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Warcraft II => Server.War2.ru => Topic started by: Adam on September 16, 2023, 06:15:42 PM
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Before I begin I would like to give a shout out to people who have put a lot into this game since I've been gone(you know who you are). The changes I see to the game and the possibilities of modding make me very optimistic for the future of this game.
Since I decided to come back, I've been browsing the forums and reading. I've seen a lot of conversation and argument about how to promote the game and to improve the community. I've also seen a lot of infighting.
I have a proposal to help reinvigorate the community and bring more interest to the game. But first I want to say a little about myself so you can understand where I am coming from.
I started playing WC2 when I was 7 years old(I'm in my 30's now), my oldest brother showed it to me and I immediately fell in love with it. I played it on and off for a few years until I found BNET, which was probably one of the funnest times of my life. I pretty quickly joined a BGH clan on USWest called Indepth Insanity [II], which specialized in BGH2HF. I played on USWest on and off until the player base slowly began to dwindle, which can be attributed in large part to the release of WC3. I resisted the change and stayed on USWest for as long as I could but eventually decided to move to USEast, along with many other players who chose to stick around. For the next 10 years I played mostly under the name DaMa(on USEast and RU).
Prior to the death of BNET I joined a 3-man clan called Ax] which became the best BGH N/A clan on USEast of the time, despite the fact that our one clan rule was: always play humans. If my memory serves me, it was aound this time that I noticed chat bots promoting War2RU and I became friends with Burnt who was a fellow USWest native. Burnt encouraged me to join War2RU to help preserve the commnity because BNET's days were numbered.
I joined War2RU and eventually USEast died as well, although it took much longer compared to USWest. Ultimately, anyone who continued to play War2 online moved to RU. I played on RU off and on for a several years until I reached a point where I couldn't justify spending the time on the game anymore, I became jaded with the state of the community. Logging in every day to find only GoW and Mini Chop being hosted is not fun for a lot of people. And the atrocious behavior from some of the veteran players - even for someone as seasoned as me - was no longer tolerable.
I've always respected the BNE community even though I never considered myself part of it. And there is something to be said about hardcore GoW players keeping a certain amount of life in this game. Unfortunately what I have seen take place over the years has been what I consider a slow de-evolution. The BNE community which included GoW players has really just been the GoW community for many years now. And the Custom community followed in the same path with Chop. Now what do we have? We have the GoW/Chop community. Is that what people want? The GoW/Chop community?
I'm not going to shit on GoW players or Chop players. Those are both great maps and many great players of the past and present play both. That's not the issue.
The problem with the community is the same problem that War2 has always had: toxic elitism. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. It's bad for the game, it's bad for the community and it's a turn off for new players. I've seen so many new players come and go because they didn't have anyone to teach them how to play and they were treated like shit. I've been gone for something like 10 years and I come back to people being rude and banning others because they suck. More of the same. Does that create a good environment for growth? The answer is no.
If there is truly a desire for this community to grow and to attract new players - and old players - then it needs to be a friendly environment that is inviting to new players and old players alike.
Regardless of how loud one small group of people is, the truth is that so many players have left this game because there is no variety. And stating the obvious: this game is old as fuck. That already makes it challenging enough.
With all that being said, I would like to say again that I am extremely impressed with the progress that I see happening in the game and the community. Some of the mods that have been made to the game are a dream come true. And despite the stagnant state of the community and gameplay, there is a lot of promise.
I consider War2 to be a huge part of what shaped me in my early years. I love this game and I look back on the times I had with many of you fondly. There is no reason why War2 can't be preserved for another 10-20 years if people really want it to. If I'm going to play this game, I want it to be fun and I want others to have fun.
So what do I propose? I am starting a little project to help promote more variety and a friendly gaming atmosphere. This isn't just for Custom players but for anyone who likes variety in their gameplay. Anyone who is interested in being a part of the project can message me here or on the Discord(link below). I am currently working on compiling a list of players who enjoy custom maps, which isn't necessarily limited to only custom players but can include players who enjoy variety(i.e. any BNE/Classic other than GoW) and when published it may include a small bio on each player.
THIS PROJECT IS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF CREATION. I WELCOME INPUT AND IDEAS. WAR2 IS OLDER THAN DINOSAURS, I DON'T EXPECT THIS PROJECT TO CULMINATE OVER NIGHT.
WHAT DO I WANT / HOPE TO GET FROM THE COMMUNITY?: Collaboration, cooperation, assistance
WHAT DO I WANT FROM THE ADMINS HERE ON WAR2RU?: STICKY THIS SHIT. WE NEED OPEN DISCUSSION. PEOPLE NEED TO SEE IT.
Edit: After some thought and a little more research I am exploring the possibility of this becoming a cross server/community project(thanks for the suggestion @Rareskills).
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My YouTube channel which I plan to utilize to promote the community: http://www.youtube.com/user/War2Custom (http://www.youtube.com/user/War2Custom)
New Discord I am building specifically for Project W2C: https://discord.gg/G8d6yz7K (https://discord.gg/G8d6yz7K)
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Reference Threads / Messages:
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5579.0.html (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5579.0.html)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6747.0.html (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6747.0.html)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6390.msg96893.html#msg96893 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,6390.msg96893.html#msg96893)
https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5710.msg90066.html#msg90066 (https://forum.war2.ru/index.php/topic,5710.msg90066.html#msg90066)
This is the mentality as to why it won't work. The elitist's are fucking assholes (see equinox). You call them out and they get "permaban" butthurt. Grown crybaby ass men. It's sad really. All that really needs to happen is mother fuckers just be nice to each other and help each other learn.
I wish people played more maps, variety..you see me online im playing classic and differnet maps versus the same recycled ones. I hope more people have an open mind
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if u want mods we have many new inventions and tools now (especially in last 1-2 years)
also there is open source codes on my github for all custom campanigns and war2mod
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if u want mods we have many new inventions and tools now (especially in last 1-2 years)
also there is open source codes on my github for all custom campanigns and war2mod
Thank you for your contribution to the game. Your work is something I always hoped could be accomplished. You are pretty much who I wanted to be in-a-nutshell when I was a little kid. I always loved map editing, but I have zero programming/coding experience.
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I would caution that there is already a "variety" project in both what babyshark is doing on USA server and what Trogallart is doing on GOG.....
If you want a real evolution, combine these and bring the communities together. If you just split off another segment you not achieve what your vision is
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I would caution that there is already a "variety" project in both what babyshark is doing on USA server and what Trogallart is doing on GOG.....
If you want a real evolution, combine these and bring the communities together. If you just split off another segment you not achieve what your vision is
I am aware of the USA server but I was under the impression that there wasn't a lot going on there and that it was more of an attempt at an alternative to RU. I could easily be wrong. I will look into this more.
I am unaware of a GOG project. I will look into this as well.
Thank you for the input @Rareskills
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Check out their discords
https://discord.gg/G6ffUbtKVg
https://discord.gg/4w5dvHzB
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The best thing should be bring people who only play US and GOG to Ru server. Maybe check with their communities what is needed from it?
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Clan DW welcomed all new players, played games with everyone, and played many different maps. Unfortunately (b/c he is gone), that was ran by Burnt... Get him back and motivated and that'll be a huge plus to your project. Also, there you have it, copy his model. A clan of new players or players who will play with anyone. I think a lot of DWs went to USA actually. I may be wrong.
I train any new players I see and ask them if they plan on playing this game for a bit or just randomly here and there throughout the year typically. I tell them to msg me the next day to play more or get games, but most do not. I spend at least an hour teaching and talking to them. To see it go nowhere does affect my future motivations though.
Only a few new players have stuck. We had a top SC player who got good real fast and kept getting banned for being a smurf (EQ). I taught him but it didn't take a ton of effort due to the similarities in the games. He got tired of the community and quit too. TheOneCrow I think? I taught ForTheKing I think was his name. He may smurf now, but he played a lot and was getting a hang of it. The smurf king, Bloody, at an early point. Momo, I think he plays on USA, and 1 other, I forget.
I would also urge new people to NOT smurf. I think that really hurts their chances of playing games.
A TRAINING MODE NEEDS TO BE MADE!! (ie- infinite timeouts to explain- resources reset for teaching different/new spots in the same game- unit resets, etc) Very difficult to show things with the correct timing when you are building and typing.
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Clan DW welcomed all new players, played games with everyone, and played many different maps. Unfortunately (b/c he is gone), that was ran by Burnt... Get him back and motivated and that'll be a huge plus to your project. Also, there you have it, copy his model. A clan of new players or players who will play with anyone. I think a lot of DWs went to USA actually. I may be wrong.
I train any new players I see and ask them if they plan on playing this game for a bit or just randomly here and there throughout the year typically. I tell them to msg me the next day to play more or get games, but most do not. I spend at least an hour teaching and talking to them. To see it go nowhere does affect my future motivations though.
Only a few new players have stuck. We had a top SC player who got good real fast and kept getting banned for being a smurf (EQ). I taught him but it didn't take a ton of effort due to the similarities in the games. He got tired of the community and quit too. TheOneCrow I think? I taught ForTheKing I think was his name. He may smurf now, but he played a lot and was getting a hang of it. The smurf king, Bloody, at an early point. Momo, I think he plays on USA, and 1 other, I forget.
I would also urge new people to NOT smurf. I think that really hurts their chances of playing games.
A TRAINING MODE NEEDS TO BE MADE!! (ie- infinite timeouts to explain- resources reset for teaching different/new spots in the same game- unit resets, etc) Very difficult to show things with the correct timing when you are building and typing.
Thanks for your input @Harrywangs
The clan model definitely worked in the past. Being part of a group is fun.
I've always enjoyed teaching people the game, and more specifically the customs that I excel at. I think it does a lot to encourage people to stick around.
I think training mode is an interesting idea. I can see OBS being super useful but maybe there could be an additional mode. @Mistral might have some insight on this.
Big customs are really good for training because you start out with max resources in a lot of them. Learning to progress without high resources is important though if you want to play classics and BNE.
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Most new people who log in just want to muck around for a few hours and then never come back, they are not interested in becoming good players.
Ofcourse good players are not going to want to ally people who have played for 2 hours
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Most new people who log in just want to muck around for a few hours and then never come back, they are not interested in becoming good players.
Ofcourse good players are not going to want to ally people who have played for 2 hours
I don't know that your first statement is true.
And I definitely don't think your second statement is true. Maybe it's true in GoW.
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Most new people who log in just want to muck around for a few hours and then never come back, they are not interested in becoming good players.
Ofcourse good players are not going to want to ally people who have played for 2 hours
I don't know that your first statement is true.
And I definitely don't think your second statement is true. Maybe it's true in GoW.
Then you obviously have no sense of reality
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Mistral delete my message for no reason.
I am Equinox.
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if you really Equinox then write from your real acc
why create 10000 billion new cursed smurfs
also you writed inexplicable insults about good members of our community, which is real Equinox would never do, as everyone knows he is a good guy, not someone like you who going insulting everything for no reason
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if you really Equinox then write from your real acc
why create 10000 billion new cursed smurfs
also you writed inexplicable insults about good members of our community, which is real Equinox would never do, as everyone knows he is a good guy, not someone like you who going insulting everything for no reason
1: I got 2 accounts on this forum, Nox and BGN, and i just created BGN today, not 10000 billions like you try to pretend.
2: I cant use Nox account cuz i dont have the password anymore and i dont have the e-mail either.
3: Everyone know who is BGN, BGN mean '' Big great Nox '' It's not a smurf, and since when do you cares about smurfs, this server is compose of 60% smurfs.
4: Im not the one who talk about suppose ''good'' members of our community, harrywang is the one talking about me for no reason, read above your post.
5: You have never like me, dont act like you do.
6: Remove that approval moderation on my posts, what the heck is this.
7: Now i must re-write my post for Adam, what a waste of time because of you, thank you very much.
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1) you create 1 today then you create another 100 tommorow
2) also about Nox acc if you really fucked up so much as forgetting password and even email too, you could have just asked for pw reset, just needs to prove you real Eq in discord and we can just restore your real acc
3) first time hear BGN or semthing, not everyone knows those
4) harrywang is good guy, why you shit talk so much about him
5) everyone liking real Eq
6) approval working for all new accounts who have less than 2 posts
7) ye sure have a nice day
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1) you create 1 today then you create another 100 tommorow
2) also about Nox acc if you really fucked up so much as forgetting password and even email too, you could have just asked for pw reset, just needs to prove you real Eq in discord and we can just restore your real acc
3) first time hear BGN or semthing, not everyone knows those
4) harrywang is good guy, why you shit talk so much about him
5) everyone liking real Eq
6) approval working for all new accounts who have less than 2 posts
7) ye sure have a nice day
1: ??? What ???
2: Ive already done that with fois on discord, seem like he forgot, im just tire of running, i dont cares anymore.
3: Sure it's first time you eard that, we cant barely see you on the game, how would you know im Big Great Nox.
4: HarryWangs talkshit on me for no reason and mute me on channel games because he dont like the fact i talk about his hackers friends.
5: Ok now your clearly trolling me.
6: ok, so now i got 2, should not happen again.
7: Thank you very much, you too.
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Most new people who log in just want to muck around for a few hours and then never come back, they are not interested in becoming good players.
Ofcourse good players are not going to want to ally people who have played for 2 hours
I don't know that your first statement is true.
And I definitely don't think your second statement is true. Maybe it's true in GoW.
Hey wassup Adam, Im Equinox!
I got a question for you, do you remember a week ago when you came back to the game and you ask everyone on channel how to know whos players connected on the game?
Im sure you do, because no one answer you, except 2 guys, one tell you, '' Your mom '' and someone else tell you ./CON.
You remember that bro, you remember Equinox was the one to help you and tell you ./CON.
Im sure you do!
Listen, HarryWangs is a troll and a hater, like 90% of this server actually, he hate me because i said truth about his hacking friends, and since he host tournament and i said he finnance hackers, hes mad at me and try to talktrash on me, he also love to abuse of his power and mute me on game channel for no reason. Most of peoples here are trolls, hackers and liars, they are all mad against me, cuz i have been the most dedicated players on the server for the last 20 years, helping everyone, streaming everyday, hosting tournament all the time, there only one person i can consider dedicated as me and its burnt, other than that, no one even close to us... It's true in the past i was pretty much love by the community, but one day, i realize they were mostly all hacking, cheating, swapping account, abbusing the ladder, everything you can imagine, it's probably have been done.. So when i realize that, i speak the truth, and since then, they all get over me, they form secret group trolling me, saying lie, trying to destroy my reputation etc.
Shotgun is right, no one love to play with noobs when your pro like us, actually even the good/average players dont wanna play with noobs, no actually, they dont cares to play in a game with noobs, untill they dont ally them, untill peoples like me and shotgun must ally them, but if me and shotgun want to ally eachothers, they gonna leave bro, and they gonna let noobs alone, and there will be no games at all. Not only they gonna leave, but they would probably host their own game and stacked the teams in their favor. Or the rest will be smarter, they will make private games, so you cant join at all because you dont know the password. But you know what, even if it's true, Harrywangs liying to you, everyone know, especially me, Equinox, that i ally the noobs all the time, it mean 99% of the time, yes, thats how good i am brotha... 99% of the time, i take noobs in my teams, cuz 90% of the server are noobs and the other 10% that can reach my level will be put in the other team, because i cant ally them anyway, peoples will cry, Harrywangs know that, actually everyone know that, but they lie, they will not tell you truth, they want to talktrash and make me look bad, they always have does it.. HarryWangs act like a good guy, trying to protect the noobs, but the reality, is, harrywangs probably the first one to quit the game and leave you alone.. Sure i boot some peoples sometime, it's true, but i dont boot them because they are noobs, i boot them because they are trolls, alot of these peoples are just here to ruin others experience.. Some will join your game and will go straight up to mid, build a bunch of towers and literally play like a 5 years old child, and they will do that over, over and over again untill you realize you are trolled.. Some others will join your games, and will tell everyone starting position at beginning of the games, some other will join your games and will start to lag for 20 minutes making the game unplayable for everyone. Ive played this game for 25 years, i got a pretty good six sens for that kind of peoples.. It's pretty easy for me to know who will ruin our games or who will respect it... When i see someone like you on channel asking for help, i dont hesitate, and i help them, exactly what i did with you, you remember? But most of the time, its not the case, sadly.. Harrywangs know that too, but Harrywangs his a liar, an hypocrite and hes also a troll.. Hes there trying to act like i dont love noobs, when actually im the one that ally them the most on the server, for year, years and years.. And most of them, dint even respect me, even if i ally them, while others will not ally them at all, you know what they do to thanks me, they came on my stream and troll me, or they goes on u8 stream to talktrash about me, these peoples dont even have respect. Like i said, it's not hard for me to ally noobs all the time, because 90% for me are all noobs. These peoples are mad, cuz they all hacks or trolls, and since i said the truth about their favorite player U8, the biggest hacker of the server, they hate me, they feel more attach to him, because they probably also hacks too, so, hackers hang with hackers, and hackers hate peoples who speak truth. Maybe it's just cooler to the hang with the gang too, i doubt they all hack, but they all want to hang with the gang. I wish you dont have to realize this by yourself, but you will clearly do, but like all of em, you will probably hang with the hackers, because its easier to hang with the gang and do like nothing happen, instead to hang with the real dedicate pro players like me. Best of the world, Have fun brotha.
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instead to hang with the real dedicate pro players like me. Best of the world, Have fun brotha.
That's hella real bro. Word up.
Na seriously though, I'm not sure what your post is even about or what it has to do with making the community more fun.
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instead to hang with the real dedicate pro players like me. Best of the world, Have fun brotha.
That's hella real bro. Word up.
Na seriously though, I'm not sure what your post is even about or what it has to do with making the community more fun.
Oh i guess talking about me the way Harry did is way more fun and productive right? Now at least you know the truth, Thanks for your input bro!
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Most new people who log in just want to muck around for a few hours and then never come back, they are not interested in becoming good players.
Ofcourse good players are not going to want to ally people who have played for 2 hours
I don't know that your first statement is true.
And I definitely don't think your second statement is true. Maybe it's true in GoW.
To stay in server person must Play more than 1 game per month, even for pballs new person will not understand it, it can work only if someone played in past and he understand gameplay/rules of game
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"We had a top SC player who got good real fast and kept getting banned for being a smurf (EQ)."
This is the only thing I said with your name in it. It was just the truth is all. Not shit talking.
For the 80th time, I did not do anything pertaining to you and the channel. I simply squelched you to myself. /squelch equinox. Go ask Tora for the logs, for the 80th time.
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"We had a top SC player who got good real fast and kept getting banned for being a smurf (EQ)."
This is the only thing I said with your name in it. It was just the truth is all. Not shit talking.
For the 80th time, I did not do anything pertaining to you and the channel. I simply squelched you to myself. /squelch equinox. Go ask Tora for the logs, for the 80th time.
A top player SC getting ban by me, oh really, who?? Whats the name?
And for the 80th times, stop lie, you clearly did, and if you dint then tell tora to watch the logs and find out who DID and tell me, but we both know nobody will check, because you did it!
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Already told you above. "The_0ne_Cr0w" IT IS.
EQ find out the answer yourself or shut the fuck up about it already. Go fucking ask him you moron. Be an adult. You have absolutely no motivation to find out the answer to your random speculation when the answer is something that can simply be found out. You just want to bitch to bitch.
Stop being a dramatic woman and find the facts. It's not that fucking hard man. You make simple things so complicated and annoying for everyone. Tora telling me the answer and then me telling you will do absolutely nothing, as you will continue to deny. You know this. We both know this. Why the hell would you even say it?
Next time, I will ask for the access, ask what the command even is, and then ban your ass and tell you to your face. I might even hold my own tournament again just for that. Then you can be right for once. You are like a little kid sometimes, jesus christ. You are not as smart as you think.
Tora- you should remove all of these unrelated posts- it is taking away from the original post @~ToRa~
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Already told you above. TheOneCrow I believe it was.
EQ find out the answer yourself or shut the fuck up about it already. Go fucking ask him you moron. Be an adult. You have absolutely no motivation to find out the answer to your random speculation when the answer is something that can simply be found out. You just want to bitch to bitch.
Stop being a dramatic woman and find the facts. It's not that fucking hard man. You make simple things so complicated and annoying for everyone. Tora telling me the answer and then me telling you will do absolutely nothing, as you will continue to deny. You know this. We both know this. Why the hell would you even say it?
Next time, I will ask for the access, ask what the command even is, and then ban your ass and tell you to your face. I might even hold my own tournament again just for that. Then you can be right for once. You are like a little kid sometimes, jesus christ. You are not as smart as you think.
Tora- you should remove all of these unrelated posts- it is taking away from the original post
You believe? ok lol.
Anyway no one need answer, you talk about me, i answer to it, thats all, for the truth, we both know it, thats what matter.
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Dude what the heck is this in my thread?
:poo:
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lol
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This is reason why Trogallart/Cel is in GOG not in RU
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I am not an English speaker, I write with big mistakes. Excuse me.
Good afternoon, Adam!
It is always good when good, active people appear in the community, ready to work to improve the project and the community.
Unfortunately, such initiatives sometimes end unsuccessfully: alas, the example of BabyShark and Cel is quite indicative. By the way, you are right, sometimes (even often) we are to blame for these failures. And based on the given circumstances and circumstances, it is difficult to do anything about it.
Around 2019, we (in the Russian-speaking part of the community) created our own comfortable, developing movement. Much effort has been directed and concentrated, resulting in gradual improvements for the online community, and, of course, for fans of custom campaigns. There are indeed successful projects, and many more are in development.
This became possible, largely thanks to the friendly team and common goals! Last but not least is the fact that we are all Russian speakers, and it’s easy for us to communicate with each other.
If suddenly a place appears in the English-speaking environment where interested fans of the second Warcraft will intensively create something for the benefit of Warcraft 2, we promise help and assistance.
Unfortunately, it will be difficult for us to completely join the movement due to the language barrier. For this, we also ask you to forgive us all: we have many people who are completely at odds with English or any other language. This is simply difficult for us.
But we can assure you for sure that we are interested in collaborating with active people from the English-speaking community! Because our goal is to comprehensively improve Warcraft 2.
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we "lost" BS and Cel cause community let toxic people to offend instead ban them
you made your rebalance thing without any speak with community
warcraft 2 should have one version instead have normal and "rebalance"
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Unfortunately, there is always a whole bunch of nuances that no one usually thinks about. But all this is in the past.
Regarding “rebalance” - it is optional, no one forbids you to play classics. Classic, by the way, is the default. There was a discussion with the community, no need to lie.
Well, you can continue to play in a narrow circle of people with “2.5 diggers”, or you can try to develop the game.
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Rebalance is fine how it is. Is not default and easy to set. Like those triggers map.
I do not like but this not impact me as I can just host classic …same for that ogre head thing. It’s just more options to those who wanna play those mods. Don’t see any problem.
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I see you still got no idea how should looks a normal community, "i want i will make it"
"We talk about changes we made them to balance game so maybe it can bring new people"
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If suddenly a place appears in the English-speaking environment where interested fans of the second Warcraft will intensively create something for the benefit of Warcraft 2, we promise help and assistance.
But we can assure you for sure that we are interested in collaborating with active people from the English-speaking community! Because our goal is to comprehensively improve Warcraft 2.
Thank you very much for your reply. I will definitely make a note of this and I may contact you in the future.
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The most underrated feature of this game is /squelch. I do it to Van all of the time. I'm personally tired of engaging in such arguments. That was one of the reasons BS left for sure. I recall some of the chats I've seen. He was pretty brutal. You can't control what people say but what you can control is how you handle it. Argue and get mad at the people/game or you can avoid it and play with people you can play with. The more you play, the better you get and the more people you meet.
Everyone doesn't need to be friends. It would be nice, but I've never seen or heard of a game where that is the situation. Ours is unique in terms of the smaller community, I get that. I'll go back to what I've said for years and years. Host your own games. Be in control of you. Everyone doesn't need to play in every game hosted or with the top players. I get obs'd when the top people are playing sometimes, and I accept it.
The biggest reason for shit talking is competition due to skill gaps. Relate this to life. If you are the worst worker at a job, you are probably going to get fired. If you are the worst player for a sports team, you will get dropped. If you are a bad bf/gf, you will get dumped, if you are a terrible student in a school project group, people will dislike you and not want to be with you again. This is life people and all of these examples are relative. I've seen noob games where people do the same as the higher skilled games.
If you are the "worst", don't take it personally. This is based on skill, not necessarily who you are as a person. (Everything I say is a generalization) If you suck and people give you shit, be in control of you. You can say things like, I'm sorry man, I'm really trying. What could I have done better? I've said that to someone before who was very mean to me and that stopped it believe it or not.
Let's translate this to real life, put 50 people together in a room/community/whatever. Do they all get along? Put 20 people together, do they all get along? This is life people, not Mr. Rodgers Neighborhood. Handle this like you would handle life.
I'm 100% for the effort of inclusion but I do still want to play my competitive games, or I wouldn't play. That is for many other people as well.
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there is nice plugin for mute, you muted someone, you will not see message from that person anymore :beam:
Noone is should be mad that someone bad in game, if a guy
- can write/read message
-is not troll
- play 1000 games and he still build something between hall - gold mine (example)