://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5888.msg92328.html#msg92328[/url]) by u8, but you are a lazy pig - you can't even lift a finger to do at least something yourself.
In general, your obsession with MPQ has long been known already, enough of it.
all the graphics of the orcs can be redrawed for the dwarfs - this will not change anything in the game mechanics, so stop twaddling.
And remember - no one owes you anything. But you need to close your cesspool-mouth and go wash it with soap.
Acting like a good guy dosent make you good.
There no lie only truth, code source is only a way to tell how a game have been programs.
'' MPQs used in Blizzard's games generally contain a game's data files, including graphics, sounds, and level data. The format's capabilities include compression, encryption, file segmentation, extensible file metadata, cryptographic signature and the ability to store multiple versions of the same file ''
With those informations you can edit the game itself wich include graphics, sounds, and level data.
This is part of the code source itself.
We all have seen 3 months ago what they can hacks with the mpq... Duration of building creation, one shot one kills, map hacks etc etc.
There alot informations about the game in those mpq.
Here what you guys are doing.
Here an article about reverse engenering and mpq data files.
Dont you know github? Thats the kind of website you go to hacks the mpq right? :sob: :sob: :sob:
https://80.lv/articles/reverse-engineered-diablo-source-code-available-on-github/
You see thats exactly the probleme right here, nobody cares that you are an hacker who do reverse engenering on warcraft II.
But the fact that you keep calling me a liar about what you really are is the probleme, the fact that you told peoples they are stupid and retards because they dont do reverse engenering and programmation hacking is the probleme.
People came here to play and have fun, being hacking is not part of '' FUN '' some people dont like that or appreciate that behavior, and those peoples dosent have to learn reverse engenering programmation hacking to be at the same stage of other cheaters hackers. You wanna play with an editation, all good make it official in a future patch of the server, no way you gonna use it for yourself and accuse peoples of being retards because they dont do reverse engenering programmation hacking.
Just realize the fact that, whatever you do, if you do it in multiplayer without make it official on the server ur not only a hacker, but also a hacker cheater.
We love hackers, untill it's for the benefit of the entire community, if you do something for urself like a little rat, then ur not better then u8.
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Please stop trolling me with, '' we dont have time to cares of the server '' but we got time to make bunch of useless things that nobody cares excepte 10 trolls programmars hacker who jerk on solo campain.
If there were no developments for a single player game, there would be no newest developments in multiplayer.
Your eternal claims are completely unfounded.
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Please stop trolling me with, '' we dont have time to cares of the server '' but we got time to make bunch of useless things that nobody cares excepte 10 trolls programmars hacker who jerk on solo campain.
If there were no developments for a single player game, there would be no newest developments in multiplayer.
Your eternal claims are completely unfounded.
Dont worry i know thats you learn alot in reverse engenering with those solo campains, good for you, good for us, you can do whatever you want, the point is not here, the point is dont tell me you dont have any time to take cares of our server, because it's a lie, If you do something that will be use in multiplayer, then you make it official on the server so everyone can use it, not only you, if you dont make it public for everyone, then dont use it on multiplayer mode or your an hacker cheater.
Period bro.
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Dont worry i know thats you learn alot in reverse engenering with those solo campains, good for you, good for us, you can do whatever you want, the point is not here, the point is dont tell me you dont have any time to take cares of our server, because it's a lie, If you do something that will be use in multiplayer, then you make it official on the server so everyone can use it, not only you, if you dont make it public for everyone, then dont use it on multiplayer mode or your an hacker cheater.
Period bro.
And we are trying to release it immediately to the masses, if you have not noticed until now.
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Dont worry i know thats you learn alot in reverse engenering with those solo campains, good for you, good for us, you can do whatever you want, the point is not here, the point is dont tell me you dont have any time to take cares of our server, because it's a lie, If you do something that will be use in multiplayer, then you make it official on the server so everyone can use it, not only you, if you dont make it public for everyone, then dont use it on multiplayer mode or your an hacker cheater.
Period bro.
And we are trying to release it immediately to the masses, if you have not noticed until now.
Well it took 5 years before someone drop customize hotkeys, 5 years where u8 was hacking us, and instead of saying sorry to the community, he just say, you retard cuz you cant hack the mpq lol
Here the probleme, if u8 did it one time, what peoples gonna do now..
Thats why open source mpq should be close on the official server.
Version CHECK, if it's not the official version of war2ru, then you cant acces the server.
Period.
But i guess closing the corrupted version and clients is too much money lose for the zombie network, right?
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I always told it, i really appreciate the fact that u8 told us the truth, cuz actually he have been an honnest hackers compare to some other one who probably do the same thing as him and stay quiet.
But the part where he just argue over and over about not being an hacker and we are all just retards about the fact that we dont do hacking lose his honnesty.
At this point he is just like, hey guys i hack, but since i told you truth, you all just can go fuck yourself :thumbsup:
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3 months ago what they can hacks with the mpq
And? Some real hacker-troll was fooling you, and you cried about mpq? What an idiot...
He not need your stupid "mpq" for hacking, get it finally.
MPQs used in Blizzard's games generally contain a game's data files, including graphics, sounds, and level data
Now we found out that you can't even read.
Re-read this quote of your own everyday before going to sleep until you understand finally that graphics, sounds and level data are NOT source code.
you have no idea about what you talk
Exactly.
You are simply sick. Cel was right.
' we dont have time to cares of the server '' but we got time to make bunch of useless things that nobody cares
iL sometimes working on commons server problems, and much more, Mistral - minds his own works.
Most peoples have real life, work, and so on. Not your bchy business what they do with their free time.
The world doesn't revolve around your dumb ass, get used to it.
And you... what are you doing in real life? ... Well, except for masturbation, forum pollution and playing War2. (a rhetorical question)
Maybe "zombie network" that has taken over your brain will loosen the grip someday.
So think about this question sometimes.
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3 months ago what they can hacks with the mpq
And? Some real hacker-troll was fooling you, and you cried about mpq? What an idiot...
He not need your stupid "mpq" for hacking, get it finally.
MPQs used in Blizzard's games generally contain a game's data files, including graphics, sounds, and level data
Now we found out that you can't even read.
Re-read this quote of your own everyday before going to sleep until you understand finally that graphics, sounds and level data are NOT source code.
you have no idea about what you talk
Exactly.
You are simply sick. Cel was right.
' we dont have time to cares of the server '' but we got time to make bunch of useless things that nobody cares
iL sometimes working on commons server problems, and much more, Mistral - minds his own works.
Most peoples have real life, work, and so on. Not your bchy business what they do with their free time.
The world doesn't revolve around your dumb ass, get used to it.
And you... what are you doing in real life? ... Well, except for masturbation, forum pollution and playing War2. (a rhetorical question)
Maybe "zombie network" that has taken over your brain will loosen the grip someday.
So think about this question sometimes.
Here another thread where peoples talk about blizzard and MPQ, some peoples complaint that peoples are using mpq modling to cheat or even create map hack, other genius like you say it dont gain any advantage. Dont tell me you cant create hacks with mpq, here again it's a lie, you can create map hack, customize hotkeys, yellow gold mine, messiah grid map, color change, blood lust sound, modification of every images of the game, modification of every sound of the game, there so much things to hacks, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Stop fucking lying bro!
The things is peoples say you cant create hacks with mpq because it will take too much time, compare to make an external software, but it's still possible, the things is that external software get caught by anti hack while internal modification in the mpq dont get caught at all, it's possible there not alot of mpq hacked in recent blizzard games, but it's also possible that some genius have hacked the warcraft II mpq for the last 20 years.
https://tl.net/forum/starcraft-2/356033-mpq-modding-shutdown-petition
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Remember that time u8 have been caught of hacking?!
(https://i.imgur.com/uHALuEi.png)
:salty: :salty: :salty:
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And by the way since you are the genius, can you explain us what is LEVEL DATAS from the mpq?
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Just pointing the obvious, this thread is about enforcing forum rules and having clear ruleset not hacking but since you want to talk about this, at least I will try and make sure you know what you are talking about:
You are using words like they are BIG where really they have simple meanings:
Source code is just readable code this is what programmers do when they make a game they create source code, the source code then gets compiled to make executables otherwise known as "machine code" or "binary code" that the computer can understand and run. Warcraft 2 source code is all the .c and .h files blizzard probably still have somewhere in a hard drive but there is no source code in the shipped product all we have is the compiled binaries.
So the compiled game warcraft 2 does not have a source code inside what so ever, this is not a thing.
I may not be a hacker but I am a programmer and I know how this works better than you do and it is fine. Everyone has his own domains of things they know it does not make you a lesser person not to know. Trying to look like you know better and using words you do not understand like they are BIG thing when they really are not does though...
Imagine if I was trying to teach you how sound works... I would look like a damn fool...
By analyzing binary code (machine code) you can try and re-create a more readable code that you can then use as source code for making your version of the game but that code if you compile it would not give you the same executable signature at all this is what reverse engineering is.
The problem is If people had found a way to reverse engineer the game like you say, and get a working source-code from it, people here would not have to do any external plugins, people would be able to litterally change everything in the program itself without having to go through any trouble, adding features like matchmaking and change or add even more features like queueing orders etc... And at that point it would not be hacking anymore but programming since you work on your own fresh source code at this point what you need is a programmer.
A programmer's job is to manage data, all of what a program does is taking data somewhere read it and from there create/change/delete/move/read data this is in essence what it comes down to.
So in every program including war2, you have the program itself (usually the .exe and .dll files) and you have the data it uses. For war2 the program is in the .exe and .dll files and the data well you guessed it it is in the MPQ archives for the most part.
So by changing carefully what is in the data files (MPQ) you can to some extent change the way the program behaves for example if you remove a sound file it wont be able to read it anymore etc... But you do not have a source code at this point all of what you are doing is modifying bits of data the program reads to know what to do some of that data determines what you should or should not be able to see and what color it is on screen.
So although MPQ files could help understanding what the program does and how it does it, they are just an archive format like .zip or .rar nothing more. The files inside are often files of pure data stored in a byte by byte fassion just like the .pud files stores data about the terrain and units or players in the game.
Now at least, you know a little better what you are talking about. And you may stop using words you do not understand like they are BIG things when they really aren't.
There is nothing admirable in hacking nothing "Military grade" in reverse engineering as long as you are not hacking a freaking missile or something from the US army...
These words you use have a meaning and you should understand their meaning before you use them.
On another note I never said war2 cannot be hacked ever, so stop lying about what I said.
I said people like u8 have better things to do than to hack in their games and would probably not feel any good if they won with an unfair advantage. Now you see hotkeys as an unfair advantage and he saw it differently obviously.
Though you lie when you say he did not openly distribute his hotkeys to others when he clearly did from day 1.
That is what I said.
I also said it is obvious that a 25 years old game like war2 can be hacked that does not mean everyone here is a black hat hacker coming to get you...
Once you read that I would love this thread to be cleaned of all the non-sense and it to return to what it was meant to be, discussing about having rules for the forum that put a proper frame for admins actions so that people dont get their feelings hurt when the ban hammer drops and it does not become personal everytime it drops...
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I dont even read you anymore.
Sorry.
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War2 forums since the beginning of time have been like this and it isn't about to change now because some hotshot wannabee admin wants it to. These forums are a place for people to come and show their characters whether you like those characters or not. I think of it as wrestling, where you have your heels and baby faces. Like them or hate them they are here to entertain. This isn't some PRO league like sc2 where things are taken super seriously. Chill out dude
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War2 forums since the beginning of time have been like this and it isn't about to change now because some hotshot wannabee admin wants it to. These forums are a place for people to come and show their characters whether you like those characters or not. I think of it as wrestling, where you have your heels and baby faces. Like them or hate them they are here to entertain. This isn't some PRO league like sc2 where things are taken super seriously. Chill out dude
Well there lot of truth in that, but there something i must say... The goal here is not only to fuck around and make peoples mad, yes i use that Heel Role to make my point understand, because it pay, everyone read those threads, everytime i made a thread i finish with thousand of views while other peoples cant barely pass 200 views. Peoples love my threads and are entertain by them, when i join the server they all talk about it and laugh hard, mostly only programmars hackers and admins cry about it and try to make dictature, But anyway at the end it's not for free.. The goal here is to make the game as the same level of any sc2 pro league...
But you are right, it's not, so i think the fact that they only gave us a jungle bring peoples to act like they live in a jungle.
Easy like that.
PS: Cel is definitly the biggest wannabee ever, always suck nuts of everyone like the world have been save, and hes always talking about his programmar skills and try to make his points worth like if he was an admin, but told us hes not, and as a programmar he never did anything to help the server, always told us he is lazy and asking 200$ to do something for the community... Only things that guys does is trying to suck peoples money out and broke the game. Telling us tupac is a cyber criminal cuz he bring moustopher facebook on the forum and he would leave if tupac came back as admin, If that guys was an animal, he would be a raccon for sure.
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On russian side there are rules, unlike here...
You cant keep complaining the server does not grow or even is loosing players and then say everything has to stay the same.
You may love the trash talk and all that shit. I say this is what keeps us from growing...
I say we should discuss about getting that place clean and following the example of other place that are run properly.
Anyone should have the right to discuss what they think about the way this place is run, I am no admin and dont want to be one but we can discuss these things.
This actually has more its place here than any of these stupid finger pointing. And trash talks people keep having...
Yup:
Distribution of Real-Life Personal Information
This category includes:
Releasing any real-life information about other players or Blizzard Entertainment employees
If a player is found to have participated in such actions, he/she will:
Be permanently banned from the forums
Go ahead be my guest go reveal a Blizzard admin's facebook account on your Heroes of the storm forums see how this things are welcomed there.
I dont care how many people knew about it or how easy it was of an information to get this is still unacceptable and the fact that you still want to defend that behavior says a lot about you.
You by defending these actions and acting the way you are are certainly closer to have the mentality of a stupid black hat hacker than I ever will, or u8 ever will for that matter, congrats!
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On russian side there are rules, unlike here...
You cant keep complaining the server does not grow or even is loosing players and then say everything has to stay the same.
You may love the trash talk and all that shit. I say this is what keeps us from growing...
I say we should discuss about getting that place clean and following the example of other place that are run properly.
Anyone should have the right to discuss what they think about the way this place is run, I am no admin and dont want to be one but we can discuss these things.
This actually has more its place here than any of these stupid finger pointing. And trash talks people keep having...
You can keep ur Russian communism dictature for russian forum, thank you.
And ive never say server dont grow or server lose peoples, i think server is the same things since the last 15 years, between 20 and 80 users daily... Only you and retarded peoples see improving lol..
You think we need to clean the place for the good of community but when it's time to ban racist peoples like van nobody does shit, cuz at the end we all know iL is not running this place about ethic but only about WHAT HE REALLY WANT.. There no democratie at all, there no ethic, there only a guy who do what he think the best for his personal benefit..
If he must ban me because 1 admin cry, he will ban me, if he must keep me because 2 admins cry, he will keep me...
Same thing with van, and lot of other cases, it have been like that for 15 years newbe.
Admin dont run no shit dude, community run shit, players who have give 20 years of there life to that game run the shit bro, not a bunch of hypocrites liars, without the community you have no zombie network, punk!
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Look at Tora Now... Dude have talkshit about master challenge for months, and since i left that role, he did not do shit at all...
How the game is improving, you guys are a bunch of fucktard who destroy the game everyday, if you can do better then me, then stop talkshit and do better then me!
But he cant, the proof is nothing have change since i left, he just let the series totally die.
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And this is where having proper rules helps, it makes things clear and stops making admin decisions personal..
No more bypass etc you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk, the fact that you are that or that other oldschool person does not matter and should not ever matter.
No one cares if you are the best at war2 or if you have played the game ever since you were a todler if you act like a jerk you are a jerk end of story.
If we ever want Blizzard or anyone to start thinking war2.ru is legitimate and want to deal with us instead of just casting us away or worse then we need to start adapting to the world around us and adopting similar rules.
This is what will stop our community from dying to some extent, Babyshark was right about this and I always said it, I disagreed with her on the whole splitting servers thing but we agreed on that point. And actually I am kinda happy she had a place to play for all that time but I think she should be able to play here too.
It will take the time that it takes but things have to move here as well and I am hopefull they will...
And dont tell me people will quit because it is going to be moderated hell you play HOTS and Xurnt plays Starcraft 2, so apparently you are fine with a place that is properly moderated you just want war2 not to have their success for whatever reason. And I am the one who wants war2 to die?!
OH and BTW here is some of the things I did for the game so far:
I created a program to help manage the most basic DDOS attacks that kept crippling the server which happened to protect the server on at least two occasions.
I also helped iL find a way to stop future attacks and implement a proper shield against them.
I created a page for streamers to be able to display the players in their games and the teams they are on and will continue upgrading that feature in the future to add player colors amongst other things.
I help regularly streamers that ask me nicely to set their stream up so they can stream war2 and made some art for them to have on stream. I continue to reach out to other communities to let them know war2.ru exists and bring people in. Which you experienced first hand when I freaking pushed a 40 times more successful than you streamer from starcraft to raid your worthless channel.
I manage the discord and help new players there setting up their game and making things run on a regular basis.
And guess how many of these dude run away once they see the forum BTW such a freaking spine in the foot that shit place is...
So fuck off, I am not blaming you for not knowing how to do any of these things but you are NOTHING. Your stupid negative and paranoid rants and freaking spam is clearly pushing more people away from the game than your managing of tournaments and ladder ever kept in. All you do is just displaying your negativity and mental disabilities to a point that EVEN TWITCH banned you once apparently. Stop acting like you are worth shit to this game because clearly in my eyes you aren't.
And NO the russians have not hired me to manipulate you the simple fact that you could believe something like that shows how centered on yourself you are! Stop polluting my thread now tyvm and gtfo!
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And this is where having proper rules helps, it makes things clear and stops making admin decisions personal..
No more bypass etc you act like a jerk you get treated like a jerk, the fact that you are that or that other oldschool person does not matter and should not ever matter.
No one cares if you are the best at war2 or if you have played the game ever since you were a todler if you act like a jerk you are a jerk end of story.
If we ever want Blizzard or anyone to start thinking war2.ru is legitimate and want to deal with us instead of just casting us away or worse then we need to start adapting to the world around us and adopting similar rules.
This is what will stop our community from dying to some extent, Babyshark was right about this and I always said it, I disagreed with her on the whole splitting servers thing but we agreed on that point. And actually I am kinda happy she had a place to play for all that time but I think she should be able to play here too.
It will take the time that it takes but things have to move here as well and I am hopefull they will...
And dont tell me people will quit because it is going to be moderated hell you play HOTS and Xurnt plays Starcraft 2, so apparently you are fine with a place that is properly moderated you just want war2 not to have their success for whatever reason. And I am the one who wants war2 to die?!
Nobody argue the fact that rules will bring us to another level, 5 years ago i was the one to tell at iL we must delete all those trash thread instead to moving them in a flames thread, because i told him if blizzard staff see that it will not help us... But he dint cares at all, bro you cant even delete ur own account if you want, the dude dont let us delete ur account... WTF IS this dictature.. Nobody is responsable for his own decision.... He have make it happen, not us... Do you know how much time i was ready to delete my account and all those shitty threads and cant because this weirdo want to keep it? Nobody is responsable for his decision.
Ive always told it, this guy is probably super cool, but he dont have any fucking idea about what hes doing....
You told us we split the community??? But hes the own whos split the community between russian and rest of the world.
He dont take any action to reunited everyone, split russian, split tupac server and let retard like you make ur stupid comment like, im gonna leave if tupac ever comback as admin... BRO STFU nobody cares what you think, you gonna leave what bro? Did you ever do something for the server?? Only things you do is sniffing for money.... Do you know how we will improve that server with tupac, cuz actually tupac is not lazy like you, talkshit all day long about what we can do or not, while in fact ur the one whos say every day long that you are lazy and asking 200$ to make hotkeys software for the community.
You want that server to have rules and ethic, stop acting like the little hypocrite bitch you really are.
''Tupac is a cyber criminal and dangerous for us'' gtfo dude, tupac is our best tools for that server, and you are lucky that hes not what you think he is, because ur little security server will not stand 2 hours idiot.
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And NO the russians have not hired me to manipulate you the simple fact that you could believe something like that shows how centered on yourself you are! Stop polluting my thread now tyvm and gtfo!
Thread are open to everyone, fuck you and use ignore command if you dont wanna see what i say, thats the way to do, not banning peoples or remove ther threads when you really want! Maybe you dont wanna see me, but there peoples who want, thats freespeech and democracy, even if you dont like it, punk!
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And by the way, you can keep leeching everyone viewers, because thats what you do punk, going in every streamer channel and leeching there viewers, you think we dont see you on gypsy and oneleether?? Always sucking there streamer like the little racoon you are.
You was even leeching my stream 3 months ago when i was rolling daily with 20 viewers and you still had 4 views per day.
I remember when you was complaning about getting ban everywhere and only have 4 viewers a day, who the fuck make you what you are today by telling to everyone to support you, hypocrite!
Bro we see you!
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Security, do you wanna see how secure you made this server? Tell me one word and ill show you! Just told me one word!
I am the security for this server, dint you have realize that yet? Fucking idiot.
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Do you even understand what community building is? It is about making friends and benefiting one another... Making sure we know each other is the way forward to building something big.
So yes I go to all these other cool streamers that stream cool things or stuff that is in the same line as I do and I reach out. Maybe their viewers are going to like our content too maybe they wont. But ultimately there is nothing wrong to it.
Just because you are an unlikable human being does not mean we all are incappable of creating human relationships that are mutually beneficial and grow friendships.
You did not look sad about receiving a raid from a guy you didnt even know the last time it happened that I tried to help you grow your shit.
At least I am doing the work I receive the benefits from, you are just happy getting the results when they come to you...
But I am the one being a hypocrite sure...
Attacking the server is an easy thing much easier than protecting it. In all things being the guy that break stuff is easier than the one who built it.
I have no admiration or respect for people that only know how to break stuff.
Making a ddos attack is easy to learn from youtube hell there are tons of tutorials out there from anonymous amongst other retards, but go ahead show everyone how low you are willing to go to prove a point!
I have nothing to prove, the protection I did was a very temporary fix to help manage the problem quickly and it held 3 weeks.
Yet how ever small and useless it was, it is still better than all you have ever done for the server from my perspective...
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Nobody argue the fact that rules will bring us to another level,
Nobody?
Are you sure we live in the same dimention here? Have you have a good look at this thread answers for more than a second?
This is the whole point of that thread we are just discussing why we should have rules...
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Do you even understand what community building is? It is about making friends and benefiting one another... Making sure we know each other is the way forward to building something big.
So yes I go to all these other cool streamers that stream cool things or stuff that is in the same line as I do and I reach out. Maybe their viewers are going to like our content too maybe they wont. But ultimately there is nothing wrong to it.
Just because you are an unlikable human being does not mean we all are incappable of creating human relationships that are mutually beneficial and grow friendships.
Attacking the server is an easy thing much easier than protecting it. In all things being the guy that break stuff is easier than the one who built it.
I have no admiration or respect for people that only know how to break stuff.
Making a ddos attack is easy to learn how to do from youtube hell there are tons of tutorials out there from anonymous amongst other retards, but go ahead show everyone how low you are willing to go to prove a point! I have nothing to prove the protection I did was a very temporary fix to help manage the problem quickly for 3 weeks.
Yet it is still better than all you have ever done for the server from my perspective...
Yes i understand you build community by leeching other viewers, some streamer tolerate that, like i did with you! Some other would ban you straight up from there channel. But you cant com and say things about other streams when in fact you leech there viewers, it's disonnest and represent you pretty good... The little raccon you are.
You really seem to not understand why i dislike you so much, because even if im the worst human being at ur eyes, im still an honnest person and i dont act like the little hypocrite you are... Being an hypocrite dosent make you a better person then me dude, do you understand that?
Look at ur last 5 post, you now starting being rude, you finally let us show ur true face, and im gonna be honnest, i like that!
Be a man and just tell me what you really think, dont came to me like the little hypocrite you have been for the six last months, trying to be cool and funny to manipulate me and make me shut my mouth when in fact we both know you dont like me at all since the beginning. There a probleme on this server and we must solve it, not manipulate peoples.
You are an hypocrite bro, a blind man would see it, you call peoples cyber criminal when you want, '' oh tupac send moustopher facebook on forum '' while ur big bro iL let peoples harassing my personal life for years and posting my picture all day long with drawing into it.
Why dont you left now?? I mean iL literrally let cyber criminal harasse me for years...... Here the point that you dont seem to realize, im all good with the RULES and everything you want, im not just good with the hypocrite peoples who apply rules when they want and rigged pool when major decision have to been take by the community.
And you still acting like u8 have never hacks nobody, u8 have hacks us for years like alot of other players, just admit it and stop being that dumb liar hypocrite.
Thats what im not good with.... Not all the bullshit that you say.
Hypocrite.
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Tell me now you never told me i was right and peoples have hacked the code source and the mpq of this game for over 20 years and they are so good at it that even if you want to do something against it you cant do shit at all.
Told me now it's not true!
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Tell me you never told me iL put the anti hack to calm the community because actually the anti hack is just a blurr, and peoples are using 2 differents computers and even a windows clone to bypass the anti hack and being flag as AH while in fact they are hacking the game..
Told me now it's not true!!
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Told me you never ask me 200$ to make me my own customize hack.
Told me NOW!!!! :sob: :sob: :sob:
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1) iL is not the one managing this forum he left it to others to manage.
2) I am not hypocritical I genuinely like these other streamers I watch them and I consider myself a part of their communities. I never shamelessly advertized my stuff I made friends with them before I ever said I was streaming too. I never forced them to do anything for us I did however tell gypsy that I knew you would be happy to receive a raid and that it would help us grow too. He did raid you knowing that he was not wasting his raid but was also going to make new friends doing so... I am sad you cannot see that but for you it is always all evil or all good so there is no point arguing further...
3) Because I talk about these problems with enough respect to people in charge we may actually get results someday. Maybe you should try respect sometime.
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I have been rude, me? I have not insulted you though, I have certainly shown that you are pissing me off for sure but at least I dont think my words are overshot.
I can see you do not like people that want to avoid being unnecessarily insulting but we are not the same person you and me. I respect others and I show it, I respect people that I disagree with and I know for a fact that calling names wont ever help any of my arguments so there is absolutely no reason to in my eyes.
That is why I am not usually "rude" because I just would not like myself if I were. I dont care if you like that or not I am not going to insult you just to make you like me lol...
It is not being hypocritical not to say things you may regret, or not to throw insults at people you disagree with it is just knowing how to be respectfull...
Sadly we clearly did not run through the same shit in life...
I believe in the world we live in, violence and insults only get you so far, but it never brings anything good, never...
Now I dont judge you for the way you act on your emotions, I understand we are not all made of the same steel.
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About the 200$ thing:
I did tell you I was certainly not going to make the hotkeys program, as I would have to do it all from scratch and really didnt have the time to or just didnt want to take the time to.
You kept insisting that I should spend all my time on it regardless of if it was what I wanted to do or not.
So I answered there are things a person may be willing to do for free and they certainly will but you cant force someone to do something you want them to do if they do not want to.
Otherwise everything in life would be free.
Of course I joked about 200$ honestly I would not even have done it for 2000$ either maybe 20000$ I would have started to reconsider we all have a price even you or you are a saint LOL.
Anyways more seriously, it just was a way to make you understand that behind all these cool stuff you keep receiving is time people spend. And it is time you actually realize that: This time for them has a cost too, and it is definitely not a cost you yourself would want to endorse...
If you think it is wrong to take money from peolpe to do what they want you to do, I suppose you should not live in a capitalist country...
I never forced people to pay me anything they pay me if they want to, same for some of my games some people paid me for games that are free games anyone can download and play. No one forced these people to give me money for it yet they did because they wanted to show their support and encourage me to do more games like this...
But I am EVIL for even allowing people to do that. Hell do you not pay your bills? Do you never pay for things?
How do YOU earn your living sir? Lets discuss...
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Tell me now you never told me i was right and peoples have hacked the code source and the mpq of this game for over 20 years and they are so good at it that even if you want to do something against it you cant do shit at all.
Told me now it's not true!
You also joke about that??!! Why dont you answer that??!!
Tell me you never told me iL put the anti hack to calm the community because actually the anti hack is just a blurr, and peoples are using 2 differents computers and even a windows clone to bypass the anti hack and being flag as AH while in fact they are hacking the game..
Told me now it's not true!!
I guess you were also joking about that?? Why you also dont answer that?!
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Let's go ANSWER HYPOCRITE!!!
My little racoon!!
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Oh I can answer that too, I stand by what I said ofc people hacked the game in the past and probably can still do.
And I also said I do not believe any antihack can ever stop that for good otherwise games like starcraft 2 and all these modern games wouldn't have been hacked ever.
Sure you can try and make it slightly more difficult but you cant stop it and I even told you why, because everything is client side unlike in games like League of legend where only the server knows where things are on the behind the fog of war.
As I said I never lied to you or anyone about this... Also all I said is based on my own beliefs and understanding of how things are...
You can draw your own conclusions but I always think having an understanding of what we are talking about should help drawing the most likely conclusions.
In our case yes it is probably been hacked for ages and all but also I said that it is very unlikely people do it as much as you think they do.
And I still think that the fact that we have such a small community makes these hacks very unlikely to be used and if they are people using them take the risk of being casted aside...
People more likely stream snipe than they actually hack if you want my honest thoughs on this and I dont even care that much its stupid from people that do but whatever...
Point is, if you think someone hacks PROVE it show us a game where he does something that he should not be able to do... Then the guy probably will be banned as a result...
And I have an even easier solution for you: Do not play with people you do not trust or like! How about you try that?!
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Oh I can answer that too, I stand by what I said ofc people hacked the game in the past and probably can still do.
And I also said I do not believe any antihack can ever stop that for good otherwise games like starcraft 2 and all these modern games wouldn't have been hacked ever.
Sure you can try and make it slightly more difficult but you cant stop it and I even told you why, because everything is client side unlike in games like League of legend where only the server knows where things are on the behind the fog of war.
As I said I never lied to you or anyone about this... Also all I said is based on my own beliefs and understanding of how things are...
You can draw your own conclusions but I always think having an understanding of what we are talking about should help drawing the most likely conclusions.
In our case yes it is probably been hacked for ages and all but also I said that it is very unlikely people do it as much as you think they do.
And I still think that the fact that we have such a small community makes these hacks very unlikely to be used and if they are people using them take the risk of being casted aside...
People more likely stream snipe than they actually hack if you want my honest thoughs on this and I dont even care that much its stupid from people that do but whatever...
Point is, if you think someone hacks PROVE it show us a game where he does something that he should not be able to do... Then the guy probably will be banned as a result...
And I have an even easier solution for you: Do not play with people you do not trust or like! How about you try that?!
NO DUDE, TELL ME THAT YOU NEVER TOLD ME WORD FOR WORD THATS PEOPLES HAVE HACK THE CODE SOURCE AND THE MPQ OF THIS GAME FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY ARE SO GOOD AT IT THAT EVEN IF YOU GUYS WANT TO DO SHIT YOU CANT DO!!
TOLD ME YOU DINT SAY ME THAT WORD FOR WORD..
YES YOU TOLD IT
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NO I LIE!
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I just said that I did tell you people probably know their way around every single file of that game and it is by now probably muuuuuch easier to hack war2 than it is to stop hacking all together without invading the guy's privacy.
There is nothing wrong to what I said LOL
It does not mean every single user is a hacker. It means it probably is easy to do there is a very big difference...
And there is a easy solution to it as I just said:
"Dont play with people you do not trust or like!"
^ That is a very easy fix. Yup the best solution ever for such a small community like the one we have!
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I just said that I did tell you people probably know their way around every single file of that game and it is by now probably muuuuuch easier to hack war2 than it is to stop hacking all together without invading the guy's privacy.
There is nothing wrong to what I said LOL
TELL ME YOU DINT SAY THAT TO ME, WORD FOR WORD.
'' PEOPLES HAVE HACK THE CODE SOURCE AND THE MPQ OF THIS GAME FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY ARE SO GOOD AT IT THAT EVEN IF WE GUYS WANT DO TO SHIT WE CANT DO''
TIME TO BE A MAN.
ARE YOU A MAN, OR A LITTLE HYPOCRITE RACOON?!!
YOU WANT THE PEACE? TIME TO BE A MAN, MAN!
YES OR NO?!!
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'' PEOPLES HAVE HACK THE CODE SOURCE AND THE MPQ OF THIS GAME FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY ARE SO GOOD AT IT THAT EVEN IF WE GUYS WANT DO TO SHIT WE CANT...''
^ That would be the english version of what I said to some extent YES, I just told you I am not denying that I said that :rofl:.
And like I said this is based on my understanding of why I think there is no point spending hours on to try and make another antihack and that the best solution is to handle it the way I just said. By not playing with people you do not like or trust in the first place...
Now you can disagree with me and think it is wrong but I am telling the things the way I see them...
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'' PEOPLES HAVE HACK THE CODE SOURCE AND THE MPQ OF THIS GAME FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY ARE SO GOOD AT IT THAT EVEN IF WE GUYS WANT DO TO SHIT WE CANT DO''
^ That would be the english version of what I said to some extent, yes I just told you I am not denying that I said that :rofl:.
And like I said this is based on my understanding of why I think there is no point spending hours on to try and make another antihack and that the best solution is to handle it the way I just said. By not playing with people you do not like or trust in the first place...
It's not an extention it exactly what you said WORD FOR WORD BRO..
And now tell me you never told me..
WORD FOR WORD
'' iL put the anti hack to calm the community because actually the anti hack is just a blurr, and peoples are using 2 differents computers and even a windows clone to bypass the anti hack and being flag as AH while in fact they are hacking the game.. ''
YES or NO, dont fuck peoples around with a bunch of explanations and excuses, just answer YES OR NO!
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TIME TO BE A MAN BRO, ARE YOU A MAN OR THAT LITTLE HYPOCRITE?!!
YES OR NO?!!
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Hmmm You know, Id rather have you actually put here the whole reccording of what was said that night because I certainly did not word it the way you word it here!
The meaning is mostly the same but your english is not good enough here I am sorry it just isn't or you are trying to make me say things I did not say...
Cutting things out of context tends to do that...
My point back then was and still is the same: A antihack is either a spying software that is remotely controlled which is pretty bad and which is not what the antihack does. Or it is what this antihack probably is: A software that does a few checks and communicate with the server for the results.
I did not say I knew for sure that people were using two different computers or windows clones to bypass things I used that as an example of things that could be done ultimately in theory.
Because the way I see it the antihack is just another program that sends data back and forth to the server and you could make your own program that sends the same data and it probably would work, probably...
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Hmmm You know, Id rather have you actually put here the whole reccording of what was said that night because I certainly did not word it the way you word it here!
The meaning is mostly the same but your english is not good enough here I am sorry it just isn't or you are trying to make me say things I did not say...
Cutting things out of context tends to do that...
My point back then was and still is the same: A antihack is either a spying software that is remotely controlled which is pretty bad and which is not what the antihack does. Or it is what this antihack probably is a software that does a few checks and communicate with the server for the results.
I did not say I knew for sure that people were using two different computers or windows clones to bypass things I used that as an example of things that could be done ultimately.
Because the way I see it the antihack is just another program that sends data back and forth to the server and you could make your own program that sends the same data and it probably would work, probably...
Your so a little liar bro, little hypocrite, and you know why i know it exactly what you say?? Because you told me in french bro, there no miss understood here lol :sob: :sob: :sob: :salty: :salty: :salty:
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You are the one trying to take things out of context "bro" to fit your own narrative.
Now go ahead, put the whole thing here so we can all see how you try to take things out of context to make me say things I never said!
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You are the one trying to take things out of context "bro" to fit your own narrative.
Now go ahead, put the whole thing here so we can all see how you try to take things out of context to make me say things I never said!
It's exacly what you did say bro, WORD FOR WORD, there no out of context here, it's exactly what you said in french.
Peoples have hack this game for over 20 years and you cant do shit even if you want, but ur the one who take cares of the security of the server while iL put useless anti hack to manipulate peoples :salty: :sob: :sob: :sob:
You guys can call me a liar and a monster because i say truth, bunch of liars racoons hypocrites lol :sob: :sob: :sob: :salty: :salty: :salty:
200$ :sob: :sob: :sob:
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That part I did not deny look above
"Peoples have hack this game for over 20 years and you cant do shit even if you want"
I already agreed that I said that, what then?
This is my belief or maybe you think differently? Maybe you think the game was totally never hacked and is the unique game in history that wasn't hacked?
"but ur the one who take cares of the security of the server " => Oh I do I am just not believing in fairy tales I know there are things that can be done and others we have to rely on the community to handle. Here the solution is simpler if people just stop playing with people they do not trust or like.
I trust in people more than I trust in a antihack...
It just is the most common sense solution, we are not randomly matched up, you are never forced to play with anyone. You can choose who you are playing with, so do it...
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That part I did not deny look above
"Peoples have hack this game for over 20 years and you cant do shit even if you want"
I already agreed that I said that, what then?
This is my belief or maybe you think differently? Maybe you think the game was totally never hacked and is the unique game in history that wasn't hacked?
"but ur the one who take cares of the security of the server " => Oh I do I am just not believing in fairy tales I know there are things that can be done and others we have to rely on the community to handle. Here the solution is simpler if people just stop playing with people they do not trust or like.
I trust in people more than I trust in a antihack...
It just is the most common sense solution, we are not randomly matched up, you are never forced to play with anyone. You can choose who you are playing with, so do it...
'' iL at the moment ''
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Like I said there is nothing I said that night I dont stand by.
You seem to forget me iL and all these people are very different people.
I certainly think the anti-hack may have helped to detect a few things but at the end of the day it doesn't matter it always will be imperfect. It always will have flaws because I trust iL not to invade player's privacy...
And so this is why I said the things I said, the only thing I personally trust and rely on is my liking or trusting of other people playing in my games.
If I do not trust you you are out simple as that I do not understand why it is so difficult when we have no match making forcing people to play one another...
There is no point crying and jesticulating around about it...
This is simple really, we all have our own understanding of things and if you want to believe in a worldwide conspiracy so be it, we can disagree...
There is nothing I said here that I wont stand up for today...
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Like I said there is nothing I said that night I dont stand by.
You seem to forget me iL and all these people are very different people.
I certainly think the anti-hack may have helped to detect a few things but at the end of the day it doesn't matter it always will be imperfect. It always will have flaws because I trust iL not to invade player's privacy...
And so this is why I said the things I said, the only thing I personally trust and rely on is my liking or trusting of other people playing in my games.
If I do not trust you you are out simple as that I do not understand why it is so difficult when we have no match making forcing people to play one another...
There is no point crying and jesticulating around about it...
This is simple really we all have our own understanding of things and if you want to believe in a worldwide conspiracy so be it, we can disagree...
There is nothing I said here that I wont stand up for today...
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Now you are just trolling... Very mature of you you clearly cant have a serious discussion more than 2 minutes without your brain going boom. And starting to just post gifs...
Easy enough to accuse/insult people when you do not have to justify yourself over it...
We are done here you certainly know how to pollute a thread. This whole topic can be removed I dont care anymore...
At least even you seemed to agree rules are needed here...
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Now you are just trolling... Very mature of you you clearly cant have a serious discussion more than 2 minutes without your brain going boom. And starting to just post gifs...
Easy enough to accuse/insult people when you do not have to justify yourself over it...
We are done here you certainly know how to pollute a thread. This whole topic can be removed I dont care anymore...
At least even you seemed to agree rules are needed here...
Comming from the peoples who mute everyones, remove there threads and ban peoples for only saying the word '' MUSLIM ''. :sob: :sob: :sob:
Depend what kind of rules, democracy rules or dictature rules?!!
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Comming from the peoples who mute everyones and remove there threads and ask for dictature rules :sob: :sob: :sob:
You know exactly why you were temporary banned from the forum and you certainly never would have acted the way you did here in ANY other public forum in the first place...
It had nothing to do with your opinions everything to do with you abusing the forum and spamming shit that did not belong in the category you were posting in...
Dictature rules are when people are granted special favors based on their social rank and do not have to obey the same rules. Basically the opposite of what happened here...
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Comming from the peoples who mute everyones and remove there threads and ask for dictature rules :sob: :sob: :sob:
You know exactly why you were temporary banned from the forum and you certainly never would have acted the way you did here in ANY other public forum in the first place...
It had nothing to do with your opinions everything to do with you abusing the forum and spamming shit that did not belong in the category you were posting in...
Dictature rules are when people are granted special favors based on their social rank and do not have to obey the same rules. Basically the opposite of what happened here...
I dont have to act that way in other forums because actually other games and forum follow a certain ethic about hacking.
It has all to do with my opinion, never i would spam the forum if you guys dint remove my opinion.
But you decide talking about programmars hacker and possible zombie network on war2ru was not relate to war2ru section for some reason.
Like right now you are asking to remove that thread because of my opinion and the way you just failed, is there any spamming, no it's a debate.
'' Dictature rules are when people are granted special favors based on their social rank and do not have to obey the same rules. Basically the opposite of what happened here ''
Cant describe u8 better then that, or burnt, or van, or swift or even me :sob: :sob: :sob:
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This is just yourself avoiding the ANTIHACK, I Guess it's better to avoid it compare of being flag as hacker or UNKNOWN Report! :sob: :sob: :sob:
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Please explain to everyone what is a UNKNOWN Report! Or... I can do it for you if you want?!!
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One of the two false positive hacking ss of SWIFT, because yes he have been caught twice and both time iL say it was false positive Lol
If anyone can find the other one it would be great thanks.
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Rofl yeah right it makes total sense wooohoo I must be hacking my antihack is not running whooo shadyyyyyyy stuff right there :omg:.
This probably was another game I was spectating but I needed that hack so bad you know I care sooo much about winning and I always play sooo seriously it makes total sense I would hack to climb that very important ladder of yours <3.
You should avoid me I am a dangerous hacker obviously imma get you! :ok_hand: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Aight good talk! Im off you are obviously wasting my time!
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I also got a nice one right here, never show this one to nobody yet.
But since we wanna expose the weird peoples, let's show this one.
Lone using 2 of his smurfs in the same games.
Probably testing the windows clone that you talk me about :sob: :sob: :sob: :sob:
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Got one more hackers right here
Andrezej aka Pigmon aka Anathol brother of u8 or teaboy, some shit like that, we dont know those peoples are living double identity and lying all the times.
Please explain to everyone again what is a UNKNOWN Report!
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It's funny that all those false positive always turn around the same group of peoples.
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Tora goes to his dictature mode again so let me make a new thread thank you.
Look like Cel will not explain us what is a UNKNOWN REPORT!
Let me do ur security job please, move away, thank you.
Okay, let me explain to you guys..
ANTIHACK is an external script that allow the server to see wich versions of the game join the server.
This script have been made and programs by iL himself!
The server check those versions with what we call '' values reports'' , values reports that iL give himself to the Antihack as indicator!
Wich mean a certain code sources if we can call this that way.
Imagine the good value report version is '' 123456789 '' by exemple.
iL have split the antihack value report into 4 different categories.
AH, NONE, HACK, UNKNOWN.
AH - Wich mean the user is using the anti-hack and the proper value report VERSION that il told him to flag as the good one. '' 123456789 ''
NONE = Wich mean the user is not using ANTI HACK AT all, wich mean the ANTI HACK CANT MAKE ABSOLUTLY NO REPORT ABOUT THIS GUY, do he hack, maybe, maybe not, we just cant know.
HACK - Wich mean the user have been caught of hacking from an hacking value report that the antihack already know as hacking, like an antivirus does, antivirus keep report values of trojan, malware, backdoor, those report values are saved in a library of his register to quickly know when it happen, same mechanic here, antihack got a list of report value hacking in his library register.
and finally UNKNOWN or UNKNOWN i would say- Wich mean the users have been caught of changing the value report of the ALLOWED VERSION, wich mean HE is hacking but the anti hack dont have this hack on his register yet because it's a new hack and he never seen it before and nobody in those admins have take a look at this, so there absolutly no trace of that hack to flag HIM AS AN HACKER because no value report exist for this hack yet, because that value report is not in the register hacking yet, but he still know that report value is not the ALLOWED ONE!
PS: And when iL told us that swift have been flag HACK as a false positive, not once but two times, it's not true at all, because when you are flag as HACK, it's because that a value that the ANTIHACK already know as an hack, wich mean IL sett that report value himself AS A HACK... So how is that possible the anti hack flag someone as false positive when iL SETT this value himself as a hack!
Anti hack dosent make mystake, it's like mathematic, 1+1=2, nothing else, easy like that. If iL have set WARCRAP MAP HACK as ' 987654321 ' report value, when the anti hack will see the report value ' 987654321 ' he will just do what il told him to do, report this value as a hack!!
False positive, yeah right bro!
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I'm wondering if sharing accounts is deemed wrong around here. I mean there is smurfing the traditional way, then there is smurfing the sharing accounts way. Where you log into your main or smurf and you have a buddy who logs into your other name. And people be like OH so and so can't be that smurf, look hes right there. Let's just say I know I a few people who share accounts, which I don't think is completely right
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I'm wondering if sharing accounts is deemed wrong around here. I mean there is smurfing the traditional way, then there is smurfing the sharing accounts way. Where you log into your main or smurf and you have a buddy who logs into your other name. And people be like OH so and so can't be that smurf, look hes right there. Let's just say I know I a few people who share accounts, which I don't think is completely right
Pretty sure that swift literally got a group of friends who share account regulary since years and years.
But i dont think peoples use the Swift account, i think swift is the one who use the others accounts group to fucking around with the normal peoples elo in the ladder.